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https://twitter.com/St_Rev/status/842536808575647744 https://twitter.com/St_Rev/status/842537544189431808 https://twitter.com/St_Rev/status/842537672006615040 https://twitter.com/St_Rev/status/842538555201208322 Government funding of Hamilton made people vote Trump.
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I see St_Rev still subscribes to the "father wouldn't have to hit you if you weren't such an awful child" school of interpretation of the Trump Victory
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Mar 20, 2017 03:52
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Also lol at this entire thread https://twitter.com/St_Rev/status/843652044758114306 https://twitter.com/St_Rev/status/843652259485487104 https://twitter.com/St_Rev/status/843652745458606081 https://twitter.com/St_Rev/status/843653279846453254 He's mad about this, btw: https://twitter.com/Intuit/status/842833184823758848
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Mar 20, 2017 04:22
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"BAD THINGS EXIST THEREFORE I'M RIGHT" - a person who prides themselves on how smart they think they are
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Mar 20, 2017 04:25
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That's Admiral Grace Hopper to you, Intuit.
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Mar 20, 2017 06:28
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I would bet rear end hair that there are no Gamergaters who volunteer in soup kitchens.
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Mar 20, 2017 06:32
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failing forward posted:I would bet rear end hair that there are no Gamergaters who volunteer in soup kitchens. I don't know, I can definitely think of some people I've met who volunteer specifically to support their self-image of "good person" while not actually being a good person. You can tell because they'll whip it out as their equivalent of a black friend in arguments
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Mar 20, 2017 06:50
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How dare you call me a bigoted racist I helped out at a homeless shelter once!!!
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Mar 20, 2017 06:52
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Imagine being St_Rev's roommate and having to listen to him bitch about all the mundane inoffensive crap he was exposed to that day.
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Mar 20, 2017 06:57
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Sax Solo posted:Imagine being St_Rev's roommate and having to listen to him bitch about all the mundane inoffensive crap he was exposed to that day. And god loving help you if you make the mistake of committing the cardinal sin of making a normative judgement on a left-wing basis. St_Rev shall never forgive your transgresion
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Mar 20, 2017 17:03
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NLJP posted:Excuse me? What? That is the actual real opinion of grown man Jon Jafari.
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Mar 20, 2017 17:16
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Jontron thinks that discrimination against minorities no longer exists but white people becoming a minority in the US is bad because ???. Jontron thinks white people becoming a minority in their own country is wrong on principle but black Americans being a minority in their own country is unexamined because oh gee look at the time. Jontron wants to talk about immigration but spends tons of time talking about black people instead but definitely isn't racist because [scene missing] Jontron is a loving brainless baby man who is lucky enough to have made a living by playing bad games on camera and screening "what?? WHAAATT!?" in increasingly high pitched voices, him having dipshit halfwitted opinions is perhaps not unbelievable but the breathtaking idiocy on display in his debate needs to be seen to be understood.
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The Vosgian Beast posted:And god loving help you if you make the mistake of committing the cardinal sin of making a normative judgement on a left-wing basis. St_Rev shall never forgive your transgresion Remember that time he got all "I can't even" over people calling out Peter Thiel's incredibly stupid "but what if having too few scandals is ~bad~" comment? Like I'm sure it all makes sense in his head due to varying levels of mental gymnastics but christ the amount of effort he must have to invest to just keep his self-image positive while earnestly supporting really, obviously stupid statements like that has to be enormous
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Mar 20, 2017 17:36
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ate all the Oreos posted:I don't know, I can definitely think of some people I've met who volunteer specifically to support their self-image of "good person" while not actually being a good person. You can tell because they'll whip it out as their equivalent of a black friend in arguments That specific crew was all about purchasing indulgences, at least early on when they thought they still had a chance to shape the image people had of them. It tapered off once everyone knew what their deal was, ~for some reason~
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Mar 20, 2017 18:46
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Igiari posted:That is the actual real opinion of grown man Jon Jafari. What the gently caress does cyan being blue or red or whatever the gently caress it is have to do about anything re. America and Europe???
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Samovar posted:What the gently caress does cyan being blue or red or whatever the gently caress it is have to do about anything re. America and Europe??? Yes I mean Bad Racist Opinion Manchild Matinee is not exactly surprising anywhere on the internet but this argument seems to just be word salad nonsense? I don;t know why I'm even asking really because of course it'll be dumb as all hell but I kinda want to understand.
