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Man...I really curious and excited in thinking about how Genndy ties everything up.
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Tunicate posted:Neat little subtle thing - the dagger ramps up with repeated strikes against something. Just one or two taps isn't that much of a bang. Yeah I know, but that's my point. Jack would never really have to enter a building with enemies waiting for him again, like in the Shinobi vs. Samurai fight. Just walk up to any wall, do a little rendition of "In the Air Tonight", and Blamo! No more Roobanguy posted:he let go of the knife when he fell into the river, so i have a feeling we won't be seeing it again. Oh he did? Well that probably solves that.
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Mar 20, 2017 18:02
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He would also never just blow up a building in case there's an ambush.
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Mar 20, 2017 18:10
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Crain posted:the Shinobi vs. Samurai fight Still hands down my favourite straight up fight. God, the visuals in that; the ever shifting shadows and time always on the edge of running out as the sun sets 
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Mar 20, 2017 18:18
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Turtlicious posted:He would also never just blow up a building in case there's an ambush. Sure, not just on an off chance. That's why I mentioned the Shinobi fight, he knew the dude was in there explicitly for an advantage. Also he kinda literally did just blow up a building to avoid an ambush in the last episode. It's just that the ambush had already been sprung.
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Mar 20, 2017 18:45
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TV Zombie posted:Man...I really curious and excited in thinking about how Genndy ties everything up. There is a zero percent chance that Jack makes it out alive. Maybe, Ashi eventually takes up his magic sword and steps forth to oppose or maybe time gets set right. But I cannot see this going any other way for Jack.
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Mar 20, 2017 18:45
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Sorry, phone posting. Jack would never blow up a building without knowing what is inside specifically.
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Mar 20, 2017 18:50
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A part of me wants to believe Jack is gonna have Aku to send him back in time because Aku is all "UGH FINE JUST END ME ALREADY I'M SO TIRED OF THIS."
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Mar 20, 2017 18:53
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oh yes oh god yes form the head FORM THE HEAD unghhhh...
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IronSaber posted:A part of me wants to believe Jack is gonna have Aku to send him back in time because Aku is all "UGH FINE JUST END ME ALREADY I'M SO TIRED OF THIS." A case of mutual destruction back at the beginning?
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Mar 20, 2017 18:59
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Dazerbeams posted:A case of mutual destruction back at the beginning? Something like that. In any case, idle speculation is the only thing keeping me from going crazy waiting for the next episode.
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Mar 20, 2017 19:18
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Mr. Fowl posted:The wolf was just meant to parallel his situation. Aside from being a metaphor, I think the reason Jack didn't swat the firefly was pretty simple, if you swat a firefly a lot of the time it'll glow after it dies. Better, more tactical decision by Jack is to pray that it stops glowing or that it flies away rather than swatting it and definitely getting glowing bug juice right on his body.
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Mar 20, 2017 19:37
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IronSaber posted:A part of me wants to believe Jack is gonna have Aku to send him back in time because Aku is all "UGH FINE JUST END ME ALREADY I'M SO TIRED OF THIS." I kind of want the opposite, where Jack just has to live in a post-Aku hellscape and figure out where to go from here like everyone else. Aku's damage can't be undone. I don't mind if they don't do that, but it'd be interesting.
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Mar 20, 2017 20:03
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I kind of want Jack to be returned to a point in time just before he has his first confrontation with Aku and then have the show cut out. I don't want to see Aku be destroyed, but I also don't think Jack can get too much closure without at least implying he will be victorious.
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Crain posted:Also he kinda literally did just blow up a building to avoid an ambush in the last episode. It's just that the ambush had already been sprung. Well sure, but he literally JUST got done getting stabbed in the abdomen by one of the same girls who had just beaten him to a bloody pulp minutes before. I'm guessing he might have been a wee bit more desperate here than he otherwise would have been under normal circumstances. ZorajitZorajit posted:There is a zero percent chance that Jack makes it out alive. Maybe, Ashi eventually takes up his magic sword and steps forth to oppose or maybe time gets set right. But I cannot see this going any other way for Jack. What makes you say that? Just out of curiosity?
