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Well, I bit the bullet and bought BoI. I have never played it, but I love rogue-like games. Looking forward to lunch.
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Experience bars are bad because they encourage mindless grinding and give you the feeling while exploring that if you aren't murdering everything on the way through that you're gimping your character. It's totally at adds with any kind of spoken narrative and probably most unspoken narratives as well, ala "and then the noble hero, on his way to carry the request of the princess to the capital, dallied among the woods, seeking every forest creature to murder them as quickly and brutally as he could, and did not rest until mountains of corpses lay in his wake". I mean sometimes you do go out of your way to fight in BotW too but not to the same degree where it's just like "murder for murderin's sake!" The first two paper Mario games handled them pretty well though, when you come across a new area with stronger monsters you get tons of experience, then it peters out pretty aggressively as you level up so it doesn't feel like tons of grinding is meaningful at well. Cicero fucked around with this message at 15:05 on Mar 22, 2017 |
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Mar 22, 2017 15:00
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Cicero posted:when you come across a new area with stronger monsters you get tons of experience, then it peters out pretty aggressively as you level up so it doesn't feel like tons of grinding is meaningful at well. Isn't that how experience works in pretty much every game?
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Mar 22, 2017 15:07
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Yeah, but since Mario only goes up to level 30 instead of 99 it peters out relatively a lot quicker.
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Wheany posted:Isn't that how experience works in pretty much every game? It was more on a logarithmic scale with Paper Mario from what I remember (or exponential depending which direction you want to look at it from.) I think it worked out that after a few levels, grinding the monsters that were closest to your level was basically the same as grinding level 1 monsters and nearly impossible in that it'd take hours and hours and hours to get a single level, not the normal scale of how things work. Pretend that the level 48 monsters give 1000xp. It'd be something like 48-49: 10000xp 49-50: 15000xp 50-51: 25000xp 51-52: 500000000xp and the level 51 monsters would give out something like 50000000xp. But you couldn't physically get to them early to powerlevel before it. Or I'm grossly misremembering. Probably that.
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Can't wait for a fallout to appear on a switch and suddenly experience points are the favorite thing of all Nintendo fans. I forgot you guys live 10 years in the past. But hey, Fallout 3 came out in 07 so!!
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Mar 22, 2017 15:16
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Anyone using a dock sleeve notice any heating issues the extra fabric brings? Was thinking of picking one up but am worried of melting.
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Mar 22, 2017 15:15
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While I agree BoTW doesn't necessarily need a leveling system, I have found myself skipping most sidequests since so many of them seem to give you very little in the way of rewards.
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Mar 22, 2017 15:17
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It would never get hit enough to cause you to melt, and even if it did you would be long dead by that point.
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Mar 22, 2017 15:16
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Also while BoI is kinda fun I find it hard to justify spending $49.99 on a game I got for free on PS+ a few months ago.
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robodex posted:While I agree BoTW doesn't necessarily need a leveling system, I have found myself skipping most sidequests since so many of them seem to give you very little in the way of rewards. I do side quests to interact more with the world. I want to hear what people have to say. I don't really care if giving them bugs gives me rupees.
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Mar 22, 2017 15:20
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robodex posted:Also while BoI is kinda fun I find it hard to justify spending $49.99 on a game I got for free on PS+ a few months ago. BoI: Rebirth was a PS+ game in November 2014, and Afterbirth+ is practically a brand new experience.
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Mar 22, 2017 15:22
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My lazy rear end still hasn't gone out and got BoI. I'm a failure.
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Mar 22, 2017 15:23
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Andrast posted:Things that are minor things to you might not be minor things to them and they might not enjoy the great things in the game as much. People have different tastes. Look, I'm not saying that none of the complaints that people have about the game are valid, but you have to admit that complaining that the load times add up over the course of a 100+ hour game and that the guy who expands your inventory does so with maracas is reaching quite a bit for something to complain about.
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Mar 22, 2017 15:23
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You're nitpicking his nitpicking my dude
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Mar 22, 2017 15:24
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Revol posted:
I like the dick slot where I could rest my dick
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Mar 22, 2017 15:30
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Seriously though it's a real cool thing but joycons in a controller is just wrong
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Mar 22, 2017 15:30
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Why is your dick a triangle
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Mommy why is that man like that
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Mar 22, 2017 15:32
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Zelda seriously doesn't have an experience bar? Then what has kept me playing for like four pro controller recharge cycles 
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Mar 22, 2017 15:32
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It's the triforce of power
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Mar 22, 2017 15:32
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Dr Cheeto posted:Why is your dick a triangle is it not supposed to be?
