Harrow posted:At this point I suspect there's a significant minority of gamers who don't actually know what "RPG" stands for and just know it means "game where you gain levels and skills and get stronger and stuff." When I was a kid and I figured out RPG stood for "role-playing game" while reading Nintendo Power's "Epic Center" column I felt like a goddamn genius.
|
|
#
?
Mar 23, 2017 16:33
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 16, 2024 15:27 |
|
|
Megaman's Jockstrap posted:MOBAs are good games. They're good at taking over the parts of your brain responsible for empathy and patience and replacing it with jungling strats. You ever notice how its called "jungling" but the setting is more like a temperate forest :thinking:
|
|
#
?
Mar 23, 2017 16:35
|
|
|
apparently destiny 2 is coming out this year after all and on PC as well something makes me think it's being rushed to market which turned out really well for ME:A
|
|
#
?
Mar 23, 2017 16:34
|
|
|
Steam gave me dota2 for free and it made me mad. Then apple one up'd them with free u2
|
|
#
?
Mar 23, 2017 16:36
|
|
|
It's been 3 years since destiny 1. I have faith that Destiny 2 can capture the magical moments of the 1st few months of destiny 1.
|
|
#
?
Mar 23, 2017 16:36
|
|
|
Massively Obnoxious Baiting Argument: Are MOBAs good?
|
|
#
?
Mar 23, 2017 16:37
|
|
|
VideoGames posted:Massively Obnoxious Baiting Argument: Are MOBAs good? This was only a joke BTW.
|
|
#
?
Mar 23, 2017 16:38
|
|
|
Lakbay posted:Oh I meant the vitriol about MOBA being a genre when the word was being first thrown around. That's right! I do remember that.
|
|
#
?
Mar 23, 2017 16:37
|
|
|
When I hear "RPG" I picture turn based battles and a ton of story. Basically Final Fantasy, Chrono Trigger, etc. When people say Mass Effect or Witcher 3 is an RPG I mean... I guess they're not technically wrong but I wouldn't have ever categorized them that way.
|
|
#
?
Mar 23, 2017 16:38
|
|
|
Destiny 2 is very likely to get a formal announcement later today, there was a leaked poster with a September 8 release date.
|
|
#
?
Mar 23, 2017 16:39
|
|
|
Help Im Alive posted:Name even a single bad video game, I dare you
|
|
#
?
Mar 23, 2017 16:39
|
|
|
Outside of Prey, Destiny 2 is now the game I'm looking forward to the most. I loved the first one.
|
|
#
?
Mar 23, 2017 16:39
|
|
|
Quest For Glory II posted:apparently destiny 2 is coming out this year after all and on PC as well I wonder how much the dance emote DLC will cost this time around.
|
|
#
?
Mar 23, 2017 16:40
|
|
|
Are destiny players excited for a sequel or are they mad that the "10 year plan" didn't work out?
|
|
#
?
Mar 23, 2017 16:41
|
|
|
Witcher 3 is, to me, the most pure expression of a roleplaying game. When I think RPG. I think a whole imaginary world and a the freedom to make non-game-mechanical choices. I think of the pencil-and-paper roleplaying experiance, and not the min-maxing tactics part of it. ARPG, or "action rpg" is becoming a term, which I don't really care for. Like, people call Bloodborne an RPG. some people think it's more of an RPGthan Witcher 3. Bloodborne has almost zero role-playing elements to it. I will begrudgingly call it an Action RPG because I prefer that to it just being called an RPG with no qualifier. Of course, my interpretation of the term RPG is heavily biased by the fact that enter my interpretation starting from pencil and paper RPGs. My definition completely breaks down in the face of plenty of games that are cornerstones of the videogame RPG genre. So I'm in kind of a tight spot. But I acknowledge the contextual difference betwen what I want to call an RPG and what RPG means in terms of videogames. I can deal with that. What I loving hate is the term "RPG elements". As in "call of duty has rpg elements". No it loving doesn't. My car has an odometer that goes up as I drive it, and a fuel stat that goes down. Does my car have RPG elements? No it loving doesn't.
|
|
#
?
Mar 23, 2017 16:46
|
|
|
MMF Freeway posted:Are destiny players excited for a sequel or are they mad that the "10 year plan" didn't work out? I think most of them are just looking for a lifestyle game and will happily move on to the sequel if it promises to fix the most egregious stuff.
|
|
#
?
Mar 23, 2017 16:48
|
|
|
MMF Freeway posted:Are destiny players excited for a sequel or are they mad that the "10 year plan" didn't work out? 75% of them are excited, 25% are furious that gear is getting left behind.
|
|
#
?