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Mar 20, 2017 20:29
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 Thought this was a really interesting interpretation of the wolf
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Mar 20, 2017 22:22
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Yeah in a world where reboots are committing character assassination left & right, its a blessing to see this show. The first two episodes had me riveted, I would be kind of blown away if they take a dive. Genuinely wishing for Jack and the wolf to become homies. We don't need an incessant death march into sadness every second of the show, give him something to bond with and maybe not have every episode be him going like totally insane. and then kill it 
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Mar 20, 2017 22:34
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Bust Rodd posted:Genuinely wishing for Jack and the wolf to become homies. We don't need an incessant death march into sadness every second of the show, give him something to bond with and maybe not have every episode be him going like totally insane.
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Mar 20, 2017 22:56
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I'm half sure the wolf is Jack's sword.
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JT Jag posted:Pretty sure the wolf is dead, man. The wolf is just as alive as jack.
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Mar 20, 2017 23:33
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I'm really glad that they shown restraint when making this. They could have gone nuts since it was on adult swim and added considerably more blood or other "adult" subject matter. Instead, no swearing. Only the bad guys even say the word die or death and even then it's quite sparingly. Jack doesn't even mention the word suicide( though we all know that's what he's thinking of). I'm especially glad with the blood. There really wasn't that much, just a quick slice of the neck and a small pool. It's still hits you like a ton of bricks. The restraint actually enhances the effect, in my opinion.
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Monaghan posted:I'm really glad that they shown restraint when making this. They could have gone nuts since it was on adult swim and added considerably more blood or other "adult" subject matter. Instead, no swearing. Only the bad guys even say the word die or death and even then it's quite sparingly. Jack doesn't even mention the word suicide( though we all know that's what he's thinking of). I'm especially glad with the blood. There really wasn't that much, just a quick slice of the neck and a small pool. It's still hits you like a ton of bricks. The restraint actually enhances the effect, in my opinion. Yeah. I remember being nervous after seeing some of the advertisements (and listening to my mother whining for several hours) that Jack would go full M FOR MATURE,and it hasn't. Sure,I wish there was a tad less music,but otherwise it's been a blast so far.
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Jesus loving christ this episode. The instant his slash connected with the Daughter attacking him, my hand went straight to my mouth and I muttered, "Jack, NO." The first time this show's shown any major amount of blood, and it was because Jack slit a teenaged assassin's throat. Just... Jesus loving christ. That's a hell of a way to clear that hurdle. e: The worst part was the feeling of dread after his "just nuts and bolts" line. I knew it was coming up, I just didn't know if they'd have the guts to go through with it. Wow.
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Mar 21, 2017 01:44
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Seriously, for anyone who didn't watch the original series, it's hard to emphasize how much of an incredible pivot that was. A bright, heroic character we all grew up with, who 50 years ago (his time) would've turned all the daughters against Aku in one episode's worth of time and saved them, just slashed one of them across the throat after barely scraping together an escape. The first real human-on-human kill we see on the show, and it's a girl probably half his (frozen) age. Fffffffffffffuck.
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That's why I think the wolf is more of the ideal we've had of Jack up until now. The Noble Warrior Hero, butchers a brainwashed girl. Something he can't undo even if he could return to the past, because she's gonna be there in his mind now. If he survives, oh god, are the Daughters going to be there now in his breakdowns. But this is also where we have to wonder if Gendy can do it. Because he didn't just make a quick and dirty change where 50 years from now and Jack's just this Grim and Gritty Monster from the Dark Age of Comics. We're seeing that potential decent right here. At its most palpable moment. So far the plot of season 5 seems to be about the Fall of Jack. A situation in which his old self could have avoided this conflict without bloodshed, now likely irreversibly set on a destructive path for Jack whether or not he physically survives. No matter how violent Episode 3 gets, the real damage is going to scar what was his mind before the fight. The part that see's his parents, regular people, even himself, suffering and damning his failure to fulfill his purpose. "I will give you a new choice. Leave here now and live - or stay here and face your destiny." Crabtree fucked around with this message at 02:51 on Mar 21, 2017 |
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Yeah; these girls are pretty deadly, and Jack's at a pretty low point in his career. I don't think he could've really helped it at this point. EDIT: Also, am I the only one who finds the contrast between Aku's buffoonery and how grim and dark everything else is to be hilarious? Like, the daughters are a horrifying metaphor for child abuse, Jack's already got one foot in the grave, the mother of the Daughters of Aku is all dark and evil... ... And then there's this complete moron doing morning stretches, complaining about his vacuumed floors, talking to his shrink about how stressed he is, and talking like an old man with a speech impediment. It's like Aku himself isn't really the major problem in the show; all the REALLY awful stuff seems more like just the natural consequence of having an immortal, all-powerful dictator take over the world. Fionordequester fucked around with this message at 02:53 on Mar 21, 2017 |
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Chokes McGee posted:Seriously, for anyone who didn't watch the original series, it's hard to emphasize how much of an incredible pivot that was. A bright, heroic character we all grew up with, who 50 years ago (his time) would've turned all the daughters against Aku in one episode's worth of time and saved them, just slashed one of them across the throat after barely scraping together an escape. The first real human-on-human kill we see on the show, and it's a girl probably half his (frozen) age. I wouldn't go that far. You do remember how Tale of X9 ended, don't you?
