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In DA2 Legacy, you see an imprint of your father in a rather well done sequence that fleshes out some back story. In Andromeda the illegal ai your dad created shows you a memory where your mother reveals her terminal illness and your father replies "not on my watch". The AI tells you to get more memories and advance as a Pathfinder to learn more.
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I told my therapist in our last session that everything was good and we could move to monthly sessions instead of weekly but GUESS WHAT NAOMI, FREE UP YOUR SCHEDULE FOR A WHILE
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Mar 20, 2017 22:29
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Alain Post posted:I actually liked Zevran the most because he was a loving rear end in a top hat, which is not really a role gay characters are "allowed" to play a lot in fiction. yea I actually think they were very good about avoiding the 'gay killer' trope with Zevran, since usually that stems from 'the killer's pretty much one trait is LOOK HOW GAY HE IS' while Zevran was a pretty fleshed out guy who happened to go both ways and also murder people
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Sombrerotron posted:In these modern, post-20th-century times, there is no appreciable spectrum of quality - everything is either unreservedly good or unreservedly bad, and it is vital that people point out as much as humanly possible which of the two any given object or subject is. Sombrero, you having a good time with the game?
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Nazzadan posted:I'm going off the evidence I've seen in ME:A which is that they portray a trans woman extremely poorly. Like, so poorly they have a spotlight shining down on them and they have TRANS tattoo'd on their forehead ala Leto's Joker. Are you talking about the pilot guy? I've only played as femshep, but are you saying that guy was a ROMANCEABLE character?!?! HAhaha lol, here I was just thinking he was a pretty cool dude. Man, that sucks. Rest in Peace Bioware, I guess. Maybe Spiders' dream of being as good as bioware wasn't ever going to mean they'd rise to a higher quality, but that Bioware would simply sink down to theirs. Technomancer 2 will definitely be as good as a Bioware game, I am assured to say.
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Mar 20, 2017 22:29
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Why is there no Chuck Tingle Mass Effect literature.
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Mar 20, 2017 22:30
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The best thing Andromeda has done is it's let me be upfront with all goons that I actually liked Dragon Age 2. Thank you Andromeda.
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Mar 20, 2017 22:31
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sexpig by night posted:yea I actually think they were very good about avoiding the 'gay killer' trope with Zevran, since usually that stems from 'the killer's pretty much one trait is LOOK HOW GAY HE IS' while Zevran was a pretty fleshed out guy who happened to go both ways and also murder people I think the key for those kinds of characters is that their lack of morality shouldn't come across like it stems from their "perversion" (see: the killers in 007: Diamonds are Forever, or Buffalo Bill in Silence of the Lambs)
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Alain Post posted:I actually liked Zevran the most because he was a loving rear end in a top hat, which is not really a role gay characters are "allowed" to play a lot in fiction. i'll be patheticaly honest. i never got to far into origins. the game play wasn't my thing and i had the console version. i'll say that bioware can be hamfisted with their progressive ideals sometimes, but i don't believe its in bad faith. bioware isn't Paul Feig, they don't use social progressiveness as a blanket to shield themselves criticism and i hope it stays that way.
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Mar 20, 2017 22:31
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Well I think weve said all there is to say about mass effect.
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Alain Post posted:I think the key for those kinds of characters is that their lack of morality shouldn't come across like it stems from their "perversion" yea exactly, when it looks like the train of thought is 'well right obviously someone who's hosed up enough to be gay would be hosed up enough to kill' that's a pretty big problem. When it's 'this guy is hosed up, he's hosed up enough to kill even. Also he likes dick.' you actually have the frame of a real character to work on.
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Mar 20, 2017 22:32
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GET MY BELT SON posted:How to play the different me3 dlcs on the xbone using backward compatibility? If you've already got them, just put in the disk and while it's installing go find it in your games and apps and download everything available. Otherwise just get them through the store I guess?
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Drifter posted:Are you talking about the pilot guy? I've only played as femshep, but are you saying that guy was a ROMANCEABLE character?!?! HAhaha lol, here I was just thinking he was a pretty cool dude. Man, that sucks. Yeah pilot dude was gay-only which is completely fine they just handled it very poorly. His romance arc seemed to be unusually fast, like within 2 times of talking to him with the nice option he drops that his husband is dead and he is single and ready to mingle. But yeah I also agree this sums up almost every romancable Bioware character ever.
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Mar 20, 2017 22:33
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Kirios posted:Friendly reminder that this game is scoring lower than Dragon Age II. DA2's scores were massively inflated by the much stronger publisher/reviewer relationship at the start of the decade. That poo poo would be scoring -7s these days.
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Mar 20, 2017 22:33
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euphronius posted:Well I think weve said all there is to say about mass effect. Mass Effect A dlc will allow you to gently caress an elcor. ...but you can only do it dressed as a cowboy, with assless chaps, top-hat helmet, and a space-lasso.
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Mar 20, 2017 22:34
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I can't wait to put Andromeda on my video game shelf right next to my other favorite Bioware RPG
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Mar 20, 2017 22:34
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You people straight up turned this into the BioWare Social Network forums in here.
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Mar 20, 2017 22:35
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The most offensive thing about the inclusion and depiction of a trans character is that her introduction seems lifted from Technobabylon.
