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Policenaut posted:Thankfully Nintendo saw fit to have us create the dots on our mini-maps and have the opportunity to miss stuff instead of automatically giving us the dots. Yeah gently caress exploration. I like to straight line to everything in open world games.
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shortspecialbus posted:It was more on a logarithmic scale with Paper Mario from what I remember (or exponential depending which direction you want to look at it from.) I think it worked out that after a few levels, grinding the monsters that were closest to your level was basically the same as grinding level 1 monsters and nearly impossible in that it'd take hours and hours and hours to get a single level, not the normal scale of how things work. drat, that really makes grinding not worth your while, like the game wants you at a certain level for balance with the illusion of freedom. Hell in Mario and Luigi (3)ds games the enemies don't respawn with no random battle. Some of them at least I haven't played them all. So you can clear areas to be the max level but you can never overlevel. Seems like a continuation of that philosophy without the math and possibility to brute force it.
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Norns posted:Yeah gently caress exploration. I like to straight line to everything in open world games. I liked exploring in Breath of the Wild too.
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Mar 22, 2017 16:08
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Policenaut posted:I liked exploring in Breath of the Wild too. Good!
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Mar 22, 2017 16:10
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irlZaphod posted:I hope no Fallout games come to the Nintendo Switch because Fallout 4 was pretty dull and bad. New Vegas was good in spite of the terrible gameplay and lovely engine. The first two are supposed to be good but lol if you've tried to play them for the first time in the past decade.
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Mar 22, 2017 16:12
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I want Nintendo to go full Nintendo and release some joycon pros. Gimme some big loving grips and sticks in handheld mode. Like that big rear end 3ds attachment for monster Hunter.
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Mar 22, 2017 16:14
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Policenaut posted:I liked exploring in Breath of the Wild too. This is literally all I do. I have only done one major dungeon/beast. I get sidetracked by just wandering around like a hunter/gatherer. It's great.
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Mar 22, 2017 16:16
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Cool let's go explore and look at some interesting geometry I guess. Maybe you'll find a shrine but that's it. It's not like Skyrim where you can find a town and quests. At most you'll find a enemy camp and have to slog through the boring combat once again.
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Empress Brosephine posted:Cool let's go explore and look at some interesting geometry I guess. Maybe you'll find a shrine but that's it. It's not like Skyrim where you can find a town and quests. At most you'll find a enemy camp and have to slog through the boring combat once again. Stop trolling.
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Mar 22, 2017 16:22
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Empress Brosephine posted:Cool let's go explore and look at some interesting geometry I guess. Maybe you'll find a shrine but that's it. It's not like Skyrim where you can find a town and quests. At most you'll find a enemy camp and have to slog through the boring combat once again. This is a good bit.
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Mar 22, 2017 16:23
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Zelda has the most interesting geometry. It's got angles. It's got shapes. It's got, fuckin... Parabolas and poo poo. It's got everything.
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Mar 22, 2017 16:23
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Thom P. Tiers posted:This is literally all I do. I have only done one major dungeon/beast. I get sidetracked by just wandering around like a hunter/gatherer. It's great. I put 50+ hours into BotW before I even went to the second major dungeon/beast. Shrine hunting has been really fun.
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Mar 22, 2017 16:30
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"No mans sky is a poo poo game there's nothing to do!!" - said while looking at trees in Zelda
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Mar 22, 2017 16:37
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Tijuana Bibliophile posted:I just really hope Breath of the Wild 2: Gasp of the Savage improves on the original's tired formula by introducing factions, motorized vehicles, experience points and objective marker arrows all over the place It almost had at least one of those things. 
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Empress Brosephine posted:Cool let's go explore and look at some interesting geometry I guess. Maybe you'll find a shrine but that's it. It's not like Skyrim where you can find a town and quests. At most you'll find a enemy camp and have to slog through the boring combat once again. Skyrim is the only game that put me to sleep while playing it in the middle of the day
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VideoGames posted:The problem with Zelda reviews and the reactions to them is the same problem the world is currently locked within. You're too good for this forum VideoGames.
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whaley posted:Skyrim is the only game that put me to sleep while playing it in the middle of the day I don't get that everywhere I look people say how terrible Skyrim was. I platinumed that poo poo and loved every minute, and back in 2011 everyone else was wild about it too. I'm looking forward to doing a more casual playthrough on the go with the dlc where I make a character who just does one thing in particular instead of everything.
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I like Skyrim and Breath of the Wild Fallout 4 is bad
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Raserys posted:I like Skyrim and Breath of the Wild I agree, but New Vegas is amazing. The floating brain DLC is especially good.
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Mar 22, 2017 16:47
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New Vegas is cool and good and even better when you play it on the personal computer.
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Was someone in this thread saying New Vegas was bad???
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Skyrim is fine. Fallout 3 was ok. Haven't played New Vegas (I bought it in a Steam sale while drunk though, I think  ). Fallout 4 was really disappointing.
