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oh jeroen, shine on you crazy diamond https://www.ft.com/content/2498740e-b911-3dbf-942d-ecce511a351e quote:Jeroen Dijsselbloem, the head of the eurozone’s finance ministers, has come under attack after refusing to apologise for saying some southern European countries had wasted money on “drinks and women” in the run upto the eurozone crisis.
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https://twitter.com/Publico/status/844220394164948993 Dijsselbloem : "The southern europeans spend their money on booze and girls" I mean gently caress where else would you spend it you cheeky oval office
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https://twitter.com/youngvulgarian/status/844226597309825024 Well then
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Ahaha the UK too? https://twitter.com/BBCBreaking/status/844221181989457921 Everyone is such a pussy, jesus loving christ E: Also, I wanna know what the Dutch are doing with the money that most of our companies pay there in taxes
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orange sky posted:Ahaha the UK too? I feel like there has to be some kind of specific intelligence inspiring this. The future of flight is looking super depressing either way though, because security theater shows no sign of going back in the bottle ever.
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Smart, ultra successful business man making mad cash arranging meetings and making deals. What's not to like? 
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LemonDrizzle posted:oh jeroen, shine on you crazy diamond Frankly I would like him to remain head of the eurogroup, if only to keep him away from my own country. Apparently he was also a target of the Greek anarchists sending parcel bombs btw, along with Pierre Moscovici, Klaus Regling and previous Greek FinMin Gikas Hardouvelis. Pluskut Tukker fucked around with this message at 17:52 on Mar 21, 2017 |
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Mar 21, 2017 17:50
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LemonDrizzle posted:This is completely incorrect - there was a strong negative public reaction against any suggestion of going easy on Greece in several northern and eastern european countries. Because of a completely fake and misleading narrative, i.e. we where bailing out the greeks, rather than the european banks who foolishly lent to greece and should have been left to fail.
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Mar 21, 2017 18:10
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His Divine Shadow posted:Because of a completely fake and misleading narrative, i.e. we where bailing out the greeks, rather than the european banks who foolishly lent to greece and should have been left to fail. To be fair Greece was publishing fraudulent numbers, so it's not like the banks were just handing over money regardless of what they were seeing. What they were seeing just wasn't true.
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Mar 21, 2017 18:16
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Pluskut Tukker posted:Frankly I would like him to remain head of the eurogroup, if only to keep him away from my own country. Wow what a display of Euro-solidarity here. Everybody has to do sacrifices in this economy friend.
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Sinteres posted:To be fair Greece was publishing fraudulent numbers, so it's not like the banks were just handing over money regardless of what they were seeing. What they were seeing just wasn't true. Was it leman brothers who helped greece cook the books ? Let them bail themselves
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unpacked robinhood posted:Was it leman brothers who helped greece cook the books ? Let them bail themselves Lehman Brothers doesn't exist anymore.
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LemonDrizzle posted:although the silly dutch electorate did not appropriately reward his governing wisdom in the recent elections, never fear - he is to be found some kind of permanent eu position regardless, or may just stay on as the head of the eurogroup anyway because, hey, why not? *party reaches lowest numbers ever since their creation* "Truly this is not representative of our Mandate from Heaven to rule!" orange sky posted:E: Also, I wanna know what the Dutch are doing with the money that most of our companies pay there in taxes We just gave the neoliberal another term as prime minister so what do you think? We gave it to the rich.
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Mar 21, 2017 18:27
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unpacked robinhood posted:Was it leman brothers who helped greece cook the books ? Let them bail themselves No, it was Goldman Sachs.
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His Divine Shadow posted:Because of a completely fake and misleading narrative, i.e. we where bailing out the greeks, rather than the european banks who foolishly lent to greece and should have been left to fail. That's actually not correct, given that there were huge haircuts on privately held Greek debt. Also yay for Dijsselbloem. It would be very funny if he keeps his post to allow S&D to keep their last "president" - although Peter Kazimir has a strong twitter game, so he would be fine as well. GaussianCopula fucked around with this message at 19:20 on Mar 21, 2017 |
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Sinteres posted:To be fair Greece was publishing fraudulent numbers, so it's not like the banks were just handing over money regardless of what they were seeing. What they were seeing just wasn't true. Everyone knew their numbers didn't make sense though.
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u brexit ukip it posted:Everyone knew their numbers didn't make sense though. Maybe, and I'll be the first to say the banks are awful, but it's hard to portray Greece as simply being hapless victims of evil bullying creditors who forced them to take bad loans if Greece was committing fraud in the process.
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Sinteres posted:Maybe, and I'll be the first to say the banks are awful, but it's hard to portray Greece as simply being hapless victims of evil bullying creditors who forced them to take bad loans if Greece was committing fraud in the process.
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Mar 21, 2017 19:56
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Sinteres posted:Maybe, and I'll be the first to say the banks are awful, but it's hard to portray Greece as simply being hapless victims of evil bullying creditors who forced them to take bad loans if Greece was committing fraud in the process. Yeah, and the political class of all countries have blood on their hands. That's kind of stuff is a lovely non-excuse for some of capitalism's worst excesses.