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Fionordequester posted:Yeah; these girls are pretty deadly, and Jack's at a pretty low point in his career. I don't think he could've really helped it at this point. Aku almost seems to have removed himself from being the great shape-shifting Master of Darkness. The tribute and praise annoy him. The doctor's wheeling out their latest toy to eliminate his enemy probably smell of failure before they even clink out of the door. The 50 years of waiting for that final confrontation or victory over the Samurai never happening. Aku's evil without an adversary. A villain that no longer belongs in the story because its moved wildly out of control into something else.
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Aku just wants
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Funky Valentine posted:Aku just wants "oooh and also pick up the EGGSSSS on the way home."
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Crabtree posted:That's why I think the wolf is more of the ideal we've had of Jack up until now. The Noble Warrior Hero, butchers a brainwashed girl. Something he can't undo even if he could return to the past, because she's gonna be there in his mind now. If he survives, oh god, are the Daughters going to be there now in his breakdowns. Yeah that's why I kind of agree with whoever said Jack doesn't leave this show alive. I wouldn't be surprised at all if he dies fighting Aku and Ashi takes up his sword to kill her father, then goes forward as the people's protector in Jack's name. That's it, no getting back, no undoing the damage. Just moving forward.
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You guys are really down on Jack. He's going to get over this, beat Aku, go back in time, and beat Aku again. It'll be great.
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Mar 21, 2017 04:07
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Aku will beat Jack, but then bring him back because his victory will be meaningless without the FOOLISH SAMURAI
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Mar 21, 2017 04:17
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Aku shows up outside whevere JAck's hiding out with a boombox.
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Mar 21, 2017 04:18
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I don't think the series is going to be "Breaking Bad but with swords" dark, but things do seem building up to some sort of bittersweet ending. I'm thinking either Jack and Aku mutually destroy each other and/or Jack never makes it back home. It's funny that the series might have had a happier ending if it ended when it was supposed to years ago. I originally wasn't into the jokes about Jack's guilt being over the death/cancelation of his series, but it was hard not to think of that when Young Jack talked about wanting just an ending, any ending, even suicide. Edit: That said, Aku better be super loving dead by the end of this. People didn't wait over ten years for Jack to not beat Aku. mycot fucked around with this message at 04:25 on Mar 21, 2017 |
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Since we're making bets on what's going to happen: Last episode, Jack jumps through the portal and stabs Aku right in the face, ending their battle once and for all. And after that, he starts to fade away into dust. He was in the future so long that he's a full product of it. Without Aku's evil in the future Jack was flung to, the Jack we know now disappears. Cut to young Jack stepping out of the portal to a futuristic utopia of his home, grown without Aku's influence. His battle is over before it ever begun, and he is home. WHA-CHA!
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Chokes McGee posted:Yeah that's why I kind of agree with whoever said Jack doesn't leave this show alive. I wouldn't be surprised at all if he dies fighting Aku and Ashi takes up his sword to kill her father, then goes forward as the people's protector in Jack's name. That's it, no getting back, no undoing the damage. Just moving forward. I mean in the first series we saw future jack going through the portal, so...
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Mar 21, 2017 04:52
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Lol if you think he's not gonna get back to the past. It's in the song.
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Mar 21, 2017 04:53
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i believe in jack going back to the past.
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Jack will go back to the past, realize the past was lame, and then go back to the sick-rear end future and hang out with Scotsman.
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Funky Valentine posted:Jack will go back to the past, realize the past was lame, and then go back to the sick-rear end future and hang out with Scotsman. Ah, so the plot to Jak and Daxter 2.
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