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if more of the ccp smoked more cannabis and opium i bet they'd chill the gently caress out and stop being so uncool
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Jose posted:Have you considered that opium is cool and good The dude is flawed but that doesn't make him not worth reading; it just means you have to keep his very clear political slant in mind while you read. basic hitler posted:if more of the ccp smoked more cannabis and opium i bet they'd chill the gently caress out and stop being so uncool
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Mar 21, 2017 22:00
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basic hitler posted:if more of the ccp smoked more cannabis and opium i bet they'd chill the gently caress out and stop being so uncool Or paranoid as gently caress.
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Mar 21, 2017 22:22
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That was it, opium, I was searching my brain trying to remember the thing I'd heard about Dikotter.
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Mar 22, 2017 01:34
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Pirate Radar posted:That was it, opium, I was searching my brain trying to remember the thing I'd heard about Dikotter. Here's his lecture on opium. He's railing more against the failures of prohibition than advocating 420 smoke poppies every day.
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Mar 22, 2017 01:44
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Catching up on the thread but I guess if my boss was cool enough we could tag team some girl. Am I making a bajillion monopoly bucks over it or is it just to gain "face"
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big time bisexual posted:Here's his lecture on opium. He's railing more against the failures of prohibition than advocating 420 smoke poppies every day. 'Opium Wars' tonight" in favour of spending the next three pages going: "No, guys, Opium isn't addictive at all and is no problem, really." is simply talking about the failures of prohibition. It especially stands in such clear contrast with "The Opium Wars" which is pretty much about the complete opposite because that's what matters but still manages to point out that "no guys, actually opium is pretty bad" which isn't a terribly unpopular position outside of places like TCC.
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Mar 22, 2017 02:18
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Glenn Quebec posted:Catching up on the thread but I guess if my boss was cool enough we could tag team some girl. Am I making a bajillion monopoly bucks over it or is it just to gain "face" "Face" is more important than monopoly bucks.
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Deceitful Penguin posted:You and I are reading very different lectures if you think that the man that decides to disregard "an examination of the complex political issues behind the yeah and what about this thing right
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Mar 22, 2017 04:32
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This guy deserves mad respect unlike the Cops the beat him. https://www.hongkongfp.com/2017/03/20/just-occupy-activist-ken-tsang-accepts-prison-sentence-police-assault-charge-will-not-appeal/ quote:Activist Ken Tsang has said he has decided to give up appealing against the five-week prison sentence he received for assaulting police and resisting arrest during the 2014 pro-democracy Occupy protests.
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Meyers-Briggs Testicle posted:how accurate is the hit video game "sleeping dogs" LentThem posted:hey Haier i need your indian food appraisal skills Imperialist Dog posted:Top Chuckles Reading that post last night reminded me to bring it up with Chaoshan Girl while we were laying in bed. I had said something about Uncle Xi being a piece of poo poo, and she said she thought he was good. I asked her what he represents and what he allows, and she didn't know. I started talking about Great Leap and the famine (mentioning all this stuff about the children), China's support of the illegal poo poo NK is doing or doing it with them, over-fishing by Chinese fishermen, land and water poisoning here, Confucian systems and China's 5000-years long history of controlling the people, and a few other things. We talked for about two hours and by the end she just said "I have such bad karma to be born here. What kind of horrible things did I do in my last life to take birth in China? I have no freedom to even think differently than what my parents allow. Wah, so bad." She told me how her relatives died during the famine. Her great-grandma died from stripping bark off a tree and boiling it, and then eating it. It didn't digest and she died in horrible pain. Her great-grandpa was called an enemy of the state and beaten to death. Their friends died usually from starvation or illness. One was so hungry she ate handfuls of sand, thinking it would at least make her feel full. It clogged her up and she died the next day. LMAO at this being 1960. A peasant in Europe in 960 would probably have a smoother life than a Chinese person 70 years ago. But you see, it takes a lot of work to raise up a billion people! Mistakes will be made! Jeoh posted:maoism is 70% good, 30% mao
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Haier posted:
afaik Maoism is particularly appealing to certain types of societies because he's fixated on peasants as opposed to proletariats. Maoists in the West are retarded guerilla wannabes, because that's the other third of Mao (tbf he was alright at it), but in developing countries he's a valid option because he's a big name socialist with more relevance to rural people. The other third of Mao is tea leaves and formaldehyde.
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Mar 22, 2017 05:46
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Rural people around the world seem deeply attracted to the worst possible ideologies.