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New Vegas is lauded for the best stories in the series. Its DLC's can be REALLY poo poo though.Bag of Sun Chips posted:I put 50+ hours into BotW before I even went to the second major dungeon/beast. Shrine hunting has been really fun. Yeah, once I did one and realized how amazing the reward was immediately did the next 2, then I held of on the 4th until I "cleared" (thought I cleared) every other area in the world. Didn't want the game to end. Started playing Horizon Zero dawn now and I am getting pissed that I cant climb everything. But I did turn off navigation and markers to make it more BotWie Breath of the Wild is the spiritual opposite of the "waist high wall". Its special.
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Raserys posted:Was someone in this thread saying New Vegas was bad??? They're dumb as gently caress
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New Vegas was made by Obsidian or something instead of Bethesda, though
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Beat (but not finished) Zelda today. It's great, GOTY unless Persona 5 lives up to Persona 4 Golden.
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Spellman posted:I just can't believe an originally 5 dollar game is now 50 dollars I also can't believe it. Probably because it's not true.
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Soul Glo posted:Beat (but not finished) Zelda today. I've played a lot of GotY's this year and its on March. ITs a good good good loving year for games. Breath of the wild completely blew all my expectations away though. A unique and amazing experience.
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Breath of the Wild is exactly the game I hoped it would be, but I agree with Austin Walker in that I'm kinda surprised at the across-the-board perfect review scores, because I can see why it's not a game for everyone.
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Mar 22, 2017 17:12
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Every piece of the game is hand touched, I don't think Nintendo is going to be making another open world game like this. It must have cost a fortune, have you looked at how long the credits are? Most open world games use procedural generation or copy pasting of areas. The Shrine puzzles alone could be a $50 puzzle game. I hope they do, but it's going to have to sell a ton of copies to make it worth making another open world game of this scope and polish again.
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Tender Bender posted:Breath of the Wild is exactly the game I hoped it would be, but I agree with Austin Walker in that I'm kinda surprised at the across-the-board perfect review scores, because I can see why it's not a game for everyone. Not you necessarily, but a lot of people put stock in "Perfect score = Perfect game" which is kind of dumb. If a game is awesome and one of the best new games of the past however many years, it deserves a perfect score since a game literally being perfect is impossible.
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Tender Bender posted:Breath of the Wild is exactly the game I hoped it would be, but I agree with Austin Walker in that I'm kinda surprised at the across-the-board perfect review scores, because I can see why it's not a game for everyone. "gently caress weapon durability" is a super valid complaint. Especially when it starts with just a few hits. And "play 50 hours until weapons don't suck so bad" isn't a good counter. Maybe with a proper repair system that costs gems? Or if weapons lasted 5x as long. Its not good the way it is. Even though deep in the game I had more weapons then I knew what to do with.
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I've never really had trouble with durability. I'm always full up on weapons and having to toss them anyway. They are essentially ammo. A damaged weapon is just a free critical hit.
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Bombadilillo posted:I've played a lot of GotY's this year and its on March. ITs a good good good loving year for games. Breath of the wild completely blew all my expectations away though. A unique and amazing experience. Yeah, it's not even April and there's already so many good games this year
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Weapon durability encourages you to experiment with combat. It's good.
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The 10 = perfect thing is so dumb because no reviewer uses it that way and no game is perfect except maybe Tetris. If it bothers you that much, just pretend the scale goes to 11 or 10.1 or whatever.
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Nobody gets bent out of shape when an imperfect movie gets five stars
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Bombadilillo posted:"gently caress weapon durability" is a super valid complaint. Especially when it starts with just a few hits. And "play 50 hours until weapons don't suck so bad" isn't a good counter. Maybe with a proper repair system that costs gems? Or if weapons lasted 5x as long. It doesn't help that there's no way to easily craft new weapons outside of the absurd prices for the special regional weapons, so I eventually reached a point closer to the end of the game where I stopped fighting enemies because the only steady way to get new weapons is to either find them laying around or pick them up off defeated enemies and the idea of losing a Great Flameblade or a Royal Longsword in exchange for some goblin's stick with a rock on it wasn't a very appealing proposition.
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Bombadilillo posted:"gently caress weapon durability" is a super valid complaint. Especially when it starts with just a few hits. And "play 50 hours until weapons don't suck so bad" isn't a good counter. Maybe with a proper repair system that costs gems? Or if weapons lasted 5x as long. It's a valid complaint but it's also one that isn't necessarily an issue? In this particular game the "use weapon/get new weapon" cycle flows so quickly, it's very deliberate that every encounter you're able to discard and add something. I've had more weapons than I know what to do with even from the start of the game. There have been times when I had to use a cool sword I was "saving" for later, but that's kind of the point. It reminds me of Majora's time mechanic: it's fine if you don't like it and it's a reason you can dislike the game, but it's also a key part of the game's flow and for many people is a feature not a bug.
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