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Mar 22, 2017 15:32
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Dr Cheeto posted:Why is your dick a triangle ...you mean your dick isn't? Stop making me feel like a weirdo
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Mar 22, 2017 15:32
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Also seems to me that It'd be a lot easier to burn out on something playing it for 10-12 hours a day every day for over a week, as opposed to an hour or two every day or so for a month. I see this with books too. When a new book comes out, often the super-fast bingers and skimmers who finish it that night are some of the harshest reviewers, while people who spread it out over more time are able to contextualize and see past any flaws in the writer's style.
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I just really hope Breath of the Wild 2: Gasp of the Savage improves on the original's tired formula by introducing factions, motorized vehicles, experience points and objective marker arrows all over the place
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Drunk Tomato posted:Also seems to me that It'd be a lot easier to burn out on something playing it for 10-12 hours a day every day for over a week, as opposed to an hour or two every day or so for a month. uh what.
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Tijuana Bibliophile posted:I just really hope Breath of the Wild 2: Gasp of the Savage improves on the original's tired formula by introducing factions, motorized vehicles, experience points and objective marker arrows all over the place
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VideoGames posted:
Nah I didn't mean to sound like you were targeting me or leaving me specifically left out. Sorry about that. Wheany posted:Isn't that how experience works in pretty much every game? Systematically, it's how a lot of games worked naturally since higher levels -> more exp, which then begets more exp -> fight tougher enemies. Specific to the Paper Mario example though, is that exp can actually scale so that the same enemies you fight give less EXP when you are higher leveled. There are still a lot of other RPGs that do this, but it is currently not used as much. Not to mention that you don't even need to grind a lot of RPGs with experience points anyways, so that complaint is still weird... Takoluka posted:I do side quests to interact more with the world. I want to hear what people have to say. I don't really care if giving them bugs gives me rupees. Yeah, basically this. Sidequests imo are at their best when they enrich the world and characters (which is also one of my complaints, since I personally didn't find enough of the sidequests engaging or fulfilling, much like the Bunnyhop video pointed out).
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Mar 22, 2017 15:42
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Wheany posted:Isn't that how experience works in pretty much every game?
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Norns posted:The towers. They should add a thousand dots on your mini map when you climb them. Yeah i've done every objective marker on my map already so I'm waiting for the DLC
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Mar 22, 2017 15:45
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Tijuana Bibliophile posted:Zelda seriously doesn't have an experience bar? Then what has kept me playing for like four pro controller recharge cycles it's because you like a Nintendo that means you're living ten years in the past which means *faaaaaaaaarrrrrt*
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Cicero posted:It was far more drastic in Paper Mario. From what I remember it was common to see something like, you go to a new area and a new monster gives you 4XP, then you level up once and it gives you 2XP, then you level up again and it gives you 1XP, you level up again and it gives you nothing. They always gave 1. You always need a hundred exp. So yeah, 100 fights per level if you really wanted to grind
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I just can't believe an originally 5 dollar game is now 50 dollars Blow me, Binding of Isaac
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Spellman posted:I just can't believe an originally 5 dollar game is now 50 dollars Isn't street fighter 2 going to be like $50?
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Cicero posted:you level up again and it gives you nothing. Worst. Game. Ever. If I want to run in a circle in the starting area, squishing mangy rats for 2 years grinding my character to level 99, the game should let me.
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I managed to pick up a Switch at the Nintendo Store yesterday, I'm pretty excited to finally get some Zelda action. So is there a consensus on the best cable/adapter to get if I just want to be able to easily charge my Switch with either USB or AC on the go? Also does anyone have any strong case opinions?
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Empress Brosephine posted:Can't wait for a fallout to appear on a switch and suddenly experience points are the favorite thing of all Nintendo fans. I forgot you guys live 10 years in the past. But hey, Fallout 3 came out in 07 so!! If Fallout is your measure of a good game then 
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Norns posted:The towers. They should add a thousand dots on your mini map when you climb them. I want them to add the ability to swan dive 1000 meters off a tower into a small haycart.
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Spellman posted:I just can't believe an originally 5 dollar game is now 50 dollars Rebirth isn't a $5 game and the switch edition also has multiple expansions added.
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Norns posted:The towers. They should add a thousand dots on your mini map when you climb them. Thankfully Nintendo saw fit to have us create the dots on our mini-maps and have the opportunity to miss stuff instead of automatically giving us the dots.
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