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"On Guerrilla Warfare" is still a pretty influential work in certain circles. Though I've always been fond of "Combat Liberalism" because I used to take snippets out of it and post it over pictures of Ronald Reagan and Thatcher and get right wing people I knew to share it
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Mar 22, 2017 05:56
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Deceitful Penguin posted:"On Guerrilla Warfare" is still a pretty influential work in certain circles. Though I've always been fond of "Combat Liberalism" because I used to take snippets out of it and post it over pictures of Ronald Reagan and Thatcher and get right wing people I knew to share it
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Mar 22, 2017 06:08
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Murray Mantoinette posted:Me Chinese. Me play joke. I... vaguely remember this. Was the next line 'Me put Wee-wee in your coke'? gently caress, that was two decades ago and I still know the notes. JaucheCharly posted:XXXX manage to create an environment from the roots upwards, where dogma overrules everything. It sort of reminds of a witchhunt. For some reason, this resonates. WarpedNaba fucked around with this message at 06:29 on Mar 22, 2017 |
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Mar 22, 2017 06:23
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Haier posted:For 25 RMB that is very good for China. Even cheaper than other countries (like the US/Canada) for that amount. I would totally get that often if there was something like that here. The closest I have found in SZ is an 80 RMB thali 7km away that I heard was "simply not good." I am jealous. jesus 80rmb for thali sounds like lunch set prices at the indian restaurants here, I thought shenzhen would be cheaper if you happen to live near any call centers or IT places with a bunch of indians they probably have a food-guy they can hook you up with
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I don't think modern China is covered in Hong Kong at all. You don't start learning history until secondary, and there are two streams, Chinese and World. World History uses OK textbooks as far as I know and looks at stuff we would expect like "what were the causes of the First World War". Chinese history is pretty much "we have a million dynasties to cover, memorise every emperor, the years of the reign, every person we still know the name of, and every battle, and all that matters for the test is the dates and simplistic explanations of what happened." Edit: when they try to teach modern Chinese history it backfires spectacularly new Hong Kong history textbook posted:Your role is to play a staff from the Political Work Office of the Communist Party during the Chinese Civil War, persuading youths to join the People’s Liberation Army in a Guomintang-ruled district which has just fallen under the control of the Communist Party https://badcanto.wordpress.com/2013...ommunist-party/ Imperialist Dog fucked around with this message at 11:19 on Mar 22, 2017 |
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Mar 22, 2017 11:06
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It's pretty easy for somebody in a bad situation to seize on something that promises change and say "well, this time it'll be different" I totally understand getting into revolutionary ideologies if you honestly engage with the ideas and acknowledge their failures, it's people who gloss over the systemic weaknesses that Maoism showed in China who confuse me.
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Mar 22, 2017 11:41
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From my time in socialist circles, I can confirm that the million different factions of trotskyist, regressive tankie stalinists and miscellaneous other socialists are all uniformly better than Maoists. Heck, in some places, the Maoists merged with Liberal Arts Trust Fund types to form weird post-modern buzzword spouting types who are confusing and boring as all hell.
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Mar 22, 2017 12:33
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The final years of the Republic in the mainland were a mess akin to 1920's Germany as I recall, with hyperinflation, stacks of bank notes being exchanged before they lost their value the next day, and corrupt leadership. One cannot fault the populace for thinking "gently caress the KMT thieves, the Communists promise fairness for all, not more privileges for the elites". How were they to know they were about to be exterminated?
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Mar 22, 2017 12:33
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English language debate for next CE of HK is live now. Carrie Lam skipped it of course. https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1267455393340078&id=710476795704610
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lol they're going global https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2017/mar/22/bike-wars-dockless-china-millions-bicycles-hangzhou quote:The scale is simply stunning. In less than a year, Mobike alone has flooded the streets of 18 Chinese cities with what is thought to be more than a million new bikes. Since last April, the company has placed more than 100,000 of their trademark orange-and-silver bikes in each of the cities of Shanghai, Beijing, Shenzhen and Guangzhou. 
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They are really cool to be fair. They don't have racks like normal bike shares, the bike has a QR thing you scan to check it out and then you just leave it anywhere. The app directs you to the nearest bike with the GPS trackers on them. It's about the best idea I've ever seen in the mainland. It's also entertaining because since they've shown up, I've now discovered how many people here have no loving idea how to ride a bike or how balance works.
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How goddamn retarded do you have to be that your first instinct when renting a bike is to throw it into a giant pile when you're done, how goddamn anti-social can you be? This makes me legit angry since rental bikes are a really cool concept.
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Mar 22, 2017 15:46
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There are nine million bicycles in Beijing...
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China has 5,000 years of bicycle culture, don't you know?
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Son of Rodney posted:How goddamn retarded do you have to be that your first instinct when renting a bike is to throw it into a giant pile when you're done, how goddamn anti-social can you be? This makes me legit angry since rental bikes are a really cool concept. Part of the wonder of seeing a round eye on the wild is not just that they are tall, fat, and white, it is that they often do things differently from we Chinese, it is almost as though they are constantly looking at the situation and trying to find their own way to do something, rather than accept the solution the Chinese people have kindly offered them already. They must be very tied and need a lot of naps. I will offer the next one I see some tepid water. HAAAAALLLOOOOOOOOOOO
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The article suggests those bike piles are taxi or tricycle drivers (or the other rental bike companies) loving up the competition at night, which is still antisocial but at least comprehensible. I have never seen anyone doing anything like that with them here.