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Mar 20, 2017 20:41
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Is anybody here familiar with Celia Green? Seems like another thinker for the Evola/Randroid crowd.quote:Together with some academic associates Dr Green runs Oxford Forum, an organisation which was set up to oppose increasing ideological bias in mainstream academia, and to be a centre for the expression of dissenting ideas in philosophy, psychology and other academic fields. From her bizarre wikipedia page: quote:There are strong hereditarian and anti-feminist elements in her thinking. The former element may have been part of the reason she received support from the psychologist, the late Professor Hans Eysenck, who for a number of years was Director of the Institute of Psychophysical Research which Green founded. quote:The aphorism, with its tendency to paradox and extreme compression, seems to be particularly suited to Green’s confrontational mode of thought. Some of her ‘anti-feminist’ aphorisms have the power to shock even after long familiarity; for example: ‘If you think of women as human, they are exasperating on account of their incredible feebleness; of course, it’s all right if you don’t think of them as human at all.’ And finally, quote:Herbert Spencer was opposed to state interventionism and also to female suffrage, on the grounds that women would be too likely to support paternalistic (or interventionist) policies.
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Mar 22, 2017 01:39
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Wikipedia pages about fringe figures curated by die-hard fans and protected by obscurity and the few well-meaning editors who want to fix things being driven off by said fans is my favorite thing
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Mar 22, 2017 01:51
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What is it with Libertarians liking old time governments? I just recently read some guy named Hoppe who fellated monarchy and Stefan Molyneux masturbated to the Roman Empire. "I want small government that will stay out of everyone's lives which is why I worship societies where the government could have come along and stabbed everyone in the face any time it wished." If you're sort of super Conservative/Traditionalist, fine. But Libertarianism still baffles me.
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NikkolasKing posted:What is it with Libertarians liking old time governments? I just recently read some guy named Hoppe who fellated monarchy and Stefan Molyneux masturbated to the Roman Empire. Because they're petty fascists and contrarians who put more thought into their morning pancakes then politics
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NikkolasKing posted:What is it with Libertarians liking old time governments? I just recently read some guy named Hoppe who fellated monarchy and Stefan Molyneux masturbated to the Roman Empire. Some of the really crazy libertarians want narrow government rather than shallow government; they're fine with government having basically unlimited power as long as it only uses it for collective defense and enforcing property rights.
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Mar 22, 2017 03:17
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danger-carpet posted:The reason Dr Green is not a salaried academic is partly because her ideas are out of sympathy with the prevailing intellectual climate, but also because her education was ruined. A child prodigy, she was the victim of a hostile state education system, and an unsympathetic college when she was an undergraduate at Oxford. She is uniquely suited to doing research, and could be making significant progress in several areas of knowledge if she was not hampered by her exiled position and lack of funding.  I'm a child prodigy everything is supposed to come to me easily without me having to do anything why won't anyone give me money to do my nonspecific research e: How did I scroll past this Celia Green's Horrible Self-Loathing posted:If you think of women as human, they are exasperating on account of their incredible feebleness; of course, it’s all right if you don’t think of them as human at all. Shame Boy has a new favorite as of 03:30 on Mar 22, 2017 |
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NikkolasKing posted:If you're sort of super Conservative/Traditionalist, fine. But Libertarianism still baffles me. Women are sub-human and driven by their disgusting ovarian oozes to seek paternalism you see 
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ate all the Oreos posted:
Celia Green posted:If you have looked at my blog (which has been running since 2006), you will see that I am still attempting to enter on the 40-year professorial career which I should have started 50 years ago when I left college. I am also attempting to build up my current situation into at least one university department which will provide me with the hotel environment which I need to lead a liveable life of progressive intellectual activity.
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My absolute favorite kind of libertarian are the whiny entitled ones that don't understand why people don't just give them free poo poo and an entire team of slaves because clearly they deserve it, since they're better than everyone 
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Mar 22, 2017 04:08
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Hoppe is evil and, on plenty of particular points, factually wrong, but he's perfectly consistent: he wants to protect the strong from the weak. Large central governments can get co-opted by the weak more easily than local-level arrangements put together by the strong, in his view; and if you're stuck with a large central government a democracy is more likely to be co-opted than a monarchy. Rule by local insurance companies is better than monarchies is better than democracies because property/authority rights are less transferable in the former forms than the latter; and this is amenable to justice (in the Gorgias sense) and economic growth (because security of property rights.) Trying to understand Hoppe (who's happy to extend to these sovereign insurance companies basically unlimited power to police personal, etc life) or the like through the stated values of more moderate libertarians is a recipe for confusion.
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Mar 22, 2017 04:58
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Also, my favorite commentary on the mental health profession comes from people who may have done something that results in involuntarily commitment and subsequent diagnosis with a personality disorder. Even the little bit in the quoted text makes me think "What did you do that you were subject to a short-term hold and evaluation?" because of its sheer rage.
