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| Independence Day 2: Resturgeonce |
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44 | 21.36% |
| ScotPol - Unclustering this gently caress |
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19 | 9.22% |
| Trainspotting 2: Independence is my heroin |
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9 | 4.37% |
| Indyref II: Boris hosed a Dead Country |
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14 | 6.80% |
| ScotPol: Wings over Bullshit |
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8 | 3.88% |
| Independence 2: Cameron Lied, UK Died |
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24 | 11.65% |
| Scotpol IV: I Vow To Flee My Country |
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14 | 6.80% |
| ScotPol - A twice in a generation thread |
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17 | 8.25% |
| ScotPol - Where Everything's hosed Up and the Referendums Don't Matter |
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15 | 7.28% |
| ScotPol Thread: Dependence Referendum Incoming |
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2 | 0.97% |
| Indyref II: The Scottish Insturgeoncy |
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10 | 4.85% |
| ScotPol Thread: Act of European Union |
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5 | 2.43% |
| ScotPol - Like Game of Thrones only we wish we would all die |
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25 | 12.14% |
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Coohoolin posted:https://athousandflowers.net/2017/03/20/fash-for-indy-leading-far-right-figure-says-he-will-be-backing-scottish-independence-100/ he's never heard of the likes of Hugh McDiarmid? or the SNP's unfortunate history with WW2?
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Coohoolin posted:https://athousandflowers.net/2017/03/20/fash-for-indy-leading-far-right-figure-says-he-will-be-backing-scottish-independence-100/ "Fascism in Scotland has always been tied to Unionism", they say, casually ignoring how the leader of the SNP at the time said "Hitler is not Scotland's problem". E: I had a phone call.
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Mar 21, 2017 10:55
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Cerv posted:"we met here on our first date…" Ah, that makes a lot more sense! I was thinking the Cornish Pasty stand wasn't very romantic. Re nationalism & fascism: of all the lesser issues of the independence debate, I think the one that bugs me the most is the way certain commentators, invariably on the pro-indy side, keep trying to rewrite history so that Scotland/true Scots are always on the right side of it. By the by, I suspect that's why they're oddly quiet about the Enlightenment (apart from endlessly quoting Burns), despite it being the greatest period of Scottish cultural and intellectual production, because it generally requires having to contextualise things. Niric fucked around with this message at 12:13 on Mar 21, 2017 |
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Mar 21, 2017 12:10
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Jim Dowson is a fleg oval office and not knowing about him requires a breathtaking ignorance about the far right in the UK.
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Mar 21, 2017 14:38
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Niric posted:Ah, that makes a lot more sense! I was thinking the Cornish Pasty stand wasn't very romantic. Depends how good the pasties are, really.
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Mar 21, 2017 16:50
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Did anybody in this thread watch the first day of the Scottish independence referendum debate?
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Mar 21, 2017 19:11
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God no. Even in my most depressive moods I'd never willingly put myself through that sort of torture. Though I did see from Twitter that our paid representatives were arguing about who blocked who on Twitter, so that's inspiring.
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Mar 21, 2017 20:08
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The one interesting takeaway is that Labour seem to be slowly orienting their attacks more towards the Greens. Which might suggest they see them as a threat for the local elections. In which case, lol
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Mar 21, 2017 20:13
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Leggsy posted:The one interesting takeaway is that Labour seem to be slowly orienting their attacks more towards the Greens. Which might suggest they see them as a threat for the local elections. Given the general effectiveness of their attacks on the SNP I see a bright future for the Greens then
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Mar 21, 2017 21:19
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Niric posted:Did anyone see this yesterday at Central Station? Couple getting hitched after Glasgow train station proposal. It's common for people to meet under the clock in the middle of the station.
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Mar 21, 2017 23:04
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Neat. Next time I'm there I'm going to spend an hour or so pretending to be relieved that people aren't my blind date!!! 
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Mar 21, 2017 23:10
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I would submit that as a good way to get the most out of the NHS while one still can.
