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I really wish I put wild card tags under my war ham. I earned them with my archaeology of Bad Threads past, but never put them on.
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Just watched episode 4 and 5, hot drat this show goes places. And we've still got up to episode 13 to go! They should make a Miller action figure by the way. Goddamn he's cool.
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Mar 22, 2017 04:00
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I visited a Tyco (sic) Engineering plant last week and somehow resisted the effort to congratulate them on the Nauvoo.Heavy Metal posted:Just watched episode 4 and 5, hot drat this show goes places. And we've still got up to episode 13 to go! They should make a Miller action figure by the way. Goddamn he's cool. He is. Number Ten Cocks fucked around with this message at 04:05 on Mar 22, 2017 |
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Mar 22, 2017 04:01
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Dreylad posted:All that chat about the preview and nothing about Avasarala's smiling "Wherever I goddamn liiiiiike"? Come on thread! Look a few posts up!
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Mar 22, 2017 04:11
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It would be easier to avoid discussing book spoilers if we had a higher quality of show-only watchers commenting here. I'm finally watching last week's episode and there's a pretty obvious evasion by a character that hints at something that no one here has apparently noticed.  I can't know for certain, but I'm pretty sure I'd have gone "huh, that's noteworthy!" if I were watching blind. This isn't the first thing like that that gets no recognition on the thread. Anyway, good acting and writing by someone about a thing in this episode.
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Mar 22, 2017 05:34
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Heavy Metal posted:Just watched episode 4 and 5, hot drat this show goes places. And we've still got up to episode 13 to go! They should make a Miller action figure by the way. Goddamn he's cool. Alternatively you could stop being a huge baby and get a drat hairless cat with a tiny hat and a drinking problem.
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Mar 22, 2017 06:53
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AlternateAccount posted:gently caress this attitude. You're a dick. How many people have had the show completely ruined for them by posts ITT? Probably none. Take your own advice and chill.
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Mar 22, 2017 06:55
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Number Ten Cocks posted:It would be easier to avoid discussing book spoilers if we had a higher quality of show-only watchers commenting here.
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Mar 22, 2017 07:04
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Fister Roboto posted:How many people have had the show completely ruined for them by posts ITT? Probably none. Take your own advice and chill. I was, actually, so... Look, we've got enough people complaining. Maybe we should have some common courtesy and institute a flat out no book spoilers policy, since a) there's already a thread for that kind of thing, and b) spoiler bars clearly aren't cutting it for this thread at least.
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Mar 22, 2017 07:18
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Dreylad posted:All that chat about the preview and nothing about Avasarala's smiling "Wherever I goddamn liiiiiike"? Come on thread! Just watched it. I love that delivery. If the episode's Avasarala-heavy then I will be a happy camper
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Mar 22, 2017 08:12
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Enough people have hinted about and posted spoilers without warning about what I assume is a big upcoming event in the books that I am currently reading that it is severely annoying.
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Mar 22, 2017 08:42
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I also read the book reader analysis of events that already happened in the show and retroactively spoil myself of thimgs that Ive already seen You have ruined my life with your coy suggestions, paired with my inability to think
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Mar 22, 2017 13:11
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Tiggum posted:I don't think there was anything to conclusively indicate that the protomolecule was alien until season 2? I only knew it was alien because people in this thread will not shut the gently caress up about book stuff. If you just watch the show, it would be easy to assume in season one that it was created by humans. I too am dumb and have eyes of glaze, to notice Dresden speaking of the PM and noting that it is both extrasolar and something that is unknown to protogen Woe! If only i knew the meaning of extrasolar! If only I watched the show with my brain turned on!
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Mar 22, 2017 13:15
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Phi230 posted:I also read the book reader analysis of events that already happened in the show and retroactively spoil myself of thimgs that Ive already seen I remember when after I graduated from college my mom told me some stories about how her college experience was similar to and differed from mine. It ruined what had previously been a good experience. I shared my experience of despair with my former roommate, a cool kid named Seung-Hui, and he didn't take it well, either.
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Mar 22, 2017 13:45
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Book readers are good to have around because they're the only defense against an onslaught of blind inattentive tv watchers which, as far as I can tell, is everyone but me.
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Mar 22, 2017 14:45
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Gotta pay tribute to bae http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=888880825 That Miller's life also sucked.