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GaussianCopula posted:That's actually not correct, given that there were huge haircuts on privately held Greek debt. It's actually very correct.
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It takes two to lie, one to lie and the other to lend
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Sinteres posted:I feel like there has to be some kind of specific intelligence inspiring this. The future of flight is looking super depressing either way though, because security theater shows no sign of going back in the bottle ever. not saying that is a good thing, but the list is actually really good aka it includes Saudi Arabia. The USA travel ban was basically just Sudan and some Shia countries for whatever reason (as if Iran will suicide bomb a plane?) anything which makes life for Saudis more inconvenient is cool& good in my book
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https://twitter.com/YahooActuFR/status/844246122327687175 Macron has known the crushing grip of poverty because he once had to live on a mere €1000 per month as a teenage student.
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LemonDrizzle posted:https://twitter.com/YahooActuFR/status/844246122327687175 i, working class man
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I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!
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LemonDrizzle posted:https://twitter.com/YahooActuFR/status/844246122327687175 Their humanity simulator chips still leave a lot to be desired
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LemonDrizzle posted:https://twitter.com/YahooActuFR/status/844246122327687175 
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GaussianCopula is Dijsselbloem's personal account and I claim my 5 pounds.
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YF-23 posted:No, it was Goldman Sachs. After 2002-3, it really wasn't Goldman Sachs anymore. The Karamanlis government was perfectly capable of cooking the books without foreign help. And since for the past five years Greek prosecutors have been trying to get the head of the statistics office convicted for bringing Greek statistics up to European standards, having reliable numbers still doesn't seem to be a priority for Greece's ruling class.
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GaussianCopula posted:It would be very funny if he keeps his post to allow S&D to keep their last "president" - although Peter Kazimir has a strong twitter game, so he would be fine as well.
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LemonDrizzle posted:Macron has known the crushing grip of poverty because he once had to live on a mere €1000 per month as a teenage student. Depending on rent, that's not really much.
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 Hamon's dropped back into fifth place in the French primary polls, behind Mélenchon. Feel the Mélenchomentum! throw to first drat IT posted:Depending on rent, that's not really much.
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throw to first drat IT posted:Depending on rent, that's not really much. 20 years ago?
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First we would need to know whether he's talking 1000€ in today's euros or 1000€ in whatever years he was studying euros, yeah. In any case, I would certainly have been ecstatic if I got 1000 a month as a teenage student. Cerebral Bore fucked around with this message at 12:54 on Mar 22, 2017 |
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Mar 22, 2017 12:48
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I'd have been dead of alcohol poisoning. ... Dijsselbloem was right 
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Wait - being a full-time student AND earn € 1000/month? Bull. If he got it from his folks I understand but that's about the end of it.
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You can get nearly €1000/month from the government in the Netherlands as well when you are a (fulltime) student. Plot twist it is a loan and about 2/3 of minimum wage.
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LemonDrizzle posted:Are you looking forward to the future in which the EPP holds all the EU presidencies but the socialist God-Emperor Schulz rules the vaterland with his iron fist of communism, friend GC? First of all it should be noted that Schulz is not a hardcore leftist, no matter how much certain people wish he was, but anyway, I want the S&D to keep the Eurogroup presidency, given that their candidates (Kazimir and Dijsselbloem) are Wolfi's best pupils and therefore Schulz will have peaked to early, lead the SPD to a, for their situation respectable, second place and a new Grand Coalition, because if his tenure in the EP has shown anything, it is that he will do anything for a post, and everyone can go on with their life as normal.
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LemonDrizzle posted:oh jeroen, shine on you crazy diamond "During the crisis of the euro, the countries of the North have shown solidarity with the countries affected by the crisis." Hmmmmmmmm. That's funny, top work.
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throw to first drat IT posted:Depending on rent, that's not really much. You can live anywhere in France with 1000/month excluding maybe Paris, especially 20 years ago adjusted for inflation or not. e the whole quote Le candidat à présidentielle répond à une question posée par un internaute qui lui demande s'il a "déjà vécu avec 1.000 euros par mois" Et voici sa réponse : quote:J'ai vécu à un moment donné, quand j'étais adolescent, avec environ 1000 euros par mois. Quand j'ai quitté ma famille pour venir à Paris, dans des moments qui peuvent arriver dans la vie. Ça a duré 2 ans parce que c'étaient des choix personnels et intimes sur lesquels je ne reviendrai pas. (...) J'ai, à ce moment-là, donné des cours particuliers pendant 2 ans. Donc je sais ce que c'est, oui. Je sais ce que c'est de boucler une fin de mois difficile. Je sais ce que c'est de devoir chercher... et encore j'étais favorisé, j'étais en classe prépa, je pouvais donner des cours particuliers. Donc je sais ce que c'est des étudiants qui doivent se faire le MacDo pour pouvoir vivre de leurs études, oui. I cbf translating it but it's a bit less laughable in context unpacked robinhood fucked around with this message at 14:40 on Mar 22, 2017 |
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