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Jiminy Christmas! Shoes! posted:In the not too distant future top prospects are going to quit halfway through the season after they put out enough good tape. This makes sense to me . Don't know why they bother after November. They are risking everything for the school.
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Mar 21, 2017 19:04
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Schools will eventually start yanking scholarships if that happens with enough frequency.
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Mar 21, 2017 19:19
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TBeats posted:Schools will eventually start yanking scholarships if that happens with enough frequency. Oh no not my useless degree
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Mar 21, 2017 19:20
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TBeats posted:Schools will eventually start yanking scholarships if that happens with enough frequency. What would that accomplish . Their season is already over and they probably left the school.
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Mar 21, 2017 19:20
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corn elder is the best funny name but bug howard is probably the best old school throwback nickname. gump hayes is probably going undrafted but that's another good name
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Mar 21, 2017 19:22
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Jiminy Christmas! Shoes! posted:In the not too distant future top prospects are going to quit halfway through the season after they put out enough good tape.
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Mar 21, 2017 19:23
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TBeats posted:Schools will eventually start yanking scholarships if that happens with enough frequency. Whatever kills the NCAA fastest is good in my eyes.
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Mar 21, 2017 19:27
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I can't really fathom a world where the Jaguars pass on Mitchell Trubisky, a funny-named bust that Looks the Part.
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Mar 21, 2017 19:36
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euphronius posted:This makes sense to me . Don't know why they bother after November. They are risking everything for the school. Can't wait to see the top Ohio State prospects clown all over the MAC and the Big10 bottom feeders before getting phantom injuries before the bowl games.
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Mar 21, 2017 19:39
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Jiminy Christmas! Shoes! posted:In the not too distant future top prospects are going to quit halfway through the season after they put out enough good tape. Is this a Mitchell callback
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Mar 21, 2017 20:44
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Chichevache posted:Whatever kills the NCAA fastest is good in my eyes. I'd rather the NFL die, honestly.
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Mar 21, 2017 20:45
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FizFashizzle posted:The jets are going to draft him and he's going to be Bad. Nah, Jets are gonna stick to their guns and hope Christian Hackenburg can suddenly throw an accurate pass. Then next year, when there are actual good QB's to draft and the Jets have the 1st overall pick, they'll take a defense linemen because they haven't "given Hackenburg a chance".
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Mar 21, 2017 20:50
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KIM JONG TRILL posted:I'd rather the NFL die, honestly. At least the nfl pays the players it maims and abuses. 
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Mar 21, 2017 20:58
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Chichevache posted:At least the nfl pays the players it maims and abuses. Why would the NCAA (or any governing body) ever enter into an agreement to pay people who can just be like "gently caress it I'm not gonna." If anything the ability to sit because you'll be making bank next year is a case against paying college athletes.
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Mar 21, 2017 21:18
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Theoretically that applies to the pros as well. I assume your contract is going to wording dealing with that kind of thing.
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Mar 21, 2017 21:22
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CharlestheHammer posted:Theoretically that applies to the pros as well. I guess I wasn't clear in my point. As long as college athletes can sit out games because of the money they will make next year, why would any governing body agree to put a system in place that pays them this year?
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Mar 21, 2017 21:24
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The two players I want the most with the Chiefs 1st round pick are Pat Mahomes or Hassan Reddick
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Mar 21, 2017 21:31
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The NCAA could just put a rule in place that screws college players. Just put in a clause that if you're on scholarship you're required to play all games you're able. It's not like they have any problem exploiting them as is.
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Mar 21, 2017 21:32
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Ches Neckbeard posted:The NCAA could just put a rule in place that screws college players. Just put in a clause that if you're on scholarship you're required to play all games you're able. It's not like they have any problem exploiting them as is. or what, they lose their scholarship? This doesn't really address the "problem" of players deciding to sit out once they think they've shown enough to be drafted.
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Mar 21, 2017 21:32
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Ches Neckbeard posted:The NCAA could just put a rule in place that screws college players. Just put in a clause that if you're on scholarship you're required to play all games you're able. It's not like they have any problem exploiting them as is. How would you enforce that?
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Mar 21, 2017 21:33
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TBeats posted:How would you enforce that? I mean, the obvious answer is that you can't, but there's a solid chance it would gently caress with players' draft stock due to "character concerns"
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Mar 21, 2017 21:35
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College athletes sitting out games is, in my opinion, something you can't really make a rule against because there's no way to enforce it. And to be honest I think there's more arguments for a draft prospect sitting out than for them playing.
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Mar 21, 2017 21:39
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Just have the NFL enforce it by making them sit that many games. Wouldn't be new.