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Mar 22, 2017 15:02
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Are you guys arguing spoiler tags or just no spoilers at all? I'm down with using tags
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Mar 22, 2017 17:12
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So if I say "The show is deviating so much from the book I don't think we will get to meet the pinkwater mercs." Am I book spoiling? I think it's a big change worth discussing that Ganymede in the show is about a refugee crisis where as the books was about a cascading ecosystem collapse. No, the book thread is not the place to discuss the show but until a spoiler show thread is created I think it is appropriate to discuss contrasts between the show and its source material and media.
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Mar 22, 2017 17:18
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I think having everyone fleeing Ganymede in the show helps feed the OPA tension nice and directly. Now there are refugees everywhere, eating OPA emergency rations, whose homes were collateral damage for the inyalowda coyos
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Mar 22, 2017 18:27
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Professor Shark posted:Are you guys arguing spoiler tags or just no spoilers at all? I'm down with using tags Spoiler tags are good. Hinting at stuff outside of tags makes you an rear end in a top hat. That much is clear to me at least. Are people actually arguing that someone posting, "wow, this is better than the book, where they did [x]" is partially ruining the thread for them? Because I post like that on occasion, and I wouldn't want to ruin anyone's enjoyment of this pretty awesome show. Is referencing the books at all bookposting? Personally I'm open to not doing things that bother other people, but it's not entirely clear what that is, and it'd be kind of futile for me to do something if most others aren't on board (which it sounds like they're not).
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Mar 22, 2017 18:28
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Eiba posted:Are people actually arguing that someone posting, "wow, this is better than the book, where they did [x]" is partially ruining the thread for them? Because I post like that on occasion, and I wouldn't want to ruin anyone's enjoyment of this pretty awesome show. Is referencing the books at all bookposting? I'm guilty of this but I prefer this thread to the book thread because this thread is more in-line with where I am book-wise and I've already, ironically, had major stuff spoiled for me by untagged spoilers in the book thread.  I don't see how "X is different from the book" chat is harmful, but I'll spoiler tag it anyways.
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Mar 22, 2017 18:42
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Eiba posted:Spoiler tags are good. Hinting at stuff outside of tags makes you an rear end in a top hat. That much is clear to me at least.
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Mar 22, 2017 18:48
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If people were actually posting major spoilers like "Miller dies" then I could see the point, but most of the complaints are about minor details, and treating them like major spoilers.
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Mar 22, 2017 18:52
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I don't post in this thread a whole hell of a lot, but I find it to be a very good and informative thread, especially by TVIV standards. I haven't read the books (yet) and I'm also a hugely tremendous piss baby when it comes to spoilers, and I think this thread has generally been really careful and sensitive to them. Surely there are more like me so I just wanted to pop in to say that. 
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Mar 22, 2017 18:54
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Haven't read the books and book spoilers that are behind labeled spoiler tags are fine by me, it's not that big a deal. 
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Mar 22, 2017 18:55
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I haven't read the books and I could care less about spoilers, but 95% of the book spoilers that have been posted here have been behind giant walls of black that are incredibly easy to avoid. You'd have to be really careless to a) stumble over them and b) remain hovered over them long enough to actually read the spoiler itself. This thread is good by TVIV standards and splitting it into a zero spoiler thread and a book spoiler thread would just give you two mediocre threads.
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Mar 22, 2017 18:58
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Blackchamber posted:Alternatively you could stop being a huge baby and get a drat hairless cat with a tiny hat and a drinking problem. I have a cat, I'm gonna do what's right and put some space moonshine in their mug!
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Mar 22, 2017 20:24
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I love theories and wish people posted more speculation and comparisons, even if you dun read the books and are posting about how things are different and how you wonder how they'll handle X thing now that Y thing is totally different.
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Mar 22, 2017 20:30
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But really, rewatch the scenes where Naomi and Holden confront Prax, there's some good stuff in there.
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Mar 22, 2017 20:49
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Number Ten Cocks posted:But really, rewatch the scenes where Naomi and Holden confront Prax, there's some good stuff in there. I was yelling at the screen during that scene that they were idiots not picking up on the clues he was dropping.
