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Azuth0667
Sep 20, 2011

By the word of Zoroaster, no business decision is poor when it involves Ahura Mazda.

aniviron posted:

It might be too much for their level designers to handle, I dunno. Let me tell you though, building a dense map is waaaaay more work than building a sparse one.

The story of Alpine peaks.

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Rysithusiku
Nov 10, 2013

Witness the assless man and despair!
All futures point to a world of filled holes.
I was thinking polar highlands.

Azuth0667
Sep 20, 2011

By the word of Zoroaster, no business decision is poor when it involves Ahura Mazda.

Rysithusiku posted:

I was thinking polar highlands.

If you add elevation to a few spots in polar highlands does it make an alpine peaks?

aniviron
Sep 11, 2014

Polar Highlands started out as a rework of Alpine Peaks back when they were still doing those, but when they realized Alpine was unfixably hosed they just called it a new map. Only reason we still have alpine is because of Russ' twitter.

BattleTech
Jun 6, 2010

Is this easy mode?
Fun Shoe
I caved and reinstalled, reading the User Agreement is really amusing. It's just a giant list of things their community has been caught doing.

I'm going to assume I've been removed from WoL for being a year+ inactive, can I get an invite: ion rush

Willfrey
Jul 20, 2007

Why don't the poors simply buy more money?
Fun Shoe

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiS1MW-S4WM

Theres the quickie escort hunch battle. Riyott shows his blue shootin locust skills.


Also if you are on crimson straight attacking on escort push the saddle with everyone every time. The VIP spends a third of the time behind it loving around before it either goes over or goes tunnel

Willfrey fucked around with this message at 02:49 on Mar 21, 2017

armchairyoda
Sep 17, 2008
Melman

Commoners posted:

Yeah, I really, really enjoy urban fights in this game. I think they're really cool, especially when you have guys mixing it up with jumpjets.

tbf, this fucker is a savant with jj's and should never be trusted to give us "muggles" advice as we will always fail.

Great Beer
Jul 5, 2004

Willfrey posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiS1MW-S4WM

Theres the quickie escort hunch battle. Riyott shows his blue shootin locust skills.


Also if you are on crimson straight attacking on escort push the saddle with everyone every time. The VIP spends a third of the time behind it loving around before it either goes over or goes tunnel

Video is private.

Commoners
Apr 25, 2007

Sometimes you reach a stalemate. Sometimes you get magic horses.

armchairyoda posted:

tbf, this fucker is a savant with jj's and should never be trusted to give us "muggles" advice as we will always fail.

Just focus on your broomstick, harry yoda. Catch the snatch.

Skoll
Jul 26, 2013

Oh You'll Love My Toxic Love
Grimey Drawer
The gently caress is a muggle, you goddamn autist?

Hexenritter
May 20, 2001


Skoll posted:

The gently caress is a muggle, you goddamn autist?

The gently caress is an autist, you goddamn muggle?

Willfrey
Jul 20, 2007

Why don't the poors simply buy more money?
Fun Shoe

Great Beer posted:

Video is private.

should be fixed.

armchairyoda
Sep 17, 2008
Melman

Skoll posted:

The gently caress is a muggle, you goddamn autist?

My bad. Trying to stay "hip" with these "swell" kids. I honestly don't know. :v:

Cease to Hope
Dec 12, 2011

armchairyoda posted:

My bad. Trying to stay "hip" with these "swell" kids. I honestly don't know. :v:

don't apologize to skoll, it only encourages him

Skoll
Jul 26, 2013

Oh You'll Love My Toxic Love
Grimey Drawer

Cease to Hope posted:

don't apologize to skoll, it only encourages him

gently caress you, muggle.

sebmojo
Oct 23, 2010


Legit Cyberpunk









Cease to Hope posted:

don't apologize to skoll, it only encourages him

He's one spicy tamale!

Anita Dickinme
Jan 24, 2013


Grimey Drawer

Willfrey posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiS1MW-S4WM

Theres the quickie escort hunch battle. Riyott shows his blue shootin locust skills.

I couldn't shut off my helios quick enough! :gonk:

Mildly disappointed you can't hear my involuntary "oops" after it happened. I may have not hit my p2t.

TjyvTompa
Jun 1, 2001

im gay
Update is out on steam.

Rysithusiku
Nov 10, 2013

Witness the assless man and despair!
All futures point to a world of filled holes.
Assassins are so bad. I've yet to meet one I didn't turn into mech paste.

Commoners
Apr 25, 2007

Sometimes you reach a stalemate. Sometimes you get magic horses.
I've been calling them garbage in the queues and people keep defending them in chat. They are just a cicada that stands upright and has arms. Except it can have a slightly larger engine and jump jets.

Having a slightly larger engine and jump jets is not a good thing, though, because cicadas are already completely loving starved for weight and run hot as balls due to a lack of heat sinks. Having arm weapons also means you can't strip all your armor off your arms while filling all the hard points, which further starves it of tonnage. The cicada doesn't suffer from that.

If you want a mech that plays like the assassin, just play the cicadas. They have better quirks, better hard points, better geometry, actually functional (literal) shield arms, and they don't cost real money.

If you want a retard speed mech with jump jets and is weapon anemic, just go ham on the PHX-3S instead. The assassin is just the worse alternative between those two, and as far as missile carrier butt stabbers go it is going to become triple redundant with the javelin coming out.

Commoners fucked around with this message at 06:17 on Mar 22, 2017

aniviron
Sep 11, 2014

I'm surprised you've been seeing people defending them. I have only seen a few so clearly nobody is buying them, and whenever people say they're bad everyone sorta agrees.