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Mar 21, 2017 23:13
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There was a whole advertising campaign around meeting under the clock a year or two ago. I don't remember just what it was advertising, possibly the usefulness of the clock for meeting under.
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Mar 21, 2017 23:36
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Leggsy posted:The one interesting takeaway is that Labour seem to be slowly orienting their attacks more towards the Greens. Which might suggest they see them as a threat for the local elections. Not sure it suggests anything about how the local elections will go, but the Greens are actually getting pretty close to Labour in polls for the regional list voting intention. The YouGov poll from last week had Labour at 14% and the Greens at 12%.
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Mar 21, 2017 23:52
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big scary monsters posted:There was a whole advertising campaign around meeting under the clock a year or two ago. I don't remember just what it was advertising, possibly the usefulness of the clock for meeting under.  This is the clock in question. It's been a thing for decades http://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/news/13280932.Eye_Spy_Glasgow__Meet_me_under_the_clock/
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Mar 22, 2017 01:31
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Yeah I'm familiar with it but the station had posters and stuff up about it a while back. Maybe it was a clock anniversary, I'm not sure.
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Mar 22, 2017 02:01
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Jedit posted:Depends how good the pasties are, really. Now that he's got a bit of time on his hands, perhaps noted
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Mar 22, 2017 09:01
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Leggsy posted:The one interesting takeaway is that Labour seem to be slowly orienting their attacks more towards the Greens. Which might suggest they see them as a threat for the local elections. I dunno, the Tories seemed to be making plenty of attacks at the Greens too. I think it's just a sign that the Greens are a growing force in Scottish politics, and their influence is outsized of their number of MSPs while the SNP have a minority government. This is good for Scotland. A pro-indy party who aren't the SNP, & haven't shown the proclivity for splitting like other left wing pro-indy parties.
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Mar 22, 2017 13:05
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Pissflaps posted:Did anybody in this thread watch the first day of the Scottish independence referendum debate? Yeah, I quite enjoyed Ruth Davidson, although was obviously partial to her arguments. The greens appeared to have a 14 year old redhead in their section. Not sure if he just wandered in and sat down or was actually an MSP. Also looks like the vote scheduled for today has been postponed until (I would guess) next week, given the attack.
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Mar 22, 2017 21:23
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Arkane posted:Yeah, I quite enjoyed Ruth Davidson, although was obviously partial to her arguments. Ross Greer is 22, despite not looking a day over 18. He's an actual, in the wild, Christian socialist too. Not many of them left these days. Davidson has done a very impressive job. She's almost single-handedly detoxified the Tory brand in Scotland, and managed it at a time when the Tories are in government at Westminster and are still wildly unpopular in Scotland. That said, I wish she'd use her talent for a slightly less awful cause.
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Mar 22, 2017 21:29
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forkboy84 posted:Ross Greer is 22, despite not looking a day over 18. He's an actual, in the wild, Christian socialist too. Not many of them left these days. It's a confluence of court jester (a la Boris Johnson) and single issue campaigning (a la Farage). I only hope that the support for the Scottish Tories because of her is as fragile as the Lib Dem surge was until the coalition.
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Mar 22, 2017 21:55
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Davidson's (and the Scottish Tories) biggest threat right now is a hard Brexit. If things go tits up, as they appear to be likely to, then the Tories poll numbers will drop like a stone. EDIT: It's also really easy to overstate the extent of the Tory breakthrough in Scotland. The 22-23% they polled in 2016 is only 7 points higher than their previous high watermark in the Scottish Parliament. It's also the worst and second worst electoral performance of a second party since the Parliament was established (worst in constituency vote, second worst in regional). Leggsy fucked around with this message at 22:23 on Mar 22, 2017 |
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Mar 22, 2017 22:17
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Leggsy posted:Davidson's (and the Scottish Tories) biggest threat right now is a hard Brexit. If things go tits up, as they appear to be likely to, then the Tories poll numbers will drop like a stone. Yeah, 7 points higher than 15% is a pretty big improvement though, relative to where they were. No, they aren't going to win an election in Scotland any time soon, and they are massive beneficiaries of Labour's spectacular collapse, but none the less they are the 2nd largest party at Holyrood. While there is an unpopular Tory government down south. Lets not stress how utterly unimaginable that was 10 years ago. 10 years ago Labour had 28 more seats than the Tories and were leading a coalition with the Liberals. They now have 7 seats more than Labour. 13 seats more than they had in 2007. They are still awful bastards, but it's still an impressive turnaround. Hasn't happened in isolation, but Davidson has made the most of the circumstances. Quite the opposite of Labour.
