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Guy Goodbody posted:This is how the Negan story ended in the comics The allied communities go to war with Negan, there's some battles and stuff, it ends with a big climactic battle at Hilltop. Negan and Rick are fighting, Negan seems like he's gonna win because he's got like 6 inches and 50 pound and an arm on Rick, and then Rick is like, "why are we fighting? This is really stupid. You don't want to farm? fine. You have like fifty goons, if you used your manpower to keep the areas between the communities clear of zombies, we'd willingly pay you in food for that service. You could be the corner stone of a new post-zombie world, but you're just killing people for no gain" Part of the problem TWD the telly show has had is TWD the comic is poo poo. I'm being harsh, as it started out fairly well, but following it up to around episode 100 it was clear that Kirkman is not a great writer, he is however very good at continually recycling a single idea, with paper-thin characters. If the TV show had been brave and totally liberated itself from the source material, it may have been decent*, but as it is there's so much that doesn't work, right down to the stupid loving costumes everyone has to wear, giving them the appearance of cosplayers at a con that decided to go and play in the woods. *Sadly Fear The Walking Dead proves that liberation from the source material isn't enough, you still need competent writers.
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Fear the Walking Dead was (is?) so bad that I didn't even bother to check out the second season, and I watched Heroes past season 1 so you know I can handle some awful TV.
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moist turtleneck posted:I can't wait for the next installment of Fear the Walking Dead: Trump Metaphor to come out All Mexicans are superstitious creatures, wedded to arcane death rituals and need whitey to come and show them how it's done.
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Mar 22, 2017 16:56
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moist turtleneck posted:I can't wait for the next installment of Fear the Walking Dead: Trump Metaphor to come out Bigass Moth posted:Fear the Walking Dead was (is?) so bad that I didn't even bother to check out the second season, and I watched Heroes past season 1 so you know I can handle some awful TV. I'm loving the progression of these two shows. FTWD first made TWD look like goddamn gold now TWD is so loving bad I'm starting to think, "drat, at least FTWD had ~*~NEW poo poo~*~ in it"
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I liked FTWD in the beginning, it was pretty engaging, but it rapidly fell apart. As usual, they don't know how to play to the show's strengths. S2's fixation on emo dullard Nick was as dreary as poo poo, plus not enough of the interesting characters like Strand and El-Salvidad who were the best things in the show. Ideas that go nowhere; it's the only constant in the TWD universe.
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Mar 22, 2017 17:23
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Lori 2.0 http://i.imgur.com/dZsfPf3.gifv
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Bigass Moth posted:What does the dude in charge of the hilltop do all day? He's just sitting around his office drinking. Can't imagine there's a lot of paperwork or management needed when everyone else just does their farming or map drawing all day. Why would anyone follow him? The workings of Hilltop are actually way more absurd than the Shakespearen king and his pet tiger.
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Mar 22, 2017 18:05
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They landed on those soft cushy tents
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Mar 22, 2017 18:10
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Mar 22, 2017 18:19
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Throwing a knife and getting it to stick in a piece of wood like that is super easy, the actress may have done it. It took me, a relatively uncoordinated kid, less than 5 minutes to learn how to do it with what was surely an inferior knife as a 7 or 8 year old. Now, how it comes in handy in TWD world, I don't know.
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A zombie cannot grab you if you disable his hand!
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Varg posted:lol is this for real, that's how they killed that annoying kid? Honestly it's worse than you can imagine, he out of nowhere turned into a psychopath
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It's to be assumed he died since this was a flashback sequence being described by the people that killed him but there's a chance Chris the dipshit idiot is still alive out there
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Sulman posted:I liked FTWD in the beginning, it was pretty engaging, but it rapidly fell apart. From the second it started and they had ninja-zombies that were sneaking around the US for weeks, I knew it was going to be poo poo Then they did a time fade over the interesting part and Los Angeles had a population on the street of 1, 2 zombies at a time because apparently the rapture also happened or something and it just got worse from there. The ONLY interesting thing is if they finally catch on that the whole show is a villain origin story. I'm not sure if they're aware of that yet. All the characters are hosed in the head, evil or crazy as poo poo now.
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Wait wasn't there supposed to be a crossover this season? Or is the piss drinker/suave Black man going to be on the show next season
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Blazing Ownager posted:Honestly it's worse than you can imagine, he out of nowhere turned into a psychopath This is something the writers of both shows do all the loving time and it drives me crazy. I remember first noticing it (how couldn't you) in TWD Season 2, when Lori and Shane had absolutely zero internal consistency. From one episode to the next you had Lori either being standard shrew or Lady Macbeth, and Shane being stand-up guy with a secret or weirdly deranged skinhead. There was no development or consistency at all, it just happens. Same with Carol now. I'm happy! I'm sad! Now I'm happy again!
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redleader posted:I like the GTA5 guy and the depressed old man savior who picks up stuff from the Kingdom. It's frustrating because the basic setup of this season has a LOT of room for a great TV show. You have: - An occupation plotline - A threat requiring an alliance - A whole bunch of new settlements with personality - Breaking the characters down to build them up again Problem is they are BLOWING IT. I know I keep picking on the time table of the show, but it's not because I'm picking on plot holes. I'm picking on the fact that for this story to work it should have been glimpses of life under occupation for at least a year. Daryl should have been in that cell for three straight months before even being let out the first time. Alexandria should be suffering, badly, from the loss of supplies; we should see famine and disease, get to know the people there. Again, there's a good show in there somewhere. They just have no idea how to loving make it. The framework is absolutely fine. Sulman posted:This is something the writers of both shows do all the loving time and it drives me crazy. I remember first noticing it (how couldn't you) in TWD Season 2, when Lori and Shane had absolutely zero internal consistency. From one episode to the next you had Lori either being standard shrew or Lady Macbeth, and Shane being stand-up guy with a secret or weirdly deranged skinhead. There was no development or consistency at all, it just happens. They take it to new extremes in Fear though, like holy poo poo, I keep saying it makes WD look good in comparison.. and there's a good example. One episode a character suddenly got a full head-character and went completely nuts. Just out of nowhere. Just happened. Another turned into a literal serial killer. One decided that zombies are like, one with nature and stuff, and literally roams and possibly even feasts with them. They're loving nutballs. Several iconic Negan moments.. the heroes did the same things. Yet the show seems utterly unaware of it.
