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Poll: Who Should Be Leader of HM Most Loyal Opposition? This poll is closed. |
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| Jeremy Corbyn |
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95 | 18.63% |
| Dennis Skinner |
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53 | 10.39% |
| Angus Robertson |
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20 | 3.92% |
| Tim Farron |
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9 | 1.76% |
| Paul Ukips |
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7 | 1.37% |
| Robot Lenin |
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105 | 20.59% |
| Tony Blair |
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28 | 5.49% |
| Pissflaps |
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193 | 37.84% |
| Total: | 510 votes | ||
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forkboy84 posted:Nobody bemoans journalists for lacking respect when they carry on doing their jobs and report on terror attacks. Instead we get Owlkill posted:Michael Fabricant on LBC e: 117 is the emergency number in Switzerland. Guavanaut fucked around with this message at 17:08 on Mar 22, 2017 |
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Pissflaps posted:They should have suspended proceedings ages ago. Why? Guavanaut posted:I bemoan them when they jump to garbage conclusions. The first 6 hours should be "here's what happened" "here's how you can stay safe" "here's how to find out about loved ones". The Beeb had Quentin Letts on over the phone, explaining what he saw from his window. His eye-witness testimony was very valuable because he described a man carrying "what might have been a stick". Edit: Apologies, I misquoted Mr Letts from my memory. Have found a transcript. The phrase was "He had something in his hand, it looked like a stick of some sort"
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Mar 22, 2017 17:04
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https://twitter.com/tobyhelm/status...%3D2583%23pti37
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Mar 22, 2017 17:04
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forkboy84 posted:Yeah, I feel like that's a different matter. It's not so much respect for a tragedy as it is respect for truth & decency & not stirring up xenophobia just to temporarily halt plummeting sales that you feel journos lack. Well, also they're a bit like vultures, I feel like there's something inherently gross about people whose response to a bad thing happening is to run up to it and take photographs of it and use it to get publicity.
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Mar 22, 2017 17:05
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forkboy84 posted:Why? Because people were dying and fighting for their lives in an attack on the same institution they were debating.
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Mar 22, 2017 17:05
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forkboy84 posted:Why? Perhaps it was a really sharp stick?
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Mar 22, 2017 17:07
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OwlFancier posted:She's got a fair while, even on the train it'd take a few hours to get to Scotland, probably longer knowing southern rail. If you're trying to get to Scotland via southern rail you're really doing it wrong.
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Mar 22, 2017 17:08
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Pissflaps posted:Because people were dying and fighting for their lives in an attack on the same institution they were debating. So, the terrorists win?
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Mar 22, 2017 17:08
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oh god those corpses on my screen were children peace out guys, hold your loved ones tonight
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Mar 22, 2017 17:10
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Dead Goon posted:So, the terrorists win? Yes, it looks that way?
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Mar 22, 2017 17:09
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Lord of the Llamas posted:If you're trying to get to Scotland via southern rail you're really doing it wrong. I dunno what rail it is that does the bit near London, just that it seems like all the southern operators seem to be in the poo poo. East coast generally works albeit costing far too much.
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Mar 22, 2017 17:11
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Jaroslaw Kaczynski's also in town, for the record, and is "safe" according to reports.
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Mar 22, 2017 17:11
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I can't get enough of are Dan
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Pissflaps posted:Because people were dying and fighting for their lives in an attack on the same institution they were debating.
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Mar 22, 2017 17:12
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Imagine if there had been a terrorist attack on the eu parliament resulting in dead civilians during the article 50 debate - do you honestly think it wouldn't have been suspended? Use your brains.
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Mar 22, 2017 17:15
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Spangly A posted:oh god those corpses on my screen were children I just saw this tweet: https://twitter.com/emmaclarkuk/status/844578406473912320 It might be true, then. Jesus.
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Mar 22, 2017 17:20
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Pissflaps posted:Imagine if there had been a terrorist attack on the eu parliament resulting in dead civilians during the article 50 debate - do you honestly think it wouldn't have been suspended? I think there is room for a perspective where, after an attack on an institution of democracy, maybe it is OK to not instantly close other parliaments/assemblies but allow for business to continue as normal, and that can not be disrespectful to the dead and injured. That it in fact sends a sign of not giving in to those who would rather end democracy in this country. I respect your view but it's churlish to think it's the only reasonable one. You can show respect in a variety of ways. Kassad posted:I just saw this tweet: gently caress. Horrible. Whole thing is horrible.
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Mar 22, 2017 17:20
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Kassad posted:I just saw this tweet: hugely heartbreaking if true
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Mar 22, 2017 17:22
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forkboy84 posted:it's churlish to think it's the only reasonable one. You can show respect in a variety of ways. You saw who you were responding to, yes?