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Mar 22, 2017 22:41
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forkboy84 posted:Yeah, 7 points higher than 15% is a pretty big improvement though, relative to where they were. No, they aren't going to win an election in Scotland any time soon, and they are massive beneficiaries of Labour's spectacular collapse, but none the less they are the 2nd largest party at Holyrood. While there is an unpopular Tory government down south. Lets not stress how utterly unimaginable that was 10 years ago. 10 years ago Labour had 28 more seats than the Tories and were leading a coalition with the Liberals. They now have 7 seats more than Labour. 13 seats more than they had in 2007. Part of the issue is that Labour didn't convince their voters to put them down for the list votes. Labour and the Tories had similar vote share (Can;t remember who was ahead, but it was close) but since the Labour vote share was almost exclusively in the Constituency vote, and anemic at best in the list vote, then they didn't get an appropriate number of MSPs
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Mar 22, 2017 23:42
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Pissflaps posted:I'm going to move to the Orkney Islands, put on an outrageously accurate accent then agitate for independence from Scotland. I am super curious to hear this accent, as an Orcadian myself. I'm pretty sure most up there aren't that interested in independence, seeing as about half of all people living there are incomers.
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Mar 23, 2017 20:54
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he's just making fun of coohoolin, which is something I'm sure we're all happy with
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Mar 23, 2017 23:10
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I just want to hear some poor lad imitating Cameron Stout as best he can, is that so bad?
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Mar 23, 2017 23:30
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cargohills posted:he's just making fun of coohoolin, which is something I'm sure we're all happy with Yes.
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Mar 23, 2017 23:34
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Edit: mispost sorry everyone.
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Mar 24, 2017 13:20
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Pissflaps posted:Edit: mispost sorry everyone. Apology accepted. Now I rather think you ought to apologise for the other 185,748!!!
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Budgie posted:I am super curious to hear this accent, as an Orcadian myself. I'm pretty sure most up there aren't that interested in independence, seeing as about half of all people living there are incomers. Weirdly, I think everyone I know in Orkney is a committed Yesser, but I feel that probably says more about how I get to know people than about Orkney 
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Mar 25, 2017 14:56
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crispix posted:Apology accepted. Now I rather think you ought to apologise for the other 185,748!!!  Is pissflaps the most prolific poster on the forums? I only really venture out of D&D to CineD and occasionally TRP and TVIV, so maybe there's a bunch of people churning out posts in other places but that seems like a pretty high benchmark
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Mar 25, 2017 21:49
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Niric posted:
35.65 posts per day is a lot, but I'm sure there are people with higher. I'm on 12.3/day and I don't even try hard.
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Mar 25, 2017 21:53
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Pissflaps apparently just scrapes on to the high score list for posts in D&D, but scores a respectable 38th on the most ignored users list. If there's a forum wide most posts/hour statistic I'm too stupid to figure out how to find it.
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Mar 26, 2017 02:19
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big scary monsters posted:Pissflaps apparently just scrapes on to the high score list for posts in D&D, but scores a respectable 38th on the most ignored users list. If there's a forum wide most posts/hour statistic I'm too stupid to figure out how to find it. It's literally called Posts Per Hour. I'm not sure how accurate it is, though, because it puts Flaps well behind Owl Fancier, Guavanaut and Tesseraction and only a fraction ahead of me and Forkboy.