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Honestly I've been committed before and (at least in the US) it sucks, tends to be hugely underfunded and completely overlooked by society and there's a lot of ethical problems with it but none of that is what this person brought up so yeah this is totally "they made me go to group therapy those fascists!!!"
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Mar 22, 2017 06:12
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danger-carpet posted:Is anybody here familiar with Celia Green? Seems like another thinker for the Evola/Randroid crowd. That quote from her site reads like an understated RationalWiki pisstake. I should add her to the RW to do list, but having trouble thinking of a concise reason as to why.
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divabot posted:That quote from her site reads like an understated RationalWiki pisstake. I should add her to the RW to do list, but having trouble thinking of a concise reason as to why. How concise is concise? Because Together with some academic associates Dr Green runs Oxford Forum, an organisation which was set up to oppose increasing ideological bias in mainstream academia, and to be a centre for the expression of dissenting ideas in philosophy, psychology and other academic fields. Dr Green currently holds no salaried academic position, a situation her associates regard as profoundly anomalous and unjust. One of the purposes of Oxford Forum is to reinstate her in the academic world. The reason Dr Green is not a salaried academic is partly because her ideas are out of sympathy with the prevailing intellectual climate, but also because her education was ruined. A child prodigy, she was the victim of a hostile state education system, and an unsympathetic college when she was an undergraduate at Oxford. She is uniquely suited to doing research, and could be making significant progress in several areas of knowledge if she was not hampered by her exiled position and lack of funding.
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Peel posted:How concise is concise? Because Together with some academic associates Dr Green runs Oxford Forum, an organisation which was set up to oppose increasing ideological bias in mainstream academia, and to be a centre for the expression of dissenting ideas in philosophy, psychology and other academic fields. "doing research"
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Mar 22, 2017 13:19
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She can research my anus
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Samovar posted:"doing research" Still my absolute favorite part. "Why won't people just give me money to 'do research' like i deserve, i'm a loving child prodigy!!!"
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Does research, in this case, mean looking up screeds by other DE types and regurgitating them in new screeds?
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So I was looking at RationalWiki which has expanded pages for some of my "favorites." The page on Sargon now has a video of him saying to fellow faux-liberal Dave Rubin that "There's is no denying that Black people on average have a lower distribution of a lower distribution of IQ " https://youtu.be/siLeJOIxYVM?t=34m30s I knew misogyny generally goes hand-in-hand with racism but this level of honesty from Carl about his ideas is surprising.
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NikkolasKing posted:"There's is no denying that Black people on average have a lower distribution of IQ " Cingulate probably agrees with this, though, right? (If by "on average have a lower distribution" is taken to mean basically the findings outlined in The Bell Curve.)
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Yeah, the actual measured distribution isn't particularly controversial; the relevant points of contention are etiology (genetics, nutrition, stereotype threat, whatever) and how successfully IQ measures track in-world reasoning capabilities, whether g makes sense theoretically, and so on. The case for a genetic etiology seems pretty weak to me in light of the facts that (1) we know that {whatever standardized tests measure} tend to go up among populations over time, most plausibly connected in some way with economic development, (2) black-white standardized tests have been converging for a while, and were converging more rapidly when their economic positions were converging more rapidly, and (3) finding intelligence-linked SNPs seems to have been a pretty huge dud so far (unless this has massively changed in the last year or so?) (The Flynn effect stuff also seems to urge caution on the "standardized tests really meaningfully measure in-world reasoning capabilities" front, since past generations, and people in many less-developed countries, should barely be able to tie their shoes.) The main thing that gets trotted out in favor, the 50-80% heritability number, mostly seems to elide between the connotative and denotative meaning of heritability.
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ikanreed posted:Does research, in this case, mean looking up screeds by other DE types and regurgitating them in new screeds? Speaking of which.... quote:A scandal is brewing in academia. The photo accompanying a recent Atlantic article depicts Jason Reza Jorjani, who received a PhD in philosophy from Stony Brook University, embracing Richard Spencer, the white nationalist who coined the term alt-right back in 2010. It's like today's nazis are actually determined to live up to every ridiculous stereotype that's formed about them since WWII, right up to the Indiana Jones stuff. I actually kind of hope Peter Thiel finances some of these people, so he can very publically blow his fortune on treasure quests or whatever.
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These guys want to be the Wolfenstein nazis (The tesla zombie variants) so hard.
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Sax Solo posted:********* probably agrees with this, though, right? (If by "on average have a lower distribution" is taken to mean basically the findings outlined in The Bell Curve.)
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