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Mar 20, 2017 22:36
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Slim Killington posted:You people straight up turned this into the BioWare Social Network forums in here. This was Bioware. Bioware did this to us.
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Mar 20, 2017 22:36
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Drifter posted:Mass Effect A dlc will allow you to gently caress an elcor. all is forgiven!
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Mar 20, 2017 22:36
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That many people working on the game for 5 years and this is the result? Development must've been plagued by a Chris Roberts level of management
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Mar 20, 2017 22:36
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I have a confession to make I am actually Stanley Woo
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Mar 20, 2017 22:37
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Please dont make fun of our bad game here is a picture of all the people who made this:
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Oxxidation posted:I don't have a dog in this hunt, but author intent rarely matters as much as audience perception. It doesn't matter what you meant to say if people take it a different way Yeah but I'm only asking because he brought up authorial intent. And then a bunch of people assumed I was talking about the trans character in Andromeda, which I have not even played. I was talking of the cool and good gay people in ME3/DA:I mostly. And then Alain said that Dorian having a genuine real-life type conflict with his family about his sexuality was obvious pandering or whatever and I'm done, back to posting about how I'm really looking forward to playing the Deluxe Edition of Mass Effect: Andromeda on my PS4 later tonight! Arglebargle III posted:How do you have such terrible opinions. EA is paying me to have these terrible opinions. Wait no, hold on, is it really that controversial to say that ME1 was at best a 7/10? The combat is flat-out bad and it's janky as gently caress. I still love it, because I am not a broken person who thinks every game has to be THE BEST or THE WORST thing ever. They're just toys. I don't get mad when I buy a LEGO set that ends up being unfun to build.
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Grey Fox posted:The most offensive thing about the inclusion and depiction of a trans character is that her introduction seems lifted from Technobabylon. Actually I'm pretty offended that I can't tell the trans character that I don't give a poo poo what he identifies as or what pronouns he likes, which is discriminatory against me, so "drat, how am I going to gently caress this thing and not ruin my genitals"
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Mar 20, 2017 22:37
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Nazzadan posted:I have a confession to make This is probably the best place to say who I really am since it'd get buried in minutes but I've already gotten enough death threats for my Zelda review.
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Mar 20, 2017 22:39
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Why did you cut off the "Oh gently caress I left the oven on" option at the bottom?
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Is it me or are the pistols significantly more punchy than the Rifles on this game? Or maybe I havn't gotten a good rifle yet.
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Mar 20, 2017 22:38
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Slim Killington posted:You people straight up turned this into the BioWare Social Network forums in here. There's a pretty good grief support network going on over there for all the jilted Jaal fans (Jaalted?), this thread could take a leaf out of their book tbh
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precision posted:And then Alain said that Dorian having a genuine real-life type conflict with his family about his sexuality was obvious pandering or whatever and I'm done, back to posting about how I'm really looking forward to playing the Deluxe Edition of Mass Effect: Andromeda on my PS4 later tonight! It's not that it's pandering, it's that it's pathetic that that's the best loving thing they can come up with for a gay character. It's exactly like how every gay character in a movie since the 90s had to either get brutally beaten up by bullies or die of AIDS, because, well, geez, that's all we can think of.
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Wait, the Angaran's use thermal clips for their weapons too? What are the actual odds that a species in an entirely different galaxy would develop the exact tech Reapers/Geth inspired?
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Mar 20, 2017 22:40
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precision posted:
Oh man, the combat is the thing I really like. The weapons definately need more oomph, an issue directly inhereted from the older games Shields/armour system where knockback type effects don't work properly while a protective layer is up, but drat do I love airdashing and grabbing people and throwing and charging. It's a superbly mobile scifi superhero fight and I'm having a blast with it.
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Alain Post posted:I'm glad this bad game takes place in a different galaxy, so it doesn't retrospectively taint Mass Effect 3! I hope the next Mass Effect has to move back to the Milky Way to escape the fallout from Andromeda, but mostly I hope they never make another Mass Effect game.
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looks like he is gonna loving shiv her and then proceed eat her organs while she lays dying while he mumbles "i love you".
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Rinkles posted:Sombrero, you having a good time with the game? I'm not cancelling my pre-order, but if there's any other big titles you'd like to play right now and you're not a real ME junkie, I'd hold off for now.
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Arglebargle III posted:Why is there no Chuck Tingle Mass Effect literature. Pounded In The rear end By Bioware By The Lack Of Gay Cat Alien Pounding In Bioware's Mass Effect: Andromeda
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Dapper_Swindler posted:i'll be patheticaly honest. i never got to far into origins. the game play wasn't my thing and i had the console version. Haha no, Bioware was deflecting criticism of ME3 because people must not like gay romance (even though Dragon Age Origins had gay romance, and I think Jade Empire did too.) Nazzadan posted:Yeah pilot dude was gay-only which is completely fine they just handled it very poorly. His romance arc seemed to be unusually fast, like within 2 times of talking to him with the nice option he drops that his husband is dead and he is single and ready to mingle. STEVE!!! had a nice arc if you just were his friend, you helped him get over the death of his husband in a semi-respectful way.
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wait is it true that Jaal really was supposed to be bi and the content was made but got cut out?
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monster on a stick posted:
Maybe I was just TOO nice then. I guess the options were: Mean, Nice, and Nice (gay)
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