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I hope that money won't flow freely between the UK and the EU and they lose all these money laundering schemes that strengthens their financial system artificially: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/mar/20/how-dirty-money-from-russia-flooded-into-the-uk-and-where-it-went?CMP=twt_gu Who am I kidding, everything that regards rich corrupt people will stay the same, only the poor will get hosed
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Hey Euro Goons, can you reassure me that Le Pen probably won't win?
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Hey Euro Goons, can you reassure me that Le Pen probably won't win? Highly likely to make the second round but won't go all the way. As the poster above says she could lose the second round by an awful lot.
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Mar 21, 2017 00:13
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Hey Euro Goons, can you reassure me that Le Pen probably won't win? The real tragedy at this point is that she's going to get pounded into the ground by a neoliberal empty suit because he's going to pick up the very serious right wingers who are rapidly dropping Fillon like a hot potato. But yeah, her ceiling is still lower than Trump's floor ever reached.
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Mar 21, 2017 00:14
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Philippot nodding every time Le Pen says a word is hilarious.
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Mar 21, 2017 00:17
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If Mélanchon started his campaign earlier he would be doing better. He should have started well before the PS primary.
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Thank You very much.
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LemonDrizzle posted:All the polling says she'll lose, and not by a narrow margin. where did I hear this before
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Mar 21, 2017 00:21
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caps on caps on caps posted:where did I hear this before I assume France doesn't have a retarded system like the Electoral College to gently caress everything up.
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Mar 21, 2017 00:22
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caps on caps on caps posted:where did I hear this before Hillarymen were saying Trump would lose by wide margins even when they were polling neck and neck. Le Pen never hit 40% of the vote.
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Like I want to say it's not another Trump situation because it isn't.....and yet. It's less likely to happen for sure but the chance is still greater than zero...
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Mar 21, 2017 00:23
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The national polling for Hillary/Trump was right, the EC hosed it all up.
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Mar 21, 2017 00:24
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julian assflange posted:If Mélanchon started his campaign earlier he would be doing better. He should have started well before the PS primary. ...he did, though I'm saddened by his final statement because I heard something that sounded really bad when taken out of context, when he talked about "rendre la France aux Français" - which obviously meant restoring control to the citizens and not to the Powers That Be, but the wording, ugh
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Mar 21, 2017 00:25
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Oh I thought he was simply holding meetings/events for a while before really declaring
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Mar 21, 2017 00:29
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julian assflange posted:Oh I thought he was simply holding meetings/events for a while before really declaring The movement La France Insoumise started in february of last year, and L'Avenir en Commun was published in its final form in december, well before the PS primary. The online campaign took off in september/october. And so on.
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Mar 21, 2017 00:34
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Flowers For Algeria posted:...he did, though Andreas Papandreou, founder of PASOK, had similarly made a "Greece for the Greeks" statement, so it's not unprecedented as a leftie slogan. It's definitely a wording that has different connotations in today's context than it did in the '80s, however.
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That's clumsy given you could say "to the citizens".
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Cat Mattress posted:That's clumsy given you could say "to the citizens".
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^^^^^^Spend enough time forced to listen to their nonsense, you will realize how it's some kind of genius speech from a wise (wo)man living amongst fools.Shimrra Jamaane posted:Hey Euro Goons, can you reassure me that Le Pen probably won't win? Flowers For Algeria posted:Philippot nodding every time Le Pen says a word is hilarious. * https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwjytrqEBDI Toplowtech fucked around with this message at 06:45 on Mar 21, 2017 |
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caps on caps on caps posted:where did I hear this before Show me your map
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Flowers For Algeria posted:Philippot nodding every time Le Pen says a word is hilarious. I'm glad somebody else noticed! He's like a racist dipping bird.
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Speaking of bad people with wrong opinions, there's a new study. They're looking at links between the muslim faith and a tendancy towards extremism.quote:Létude souligne que 32% des jeunes musulmans ont une vision absolutiste de la religion (ils valident ces deux affirmations : "il ny a quune seule vraie religion", et "la religion a raison contre la science") contre 10.7% du panel de jeunes sélectionnés, et quŕ 33%, ils affichent un degré élevé de tolérance ŕ la violence et ŕ la déviance (trouver acceptable de voler un scooter, tricher, conduire sans permis, agir violemment pour ses idées, dealer, affronter la police ), contre 25% dans le panel et seulement 8% parmi léchantillon représentatif de jeunes Français du męme âge sondés en parallčle par linstitut OpinionWay "The study outlines that 32% of the young muslims have an absolutist(tr?) view of religion. (They agree with both statements: "There's only one true religion" and "religion trumps science") against 10.7% from the study's panel, and 33% have an elevated tolerance towards violence and deviant behavior (stealing, cheating, [..] dealing drugs..) against 25% in the panel and 8% in the representative sample polled by OpinionWay" (The authors insist their sample isn't representative of French youth) quote:Contre toute évidence sociologique, lorigine sociale et le niveau scolaire ne semblent pas contre-balancer leffet de lappartenance religieuse. Autrement dit, quelles que soient ses performances ŕ l'école et la profession de ses parents, un jeune musulman du panel a quatre fois plus de chances quun jeune chrétien dadhérer ŕ des idées radicales. . "Against all sociological logic, social origin and education level don't balance the effect of religious belonging. That is, whatever the academical performance and parent's activity, a young muslim from the sample is 4 times more likely than a christian to adhere to extremist ideas." e: CNRS blog entry (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Toplowtech posted:^^^^^^Spend enough time forced to listen to their nonsense, you will realize how it's some kind of genius speech from a wise (wo)man living amongst fools. "...aux employés de cette administration que le monde entier nous envie, j'ai nommé les PTT" Man, times have changed, and so have the French people's opinion of their administrations. *massive sigh* Flowers For Algeria fucked around with this message at 08:54 on Mar 21, 2017 |
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Méluche's performs really good in debates, or at least he is the only one not stumbling around (Macron, Hamon) or rabidly barking after the EU / the muslims (la marine, of course). And drat, did they dose Fillon on prozac before sending him on stage ? That said, while he did deny being Putin's friend, I would find his line about "redefining/renegociating borders" slightly worrying if I were living in Ukraine or the baltics. And what's this obsession about beeing dragged in NATO's wars ? I'm pretty sure we went into Lybia, Mali and Syria/Iraq without anyone having to invoke article 5.