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Mar 22, 2017 20:59
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Number Ten Cocks posted:But really, rewatch the scenes where Naomi and Holden confront Prax, there's some good stuff in there. More than many shows I've watched, this show really benefits from rewatches. There a tons of little details in the background that fill out the characters, world, and connect the bigger story together. Things like the Coriolis effect on Miller's whiskey, or the French doctor on the rescue ship to Eros showing up as a talking head on TV the episode before. I'm certain I'm forgetting or missing other examples and that doesn't count the explicit book foreshadowing/references peppered throughout.
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It's perfectly reasonable for people to post book stuff REALLY CAREFULLY with an over abundance of spoiler tags, if it gets at all into things that aren't revealed. Some people have definitely demonstrated that. There are always a few assholes who just refuse to get it. I will fall back on: "...it's cool to mention things that have already happened and even discuss differences and expound on show happenings as long as you're not spoiling future stuff." I think a general rule of not specifically discussing upcoming events from the books is fair? I think most people who want to know book things just want to know MORE about stuff they've seen on the show or about how things were modified. This prevents spoilers and still lets us get into book stuff relatively safely. I can't see how there's any value in revealing upcoming plot points from the books in this thread. There are other places to get that info if someone wants it. Certainly willing to discuss how that's too restricting if someone thinks so. AlternateAccount fucked around with this message at 00:30 on Mar 23, 2017 |
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Mar 23, 2017 00:25
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I think background detail and stuff the show has definitely moved past is fine, but stuff like this from a page back is no bueno:Smiling Jack posted:Book Draper and several other characters realize that training at 1g and living at 1g are very different things. (wasn't originally spoiled.) Like, it's not a huge plot detail revealed by any stretch but it's unquestionably something the show hasn't gotten to yet. This, to me, is a dick move. Book readers drop in on discussions about the future of the show with an authoritative air that can totally rub people the wrong way because it short circuits fun discussion. Also in general don't be a dingleberry about it and if someone says 'hey you shoulda spoilered that' maybe edit your post, it's not that drat hard. Calling it out just tends to draw attention to it and make it worse, though. Someone is gonna bitch at me for quoting the above, I bet.
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That's a really petty thing to complain about. In addition to being an incredibly minor detail (like maybe a sentence or two in the book), it's also a known scientific fact. e: In the book they say that the Earth revolves around the Sun!!! Fister Roboto fucked around with this message at 01:09 on Mar 23, 2017 |
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Mar 23, 2017 01:05
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NmareBfly posted:I think background detail and stuff the show has definitely moved past is fine, but stuff like this from a page back is no bueno: 1. They say Draper is going to Earth explicitly in the show, as of like an episode or two ago. 2. Season 9 sneak peak, promo both have shots and scenes of Draper on Earth. If its being promoted by the show, its fair game. If its being said by the show, it can be fair game. If both, its absolutely without question fine. There is absolutely no reason anybody should be spoiled by the fact Draper goes to Earth for the conference. How do I know this, assuming I didn't read the books? Because the show tells me to my face, in clear and concise language. IE, "Draper you're going to Earth for a peace conference" -Thorsson. Not even to mention the promo or sneak peak
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NmareBfly posted:I think background detail and stuff the show has definitely moved past is fine, but stuff like this from a page back is no bueno: This is pants on head idiotic and if you consider that a spoiler you're a loving idiot smdftb
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Mar 23, 2017 01:20
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There are people who think trailers are spoilers. Spoiler culture is beyond stupid.
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Mar 23, 2017 01:24
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In the books the meeting takes place at a large oak table while in the upcoming episode which I've now ruined, everyone seems to have a small table of their own.
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Mar 23, 2017 01:41
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Phi230 posted:1. They say Draper is going to Earth explicitly in the show, as of like an episode or two ago. What is spoiled from the books is there is a specific scene where Bobbie has that revelation. It's an important character moment for her, part of her understanding that everything she'd assumed is doused in ridiculous propaganda. Bobbie having that specific revelation is not a spoiler because it indicates she goes to Earth, it's a spoiler because it's a specific thing that changes her character when she goes to Earth, and it arguably loses something of its impact without the full context. I wasn't going to mention anything at the time, but it was a kind of lovely spoiler. Milky Moor posted:There are people who think trailers are spoilers. If someone's emotionally freaking out about something, sure, that's undignified. If that's the kind of thing you make fun of, go ahead. But if folks are just talking about preferences, why get worked up about it yourself? No point in deliberately being a dick after someone says "please don't be a dick".
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