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Mar 21, 2017 21:39
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TBeats posted:And to be honest I think there's more arguments for a draft prospect sitting out than for them playing. yeah jake butt is probably out $millions, long term, because of his knee injury. why would you play any non-playoff bowl game if those are the stakes
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Mar 21, 2017 21:43
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TBeats posted:Why would the NCAA (or any governing body) ever enter into an agreement to pay people who can just be like "gently caress it I'm not gonna." The vast majority of them don't have that option. Maybe 20 or 30 superstars a year could get away with it. The rest of them, the ones who deserve a paycheck because they're loving up their bodies with zero future beyond "Wichita Car Salesman of the Year", will still play for the same reasons they've always played: pride and love of the game. And a paycheck. Because those billions shouldn't all go to line some other cocksucker's pockets. That would be unamerican.
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Mar 21, 2017 21:47
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TBeats posted:I guess I wasn't clear in my point. My point is paying the players effectively makes them pros so the issue would disappear especially with the rookie pay scale in place.
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Mar 21, 2017 22:05
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Chichevache posted:The vast majority of them don't have that option. Maybe 20 or 30 superstars a year could get away with it. The rest of them, the ones who deserve a paycheck because they're loving up their bodies with zero future beyond "Wichita Car Salesman of the Year", will still play for the same reasons they've always played: pride and love of the game. And a paycheck. Because those billions shouldn't all go to line some other cocksucker's pockets. That would be unamerican. I don't know. That sounds about as American as it gets.
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Mar 21, 2017 22:09
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Jiminy Christmas! Shoes! posted:In the not too distant future top prospects are going to quit halfway through the season after they put out enough good tape. Yep and it's gonna suck for the evaluation process. I hope they don't do something really stupid and push back the 3 year rule to 2 or 1 and end up with 19 year olds getting legitimately murdered by a linebacker.
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Mar 21, 2017 22:12
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SKULL.GIF posted:or what, they lose their scholarship? This doesn't really address the "problem" of players deciding to sit out once they think they've shown enough to be drafted. Players owe percentage back to the school for each game they decide to sit. Toss in some contractual paper work. Welcome to american the country where you can be forced into legally binding arbitration for literally anything long as there's a clause baked into the paperwork to ensure payment is forced. There'd never be enough backlash against the NCAA to stop it. The Big Jesus posted:Just have the NFL enforce it by making them sit that many games. Wouldn't be new. Something I could see the NFL being amenable to doing as well.
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Mar 21, 2017 22:21
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Ches Neckbeard posted:Players owe percentage back to the school for each game they decide to sit. Toss in some contractual paper work. Welcome to american the country where you can be forced into legally binding arbitration for literally anything long as there's a clause baked into the paperwork to ensure payment is forced. There'd never be enough backlash against the NCAA to stop it. What percent should they pay back that would actually make a difference to a guy deciding to sit because he is looking down the barrel of several million?
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Mar 21, 2017 22:25
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The Big Jesus posted:Just have the NFL enforce it by making them sit that many games. Wouldn't be new. Eh I can't see owners agreeing to a policy that might result in them having to bench their highly touted draft pick for half a season I could see them instituting some kind of payscale decrease where you're bound to the payscale for a pick like 10-20 below where you were actually taken if you're a first rounder? Or maybe you get stuck on a team for an extra season before getting to FA I don't know, spitballing Intruder fucked around with this message at 22:29 on Mar 21, 2017 |
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Mar 21, 2017 22:27
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TBeats posted:What percent should they pay back that would actually make a difference to a guy deciding to sit because he is looking down the barrel of several million? Good point. Pay back the whole thing. I'm really just thinking up despicable things I could imagine the NFL/NCAA doing. Like Intruder I'm spitballing.
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Mar 21, 2017 22:41
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McCaffrey and Fournette sat out lovely bowls because they're RBs (devalued in draft, and short careers) with lots of game tape already. their example won't spread wide because other players will want to improve their draft stock and/or their teams will have more on the line.
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Mar 21, 2017 22:49
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Oh no they will charge them for the value for one year of an acc education if they leave early.
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Mar 21, 2017 23:35
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Ches Neckbeard posted:The NCAA could just put a rule in place that screws college players. Just put in a clause that if you're on scholarship you're required to play all games you're able. It's not like they have any problem exploiting them as is. Thats a good way to make the incidence of migraines skyrocket among college football players.
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Mar 21, 2017 23:39
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ragle posted:McCaffrey and Fournette sat out lovely bowls because they're RBs (devalued in draft, and short careers) with lots of game tape already. They were also both injured on and off throughout the year, so it's not like two perfectly healthy dudes who decided to sit on the bench and watch. That extra month of time to get healthy is a big deal.
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Mar 22, 2017 01:48
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Fournette exposed himself to debilitating injury for no reason. No idea why he played this year.
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Mar 22, 2017 01:50
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euphronius posted:Fournette exposed himself to debilitating injury for no reason. No idea why he played this year. If he was that mercenary about his future he'd have gone to Alabama and not LSU. He wanted to play in purple and gold.
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Why do players want to play football?
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