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Flowers For Algeria posted:"...aux employés de cette administration que le monde entier nous envie, j'ai nommé les PTT" Yeah, after all the medias have been bought by rich guys, they've been bombarded for 40 years with "il y a trop de fonctionnaires" every day non stop. BobMorane posted:That said, while he did deny being Putin's friend, I would find his line about "redefining/renegociating borders" slightly worrying if I were living in Ukraine or the baltics. And what's this obsession about beeing dragged in NATO's wars ? I'm pretty sure we went into Lybia, Mali and Syria/Iraq without anyone having to invoke article 5. The only "Article 5 war" so far has been Afghanistan. Libya (not lybia, lybia are cute little crabs), Mali, and the anti-Daesh operations in Syria and Iraq are technically not NATO operations. Cat Mattress fucked around with this message at 11:31 on Mar 21, 2017 |
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Last night, French media (not the Canard Enchainé, surprisingly) revealed that the minister of the interior had given his two daughter part-time jobs as parliamentary assistants for years, starting when they were 15 and 16. 24 part-time contracts between the two of them, paid 55,000 euros in total. https://twitter.com/bengrosso/status/844144215365959680 He's going to announce his resignation this afternoon.
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GaussianCopula posted:German debt was not wiped out, it was just restructured, mostly because the Western powers had not interest in impoverishing West Germany, their front line against communism, which coincidentally didn't elect politicians whose explicit goal it was to destroy/change the power structure and ideological orthodoxy of NATO. That's what you've been told the whole time. The refusal of the EU to negotiate with the Greek government on debt had nothing to do with anything but ideological hatred towards Syriza from the neoliberal ruling elite. There was no other reason, you disingenious twathead. But I guess it's nice to see you admit the fact now, years down the line.
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Kassad posted:Last night, French media (not the Canard Enchainé, surprisingly) revealed that the minister of the interior had given his two daughter part-time jobs as parliamentary assistants for years, starting when they were 15 and 16. 24 part-time contracts between the two of them, paid 55,000 euros in total. How much is that in Pelenopes
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lollontee posted:That's what you've been told the whole time. The refusal of the EU to negotiate with the Greek government on debt had nothing to do with anything but ideological hatred towards Syriza from the neoliberal ruling elite. There was no other reason, you disingenious twathead. But I guess it's nice to see you admit the fact now, years down the line. I don't see how that would be controversial at all. If they had just concluded the second review as planned in early-mid 2015, they would have gotten some debt restructuring and access to the money faucet that is QE - but Varoufakis and Tsipras ruined it all by being stupid.
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Kassad posted:Last night, French media (not the Canard Enchainé, surprisingly) revealed that the minister of the interior had given his two daughter part-time jobs as parliamentary assistants for years, starting when they were 15 and 16. 24 part-time contracts between the two of them, paid 55,000 euros in total. The PS continues slowly dying both metaphorically and literally (RIP Henri Emmanuelli).
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lollontee posted:The refusal of the EU to negotiate with the Greek government on debt had nothing to do with anything but ideological hatred towards Syriza from the neoliberal ruling elite.
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It's not Fillon money, seems to be approximately the SMIC (total/24/3 summer months) but this practice needs to be stamped out.
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unpacked robinhood posted:How much is that in Pelenopes About 0.07 Penelopes. She was paid 800,000 euros for her "work". julian assflange posted:It's not Fillon money, seems to be approximately the SMIC (total/24/3 summer months) but this practice needs to be stamped out. Yeah. It's about the nepotism, not the money. Kassad fucked around with this message at 14:39 on Mar 21, 2017 |
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Kassad posted:About 0.07 Penelopes.
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julian assflange posted:It's not Fillon money, seems to be approximately the SMIC (total/24/3 summer months) but this practice needs to be stamped out. It's worrying that we needed the main right wing candidate during election time blabbing about work and morality for the whole lovely scheme to be exposed. They probably all hate his guts for indirectly spilling the beans.
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unpacked robinhood posted:How much is that in Pelenopes Slightly below one decipenelope.
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LemonDrizzle posted:All the polling says she'll lose, and not by a narrow margin. 
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unpacked robinhood posted:It's worrying that we needed the main right wing candidate during election time blabbing about work and morality for the whole lovely scheme to be exposed. It's one of many things like it so I'm sure as long as they divert all attention to this it will keep all the other dubious benefits out of the public eye for a while
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LemonDrizzle posted:This is completely incorrect - there was a strong negative public reaction against any suggestion of going easy on Greece in several northern and eastern european countries.
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