They seem more durable than a Cicada but that's about all I will give them; and that's just because the arms soak a lot of damage, but they also contain a fair amount of the firepower. They seem pretty bad otherwise.

Omar_Comin
Aug 20, 2004
Dark Jedi Carebear
I saw 2 Assassins in the same match!



I think I managed to kill both.

TjyvTompa
Jun 1, 2001

im gay
The only thing good about the Assassin is the animation when it walks sideways, it looks ridiculous, like it's dancing or something.

Slab Squatthrust
Jun 3, 2008

This is mutiny!
The assassin was one of the absolute worst TT mechs as well, I dunno why anyone would use them. They're not even cool looking like the Urbie.

Michaellaneous
Oct 30, 2013

Egdy manbabies?

Oxyclean
Sep 23, 2007


lmao the hero variant is called DarkDeath

TjyvTompa
Jun 1, 2001

im gay

Oxyclean posted:

lmao the hero variant is called DarkDeath

It's so shameful so that this is the only mech that I know off that doesn't show the complete name in the HUD in-game, it's still ASN-DD while other mechs have their unique name like TOP DOG, SCORCH et.c.

Lonjon
Jun 26, 2007

Books are the real treasures of the world!
Fun Shoe
Which is yet another reason to play the Commoners Top Dog 🐕 build. You get that awesome extra name under your main name.

Corn
TOP DOG
BAD COMPANY

Cyrano4747
Sep 25, 2006

Yes, I know I'm old, get off my fucking lawn so I can yell at these clouds.

God I'm seeing a lot of KDK-3(C) today.

PoptartsNinja
May 9, 2008

He is still almost definitely not a spy


Soiled Meat

The Gate posted:

The assassin was one of the absolute worst TT mechs as well, I dunno why anyone would use them. They're not even cool looking like the Urbie.

That's because it was designed to kill the Stinger and the Wasp. It's one of the pseudo- Bug Mechs like the Grasshopper, the Cicada, and the Spider that exist solely to kill 20 ton trash `mechs.

Artificer
Apr 8, 2010

You're going to try ponies and you're. Going. To. LOVE. ME!!

Cyrano4747 posted:

God I'm seeing a lot of KDK-3(C) today.

It isn't even that great of a KDK 3 build.

Cyrano4747
Sep 25, 2006

Yes, I know I'm old, get off my fucking lawn so I can yell at these clouds.

Artificer posted:

It isn't even that great of a KDK 3 build.

Yeah, ditch those ERMLs for more ammo or the big engine.

Cease to Hope
Dec 12, 2011

PoptartsNinja posted:

That's because it was designed to kill the Stinger and the Wasp. It's one of the pseudo- Bug Mechs like the Grasshopper, the Cicada, and the Spider that exist solely to kill 20 ton trash `mechs.

this is one of those fluff/rules conflicts because it's as terrible at hunting bug mechs as it is at everything else in TT

Cyrano4747
Sep 25, 2006

Yes, I know I'm old, get off my fucking lawn so I can yell at these clouds.

They key is that TT had tons of space for mechs that were just plain lovely. There were designs that even in-universe everyone knew were pieces of poo poo and you handed off to your backwater militia or whatever and were only around at all because they could still be produced or there were just a TON of them manufactured back in the day.

It's a bit harder to do that in an online FPS that everyone expects some kind of balance in.

Cease to Hope
Dec 12, 2011
mostly they were just page filler that nobody ever used and rerolled if they popped up on a RAT

Cyrano4747
Sep 25, 2006

Yes, I know I'm old, get off my fucking lawn so I can yell at these clouds.

Cease to Hope posted:

mostly they were just page filler that nobody ever used and rerolled if they popped up on a RAT

Or you've got a GM that will force you to use that poo poo mech you rolled, which can be fun all in its own.

edit: then again my friends and I gave zero fucks about having the proper mini. There was a LOT of "this atlas is really a kodiak" going on at our tables.

Skoll
Jul 26, 2013

Oh You'll Love My Toxic Love
Grimey Drawer
That feeling when :pgi: is so contemptuous of their customers, they even sell them mechs that sucked in TT.

Cyrano4747
Sep 25, 2006

Yes, I know I'm old, get off my fucking lawn so I can yell at these clouds.

Skoll posted:

That feeling when :pgi: is so contemptuous of their customers, they even sell them mechs that sucked in TT.

Frankly I'm just amazed we haven't gotten a wasp or stinger yet. Or both. I mean they were basically the same mech in TT but like that would stop PGI from milking nostalgic nerds for a few more bucks.

Q_res
Oct 29, 2005

We're fucking built for this shit!
I always figured they'd do the Stinger and Wasp as a package deal. Build 1 model, tweak it for the second mech. Then just charge slightly less than you'd pay for 2, acting like they're giving you a big break even though they pretty much only spent resources on one mech.

Kind of surprised it hasn't happened yet.

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PoptartsNinja
May 9, 2008

He is still almost definitely not a spy


Soiled Meat

Cease to Hope posted:

this is one of those fluff/rules conflicts because it's as terrible at hunting bug mechs as it is at everything else in TT

The Spider's the most efficient at the task, but the Assassin is at least capable of it. It's a 7/11/5, which makes it faster than the 6/9/6 Stinger and Wasp, and carries comparable firepower to both of them with an LRM-5 thrown in for long range potshots (an average of 3 damage is still a lot to a stinger or a wasp).

It's complete trash at everything else and a Locust will still probably reliably beat an Assassin, but 1v1 vs. a Stinger or Wasp the Assassin's going to win 65-70% of the time.

Which is sad, but better than nothing. House Marik likes it (but doesn't make it) because their only other option is the Hermes II. :v:

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