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Mar 22, 2017 17:23
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forkboy84 posted:I think there is room for a perspective where, after an attack on an institution of democracy, maybe it is OK to not instantly close other parliaments/assemblies but allow for business to continue as normal, and that can not be disrespectful to the dead and injured. That it in fact sends a sign of not giving in to those who would rather end democracy in this country. I think you're working backwards to justify the decision that was made. I'd ask you to consider my question about the EU parliament and answer if you'd honestly expect Westminster to continue debating Brexit under those circumstances. mehall posted:You saw who you were responding to, yes? Stay classy, little cheerleader.
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Mar 22, 2017 17:24
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Looke posted:hugely heartbreaking if true I'm hoping that it's not because it's early reporting and so on. It's also not being reported in French media at the moment, for what it's worth.
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Mar 22, 2017 17:25
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Pissflaps posted:I think you're working backwards to justify the decision that was made. I think you're making an assumption based on everyone being as disingenuous as you, & that's very stupid because most folk aren't. And seeing how you never answer hypotheticals put to you, you've some cheek asking someone to answer one for you. But yes, if the attack had happened at the European Parliament, regardless of what was being debated there is an argument to be made to not stop debate at Westminster, Holyrood, Stormont, Cardiff, or anywhere else, because refusing to give in to terrorist threats & attacks is a positive message to send. As opposed to the peeling back of civil liberties that often occurs in the aftermath of a terror attack, which is a very negative message to send. I also think having this argument with anyone, least of all you, right now, is a stupid idea. I realise we're twiddling thumbs until some actual concrete news comes through but this is a stupid way to do it. If you can't see the argument I'm making, whatever, I'll live.
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Mar 22, 2017 17:29
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Pretty sure both Scottish and Welsh Assemblies have now been suspended
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Mar 22, 2017 17:31
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forkboy84 posted:I think you're making an assumption based on everyone being as disingenuous as you, & that's very stupid because most folk aren't. And seeing how you never answer hypotheticals put to you, you've some cheek asking someone to answer one for you. But yes, if the attack had happened at the European Parliament, regardless of what was being debated there is an argument to be made to not stop debate at Westminster, Holyrood, Stormont, Cardiff, or anywhere else, because refusing to give in to terrorist threats & attacks is a positive message to send. As opposed to the peeling back of civil liberties that often occurs in the aftermath of a terror attack, which is a very negative message to send. I'm not interested in reading yet more of your opinions about me. We've both made our position on this clear. I'll leave it to the neutral reader to determine which is more appropriate.
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Mar 22, 2017 17:32
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Woman confirmed dead, I'm guessing hit by the vehicle. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-39355940
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Mar 22, 2017 17:33
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Pissflaps posted:Stay classy, little cheerleader. You don't engender debate, you decree your opinion from on high then berate those who deem it their solemn duty to disagree with you.
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Mar 22, 2017 17:38
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mehall posted:You don't engender debate, you decree your opinion from on high then berate those who deem it their solemn duty to disagree with you. The majority of your posts in this thread are to or about me.
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Mar 22, 2017 17:40
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Pissflaps posted:The majority of your posts in this thread are to or about me. You say this about everyone, it's never true. Anyway https://twitter.com/BBCPhilipSim/status/844583028437516288
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Mar 22, 2017 17:44
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Mar 22, 2017 17:45
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forkboy84 posted:You say this about everyone, it's never true. No I say it about those that it is true for.
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Mar 22, 2017 17:45
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gently caress, this is just what I feared...
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Mar 22, 2017 17:48
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It was always going to happen, and it's gonna happen again eventually. The police response has been pretty drat fast from what I'm seeing, but London has been planning for this for ages.
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Mar 22, 2017 17:49
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Jesus christ, I was walking along that stretch literally 24 hours before it happened.
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Mar 22, 2017 17:51
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loving great, thats that then innit, mega double down on all the everyone who isnt a british bulldog rhetoric forever. I actually hope they were the IRA
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Mar 22, 2017 17:53
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Mar 22, 2017 17:54
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Mar 22, 2017 17:54
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Rakosi posted:It was always going to happen, and it's gonna happen again eventually. Well that's the thing, terrorism doesn't require big plots for the security services to foil. So far this is a fuckup with a car and another with a knife, both with the motivation to hurt people. You can't prevent that kind of thing from happening, you have to stop people from wanting to do it
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Mar 22, 2017 17:54
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Seaside Loafer posted:loving great, thats that then innit, mega double down on all the everyone who isnt a british bulldog rhetoric forever. I actually hope they were the IRA What an incredibly stupid loving to even think, let alone say.
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Mar 22, 2017 17:58
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Seaside Loafer posted:loving great, thats that then innit, mega double down on all the everyone who isnt a british bulldog rhetoric forever. I actually hope they were the IRA what the gently caress is wrong with you? you want the Troubles to restart because you find it politically convenient?
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Mar 22, 2017 17:59
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Pissflaps posted:Why?
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Seaside Loafer posted:Slightly less worse than being all the other brown foreigns as a macro group, your basic nazi oval office hates ireland in general enough already so not much of a shift and no reason to put 'Muslims attack UK, must kill them all' all over the moron press. This is hosed up.
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