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u brexit ukip it posted:There is still the PvdA option. They really like being in government and it's not like they have anything to lose at this point. Jeoh posted:e: wrt Dutch coalitions, PvdA membership just overwhelmingly (80%) voted against any coalition with the VVD, making VVD-CDA-D66-CU/GL much more likely.
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Oh right, I missed that.
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# ? Mar 18, 2017 19:06 |
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confirmed: here are the 11 candidates for this year's presidential election (they had to get at least 500 signatures from elected officials each) im not doing a big write up because theyre all loving bad from left to right, top to bottom -natalie arthaud, workers' struggle, far left workers struggle is one of those revolutionary trotskyist party nobody vote for -françois asselineau, popular republican union, cooky really popular with conspiracy types, thinks the media are against him, when in fact they just dont give a gently caress, claims to be the most popular party in france because his website got 2 million views or somescuh, wants "frexit "(his words) from eu, nato etc -jacques cheminade, solidariy and progress, cooky AGAIN this guy, third time he's candidate, more than any other candidates this year, his party is tied to the American LaRouche movement (conspiracy theory guys about the Queen, i dunno), famously wants to colonize the moon haha democracy is a joke. -nicolas dupont aignan, rise up france!, right wing small town mayor with a big eurosceptic streak, was allied with farage in the european parliament at one point, pretty much lepen light. -Crooked François Fillon, the republicans, right wing the future ex-president de la république won big at the right wing primaries but the FAKE NEWS media and the COMMUNIST judges can't accept that and invented this whole story about him giving a lot of public money to his wife for a fake job. instead of resigning like he probably should have he doubled down because his base is crazy. Big time lover of traditional marriage, slashing public spending (lol) and russia -Benoit Hamont, socialist party, center-left won the left wing primaries in a bit of an upset to the "socialist" establishement, benoit is a bit in a bind because his socialist buddies prefer the centrist macron while melenchon didnt want to drop down everything to help unify the left (such as it is). the left is hosed hosed hosed. at least benoit is kind of cool guy? big love of universal income and taxing the robots. -Jean lassale, independent, centre right originally a member of parliament for the democratic movement (which supports macron this year), lassalle decided to run because why not?? I think he's basque or something. seems to be running on a platform of traditional rural centrist but nobody cares -Marine le pen, national front, far right LE PEN *click* wants to save western civilization from the eu, islam, loves putin, trump etc.. etc... pretty much certain to finish first of the first round, she's probably going to lose in the second because still seen as too fascist (for now?). -Emmanuel Macron, on the move!, center the luckiest son of a bitch in france imo, this beautiful banker is bag full of hot air responsible for some of the most disliked policies of the hollande goverment yet is leading the polls?? i guess he's got a modicum of charisma, his only saving graces and also the fact that his only real adversaries are a fascist and a deluded crooked politician. neoliberalism last hope -Jean-Luc Mélenchon, Unsubdued France, left wing Mélenchon is back with a vengeance and a newly named coalition of small left wing parties and the communist party. does a lot of weird poo poo like holograms at rallies and he has quite the following, he doesn't like the us very much but loves russia so the current situation must be weird rn for him. the french chavez (lol), he wants to usher in the sixth republic. the left is doomed because he and hamon weren't able to come to an agreement -philippe poutou, New anticapitalist party, far left perfect way to book-end this list is another revolutionary troskyist candidate because two is better than one, no? this guys is an actual factory worker, that's all i know. i think he's popular at my uni, so thats something but he's probably going to do one percent, so yeah
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# ? Mar 19, 2017 00:24 |
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Ideology aside, the problem with CU is that such a coalition would have the absolute bare minimum majority in both houses. Groenlinks would offer stronger margins. So fingers crossed for a "Groenrechts" coalition.
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twoday posted:Ideology aside, the problem with CU is that such a coalition would have the absolute bare minimum majority in both houses. Groenlinks would offer stronger margins. So fingers crossed for a "Groenrechts" coalition. That would actually be nice. I'd like a government with greater care for the environment than the VVD is likely to bring, but without some of the batshit insane economic policy that Groenlinks has been advocating. I mean, the world definately should stop burning coal, but unilaterally shutting down coal/oil/gas terminals in Rotterdam harbor will just tank the economy, while the rest of the world merrily carries on loving over the climate.
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# ? Mar 19, 2017 12:56 |
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And a strong role by d66 would help mediate the arguments between VVD and GL, though I imagine the negotiations would take a while, and I bet Jesse Klaver would be full of swagger and annoying as gently caress to negotiate with. It seems unlikely, but it's the best possibility, I think.
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# ? Mar 19, 2017 15:20 |
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GL and D66 together clamping down the worst parts of liberal lunacy would be a best realistic case scenario given the election outcome.
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# ? Mar 19, 2017 15:22 |
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The aquamarine coalition
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# ? Mar 19, 2017 15:24 |
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D66 is a neoliberal party ffs, they are no better than the VVD.