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Mar 26, 2017 03:33
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Jedit posted:It's literally called Posts Per Hour. I'm not sure how accurate it is, though, because it puts Flaps well behind Owl Fancier, Guavanaut and Tesseraction and only a fraction ahead of me and Forkboy. I think that's the same one big scary monsters posted i.e. D&D only; note the forum id number. Similarly I can't see any obvious and simple way of getting a forum-wide stat, but to be honest it was more idle and fleeting speculation than rampant curiosity (or intended criticism). In actual Scottish news, the BBC magazine has a decent article on baby boxes, and the difficulty of making sweeping claims for them, especially in connection with infant mortality. It essentially just covers the same ground as that blog post from a couple of months ago in a more magazine-y, less detailed way, as you'd expect, but there's a nice graph (which is interactive and I can't figure out how to embed it) and the example of the US is instructive: quote:One country where the baby box idea has received a lot of attention is the United States - because they are struggling with poor infant mortality rates - six per 1,000 births, which makes them comparable to Poland and Hungary, below the level you'd expect based on their income. Overall though, the broad conclusion is near-identical to the blog post from before, albeit with much less emphasis on the role private companies are playing in this: quote:"The box alone doesn't seem likely to matter" ... Governments and individuals should not see the box as solely effective, without improving care and education for parents also. There's also this slightly unusual story about student housing: Lego-style flats built from shipping containers. The article makes no mention of the implications, focusing more on the curiosity value, but there's potentially something valuable in this in terms of constructing accomodation quickly and cheaply. Which given Britain's housing problem, could be very useful, even if I don't think Scotland has quite the same issue currently. I know there's been some similar projects elsewhere, such as this one in Newport aimed specifically at tackling homelessness that was reported on last year, so it's interesting to follow the development, even if, in this case, it doesn't seem to be intended to have much (if any) social/public value or to reduce costs for anyone except the construction company and owners. There's also the well-documented problems with slapping up cheap prefab housing to hit target numbers, but something to keep tabs on at least. By the by, Glasgow seems to have had explosion in student accomodation construction in the last 5 or so years, which might just be related to a slow down in building post-2008, but the current volume seems like the kind of bubble that leads to a bunch of derelict or half-finished sites littered around the place, but that's something for a much longer article. Niric fucked around with this message at 12:12 on Mar 26, 2017 |
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Mar 26, 2017 11:27
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A midwife friend of mine shared an article about baby boxes on Facebook and half the comments were American women railing against it as unwarranted government interference into the sanctity of child birth. There were even cries of "socialism!" but one did mention that Finland has a lower abortion rate than the States so I guess the debate is ongoing.
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Mar 26, 2017 11:52
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big scary monsters posted:A midwife friend of mine shared an article about baby boxes on Facebook and half the comments were American women railing against it as unwarranted government interference into the sanctity of child birth. There were even cries of "socialism!" but one did mention that Finland has a lower abortion rate than the States so I guess the debate is ongoing. That's hilarious- I mean, quite apart from the weirdness of railing against a nice thing to help kids that comes free, if they're that bothered about it they can just chuck it out and avoid any engagement with services. I mean, that would be stupid, terrible and potentially damaging to the child, but these seem like stupid and terrible people anyway. Also, sidenote, the photo accompanying the BBC article shows the box having handles. As I understand it from a colleague, who's been involved in a government working group on the box design in Scotland, that's less than ideal. In her account, a fairly common feature of the meetings was midwives/health visitors/third-sector representatives (it's probably worth noting here she's a midwife and third-sector representative, so not unbiased!) having to carefully and repeatedly explain to civil servants/politicians/GPs/others that the design needs to be as basic and hazard-free as possible. Handles and lids, while potentially useful, are a bad idea, because it's absolutely certain that these will lead to someone picking the box up or putting the lid on while the baby is inside.
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Mar 26, 2017 12:28
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What's wrong with picking up the box when the baby is inside?
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Hoops posted:What's wrong with picking up the box when the baby is inside?
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