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Son of Rodney posted:How goddamn retarded do you have to be that your first instinct when renting a bike is to throw it into a giant pile when you're done, how goddamn anti-social can you be? This makes me legit angry since rental bikes are a really cool concept. China 2017: gently caress You, N/Got Mine
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Imperialist Dog posted:Edit: when they try to teach modern Chinese history it backfires spectacularly This isn't really that bad as a teaching exercise. The political slant is pretty obvious, but at you might get the occasional student actually looking deeper into why/how the KMT got outrecruited by the CCP, which really did happen.
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Was it in this thread or another that someone's co workers were streaming video of a goon simply working at a desk job via some app, and getting tips out of it? Whatever happened to that? Did the goon ever get a cut of the code money?
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Grand Fromage posted:The article suggests those bike piles are taxi or tricycle drivers (or the other rental bike companies) loving up the competition at night, which is still antisocial but at least comprehensible. I have never seen anyone doing anything like that with them here. The system simply doesn't work. It treats any and everywhere as parking when they are common areas for everyone. The companies is externalising storage costs on to everyone and the broken bikes are left to rot as most companies don't bother doing any maintenance and just pump out more bikes as that start-up money allows. Straight up tragedy of the commons. That's assuming they aren't just siphoning off the start-up money. quote:That re-education in part relies on a new system of credits to reward good behaviour and punish bad. Mobike users start with 100 credits and can earn more by “informing” – by photographing and reporting badly parked bikes around the city. “Once verified by our staff on the ground, the spotter gets extra credit, while the perpetrator gets docked 20 points,” explains Huang. “If a user has fewer than 80 points, the costs of rental are set prohibitively high.” It's the other end of Uber who externalise all the costs to the driver who effectively take out a reverse mortgage on their car and any change in costs is also burdened on to the driver.
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I saw this on the BBC and thought you should see it: Children dead in China school toilet stampede - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-39349653
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oohhboy posted:I doubt they are getting piled up by competitors, they are just getting in the way and they need to go somewhere. They definitely are, there have been stories about that, but city authorities are also doing it way more and the giant piles are probably mostly them. I know Shanghai started having cops go around at night and round up as many bikes as they could which they then threw into piles like this, wechat was filled with pictures of them. The rental bikes themselves are super common and popular though so they'll probably stick around longer than you'd think, and what'll probably end up is if the companies are making money on them, they'll just start paying the government somehow, but who knows if that's the case and they won't just be abandoned in a couple months. But I've already seen designated parking areas for these bikes start popping up around major subway stations and other spots as well, which shows the cities are probably in favor of this as well since they're up for any way to decrease people using cars to drive 5 minutes to work cuz cars are super cool and did you know I have a car I've never brought to the car wash once and I pay like 35USD a day to park it at my office when there are 3 subways and 1000 buses that connect my home to my office more quickly than driving would be? I bike to work almost every day and can vouch for the number of people who are really bad at biking and common "biking on a major road" sense increasing and that being hugely annoying, but them being parked has seemed pretty normal? Most cities in China have always had a lot of space designated for bike parking no one uses cuz bikes get stolen pretty fast if they aren't in a watched parking lot with 17 locks and chains on them, and even there it happens sometimes, so those are where you generally see these cuz there's no worry/liability if they get stolen once you finish with them.  Example of one of the bike parking areas I've seen pop up by a major subway station. Ailumao fucked around with this message at 00:11 on Mar 23, 2017 |
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Magna Kaser posted:But I've already seen designated parking areas for these bikes start popping up around major subway stations and other spots as well, which shows the cities are probably in favor of this as well since they're up for any way to decrease people using cars to drive 5 minutes to work cuz cars are super cool and did you know I have a car I've never brought to the car wash once and I pay like 35USD a day to park it at my office when there are 3 subways and 1000 buses that connect my home to my office more quickly than driving would be? what's even more infuriating than this is when you ask the person "why are you driving to work?" they say "its so convenient to drive the car" when in reality it is the exact opposite of convenient, it's a major pain in the rear end. but people have been told how convenient cars are for so long, and in usa they have cars and usa life is so convenient, do you know? so driving the car to work is convenient! i tell people the first thing i did when i moved to chicago was i sold my car and they say "because the city is so expensive and you can't afford it?" and its like "no because driving in a city is loving terrible" and they look at you like "wat"
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i had a talk with a guy in HR a few years back where he told me he wanted to move to usa because the price in eggs in china had gone up like .5 rmb. and i said i understood that is why he wanted to leave china, but what about that made him want to go to USA, and he just kept saying "well, if i go to usa, i won't have to worry about egg price going up" and i said "but why not go to south africa or australia, why USA?" and he was like "why would i go to australia" and i just had to stop the conversation
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You can't escape egg price inflation no matter where you go!
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Baronjutter posted:You can't escape egg price inflation no matter where you go! So one of those Egg Council creeps got to you too, huh?
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