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# ? Mar 19, 2017 15:36 |
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Namarrgon posted:Party overview; I want to add that GL is also an option for the coalition. It would give more room in both houses. It does really depend on the major topics the upcoming government wants to adress. Second, CU is actually a kinda social Christian party. Not the 'gently caress you got mine type' but they actually want to help the poor etc. Downside is that it is from a strict religious background, so pro life etc. Third, i am pleasently surprised with the results. If anyone was expecting something better, lol Edit: but a very good overview. GJ
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# ? Mar 19, 2017 21:37 |
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oliwan posted:D66 is a neoliberal party ffs, they are no better than the VVD. Bel me maar als de revolutie begint
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# ? Mar 19, 2017 21:43 |
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so apparently the guy who attacked the cop at d'Orly was was high as balls on alcohol, weed and cocaine which is one way to get to paradise i guess
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# ? Mar 20, 2017 02:39 |
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Fallen Hamprince posted:so apparently the guy who attacked the cop at d'Orly was was high as balls on alcohol, weed and cocaine which is one way to get to paradise i guess radical
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# ? Mar 20, 2017 08:42 |
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Have you ever waged jihad..... on weed?
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# ? Mar 20, 2017 12:28 |
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Philonius posted:Have you ever waged jihad..... on weed? Jeff Sessions is doing it right now.
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# ? Mar 20, 2017 13:04 |
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Everyone is so sassy and sharp on Monday mornings
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# ? Mar 20, 2017 14:00 |
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Latest poll before the first debate tonight, which includes only the 5 main candidates: The percentage of people asked who are 'sure of their voting intention' for each candidate: Hamon 46% Macron 51% Fillon 53% Mélenchon 57% Le Pen 75% http://www.bfmtv.com/politique/presidentielle-macron-et-le-pen-au-coude-a-coude-hamon-decroche-1125327.html Macron continuing to benefit from the shambles on the left and the right. Le Pen hasn't got much space to expand either.
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# ? Mar 20, 2017 18:53 |
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It's happening!!! They are trying to form Groenrechts
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# ? Mar 21, 2017 15:22 |
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Femke Halsema was liberal of the year in 2006 and Rutte wrote his Groenrechts pamphlet in 2008 so really it is long overdue. Embrace liberalism and face to bloodshed.
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# ? Mar 21, 2017 18:46 |
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Major development in the Fillon merdestorm. For those who don't speak French, the Fillons have now been accused by the National Financial Prosecutor's office of "escroquerie aggravée, faux et usage de faux", which if my high-school level French is correct means something like "aggravated fraud, forgery and usage of forgeries". The charges relate to inconsistencies in Penelope Fillon's time sheets when she was 'working' for her husband, investigators suspect the time sheets were falsified. I don't understand enough about the French legal system to really know but that sounds like it greatly increases the chances of one or both of the Fillons going to big boy jail.
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# ? Mar 22, 2017 05:14 |
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BUT HER TIMESHEETS
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# ? Mar 22, 2017 09:19 |
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Everytime I hear about Francois Fillon, I think about Francois Villon, the medieval French rapper.
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# ? Mar 22, 2017 11:39 |
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Wilders is being a little bitch about "MILLIONS OF PVV VOTERS BEING SILENCED" and now Schipper is going all "ya work something out and go full hitler again" https://twitter.com/DenhartogT/status/844493898982588416
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# ? Mar 22, 2017 12:03 |
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Somebody stabbed a cop at the UK Parliament, looks like Corbyn finally snapped.
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# ? Mar 22, 2017 16:29 |
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someone knocked over his prize jar of jam i see
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# ? Mar 22, 2017 17:00 |
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Fallen Hamprince posted:Somebody stabbed a cop at the UK Parliament, looks like Corbyn finally snapped. As of March 29th we will start the two year process of negotiations to remove this post from this thread.
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# ? Mar 22, 2017 18:46 |
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twoday posted:As of March 29th we will start the two year process of negotiations to remove this post from this thread. I oppose this move in principle but accept that it is the will of the posters, and will pressure the mods to ensure the best possible deal for them.
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# ? Mar 22, 2017 19:32 |
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invokin' article 69 ooooh yeah
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# ? Mar 24, 2017 07:33 |
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current labour status: EVERYTHING IS FINE https://twitter.com/fastFT/status/847034268144558080
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# ? Mar 29, 2017 11:40 |
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Fallen Hamprince posted:current labour status: EVERYTHING IS FINE Labor officials should probably stop intentionally stabbing their leader so they might be able to win, but then again centrists would rather lose to a fascist than let a leftist have any power
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# ? Mar 29, 2017 16:06 |
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Fallen Hamprince posted:current labour status: EVERYTHING IS FINE corbyn is ridiculously bad at leading labour
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# ? Mar 29, 2017 16:24 |
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Condiv posted:Labor officials should probably stop intentionally stabbing their leader so they might be able to win, but then again centrists would rather lose to a fascist than let a leftist have any power Great Corbyn would be fantastically popular if it weren't for those traitorous
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# ? Mar 29, 2017 16:50 |
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name who replaces corbyn give specific names
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# ? Mar 29, 2017 17:45 |
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because everyone else in labour is even more hopeless than he is, as shown by 2010 and 2015
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# ? Mar 29, 2017 17:46 |
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Fallen Hamprince posted:Great Corbyn would be fantastically popular if it weren't for those traitorous shadow cabinet members & MPs exactly have they tried couping him again this year? or are they just going for the passive aggressive tear him down strategy now
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# ? Mar 29, 2017 17:49 |
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jeremy corbyn is unironically bad
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# ? Mar 29, 2017 19:25 |
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jeremy corbyn is 70% good 30% bad
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# ? Mar 29, 2017 19:28 |
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corbyn sucks less than everyone else hamprince, don't be pissflaps
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# ? Mar 29, 2017 19:33 |
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Forums Terrorist posted:because everyone else in labour is even more hopeless than he is, as shown by 2010 and 2015 as 2016 showed us the least bad option always wins elections
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John McDonnell would probably be better
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