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moist turtleneck posted:Wait wasn't there supposed to be a crossover this season? Or is the piss drinker/suave Black man going to be on the show next season You know it's really hilarious but of the entire Fear cast, smooth talking con artist mercenary guy is the best person they have. Like any of the others would destroy any community they interact with in a week. moist turtleneck posted:It's to be assumed he died since this was a flashback sequence being described by the people that killed him but there's a chance Chris the dipshit idiot is still alive out there I half think he has an emerging acting career and FWD was literally going to hold him back, so this was their way to write him out with the door held open. Here's hoping he's a smashing success in the film industry so his character stays loving dead. I don't hold a grudge against the actor, there is literally nobody that could play that character. Blazing Ownager fucked around with this message at 19:38 on Mar 22, 2017 |
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Every episode, 1) the calm, cool, collected and rational one experiences trauma that makes them reach the breaking point and do ambiguously suicidal things or hallucinate 2) someone who has been mad at the world for a pretty long says they are finally happy 3) the badass one breaks down in tears and can't go on 4) someone who thought they could never go on finds the strength to be badass Imagine one of those board games where the path loops around. The writers have the characters start out at staggered locations and throw dice to see how far which one advances. galenanorth fucked around with this message at 19:44 on Mar 22, 2017 |
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Mar 22, 2017 19:42
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galenanorth posted:The writers have the characters start out at staggered locations and throw dice to see how far which one advances. Actually it'd be kind of hilarious to see a total trash TV show where the writers room literally uses some RPG to roll out every situation You'd literally never know who was going to roll 1 and die
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Negan is going to find Eugene's Zork maps and accuse him of providing that map to Sasha
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Blazing Ownager posted:Actually it'd be kind of hilarious to see a total trash TV show where the writers room literally uses some RPG to roll out every situation There have actually been successful TV shows that were just adaptations of the writer's D&D campaigns
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Blazing Ownager posted:They're loving nutballs. Several iconic Negan moments.. the heroes did the same things. Yet the show seems utterly unaware of it. The Fear cast's lack of self-awareness is ridiculous. Smooth talker Strand and El Salvidad are the only interesting/not pants-on-head idiotic characters. After the main crew brained a guy that was trying to stop Cliff Curtis from murdering people and the daughter killed the closest thing the Hotel group had to a doctor, I couldn't understand why they were bamboozled that Strand refused to go with them when they were being thrown out. I would have also been 'Yeeeah, I'm not particularly close with them'. Both shows are like 'It would have been better if....' the series, but to different degrees.
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moist turtleneck posted:It's to be assumed he died since this was a flashback sequence being described by the people that killed him but there's a chance Chris the dipshit idiot is still alive out there oh well then in that case he's most definitely hiding under a dumpster somewhere
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I defended Walking Dead longer than I really should have and even I thought Fear was a huge mistake. The main show has more problems than I can count at this point but I still have fun watching it, as incredibly stupid as it is, but Fear lost me almost immediately. Strand rules, though.
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I thought until now that Fear the Walking Dead was a joke about how bad the show was where you just make up ridiculous and absurd plots and dumb characters and didn't realize it was an actual series.
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FTWD is what you got from AMC when they came up with an original plot instead of following a comic book. So, as hard as it is to imagine, TWD could be much, much worse.
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I liked the idea of a hotel group as someone that grew up in a hotel. You get people from all walks of life staying there, which is usually what they go for when making up some random cast. A lot of them are people that live there and have to pay $600/month markup over apartment rent due to bad credit. Rednecks in camo gear, retired Z-list band members, people from the city's performing arts center, a retired couple that were both scientists who worked at the nearest Department of Energy laboratory. The front desk worker had a good relationship with my parents, and it was company policy to let front desk workers order a free pizza from a local company they had a relationship with, so my family got free pizza every few weeks. I guess that's a tangent, though.
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Space Crabs posted:I thought until now that Fear the Walking Dead was a joke about how bad the show was where you just make up ridiculous and absurd plots and dumb characters and didn't realize it was an actual series. I think it's still on Netflix so you can give it a try and see how far you can get
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IDK I like FTWD for all the ridiculous dumb poo poo that happens, and the settings are all infinitely more interesting. At this point I'll take the middle of the Pacific Ocean over 7 seasons of "forest, and suburban neighborhoods within forest." My heart kind of sank when I happened across a comic spoiler and found out they are still currently in Alexandria in the comics. At least in FTWD they have pretty big changes in setting every season/half a season. And all the dumb drama and plot armor is entertaining for me. In TWD all they do is stare at each other and mutter some of the worst dialog I've ever heard in a TV show while stretching every other episode out way longer than they need to be. Also I heard in season 3 they're bringing Daniel back.
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This should be within the constraints 
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Fog Tripper posted:Gelato != Iced Cream Fog Tripper posted:It is loving GELATO  I spent too loving long making this .gif. 
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