Mar 23, 2017 16:48
|
|
|
Macaluso posted:When I hear "RPG" I picture turn based battles and a ton of story. Basically Final Fantasy, Chrono Trigger, etc. When people say Mass Effect or Witcher 3 is an RPG I mean... I guess they're not technically wrong but I wouldn't have ever categorized them that way. And weirdly enough, the things that Mass Effect and The Witcher have that categorize them as an RPG probably keep them closer to the "role playing" part of the term than any of those games that you or I grew up calling RPGs (Final Fantasy, Chrono Trigger, and so on). I'm not doing much role playing in Final Fantasy, y'know? But I also don't really care about linguistic purity or whatever, and if "RPG" is more associated with "leveling up mechanics and abstracted battles" than it is with attempts at including role playing, that's just how it is and it's how things evolve. Like you, I grew up thinking of turn-based battles and leveling up and big stories when I thought of the word "RPG," so I don't have any real attachment to "RPGs must have role playing!" like some purists do. Snak posted:What I loving hate is the term "RPG elements". As in "call of duty has rpg elements". No it loving doesn't. My car has an odometer that goes up as I drive it, and a fuel stat that goes down. Does my car have RPG elements? No it loving doesn't. It seems like that term is dying out, at least. Either that, or I've done a better job than I thought of tuning out games marketing jargon. Now that pretty much every game has leveling up and skill trees in one capacity or another, it's not something that needs to be called out, so there's no reason to say a game has "RPG elements" anymore.
|
|
#
?
Mar 23, 2017 16:50
|
|
|
Snak posted:Witcher 3 is, to me, the most pure expression of a roleplaying game. When I think RPG. I think a whole imaginary world and a the freedom to make non-game-mechanical choices. I think of the pencil-and-paper roleplaying experiance, and not the min-maxing tactics part of it. Jone of this matters just use the words that people use so you can be understood
|
|
#
?
Mar 23, 2017 16:51
|
|
|
I want to make a game like Serious Sam but there's xp and upgrading your weapons but modeling guns in maya (I also downloaded blender but it's exactly as arcane) is making me want to die. I can see now why indie game developers do pixel art in photoshop instead of making 3D models. It's because making 3D models is a pain in the goddamn fanny
|
|
#
?
Mar 23, 2017 16:55
|
|
|
Harrow posted:And weirdly enough, the things that Mass Effect and The Witcher have that categorize them as an RPG probably keep them closer to the "role playing" part of the term than any of those games that you or I grew up calling RPGs (Final Fantasy, Chrono Trigger, and so on). I'm not doing much role playing in Final Fantasy, y'know? quote:But I also don't really care about linguistic purity or whatever, and if "RPG" is more associated with "leveling up mechanics and abstracted battles" than it is with attempts at including role playing, that's just how it is and it's how things evolve. Like you, I grew up thinking of turn-based battles and leveling up and big stories when I thought of the word "RPG," so I don't have any real attachment to "RPGs must have role playing!" like some purists do. quote:It seems like that term is dying out, at least. Either that, or I've done a better job than I thought of tuning out games marketing jargon. Now that pretty much every game has leveling up and skill trees in one capacity or another, it's not something that needs to be called out, so there's no reason to say a game has "RPG elements" anymore. Thank god.
|
|
#
?
Mar 23, 2017 16:55
|
|
|
My car is absolutely an RPG, every time the odometer levels I unlock the next stage of the oil changing minigame and then I have to talk to the inspection vendor for a new anti-cop charm
|
|
#
?
Mar 23, 2017 16:56
|
|
|
Snak posted:ARPG, or "action rpg" is becoming a term, which I don't really care for.
|
|
#
?
Mar 23, 2017 16:57
|
|
|
Palpek posted:Remember how the term ARPG was created in the first place? It's when people were mad when Diablo 1 was being called an RPG so a new term had to be created. Good times. I actually did not know that, that's really funny.
|
|
#
?
Mar 23, 2017 16:58
|
|
|
Snak posted:That Witcher shouldn't be called an RPG "because it doesn't have enough stats". Uh, how many stats would be required under that guy's interpretation, because 
|
|
#
?
Mar 23, 2017 17:00
|
|
|
ARPGs are Diablo. It's nice that every game wants to be an ARPG these days and we should all be accepting, but much like when your recovering addict friend says his new job is really gonna work out this time, we all know the truth.
|
|
#
?
Mar 23, 2017 17:02
|
|
|
CharlieFoxtrot posted:Uh, how many stats would be required under that guy's interpretation, because Those are modifiers, not stats you put points into. But yeah, I know. That person was a moron. edit: How do action rpgs and jrpgs overlap? Like, is Nier: Automata just an ARPG, or is it a JARPG, or a AJRPG? (I'm just kidding, this isn't a question that needs answered)
|
|
#
?
Mar 23, 2017 17:03
|
|
|
witcher 3 is a sandwich
|
|
#
?
Mar 23, 2017 17:08
|
|
|
I remember when Nintendo Power would always put Zelda games on their lists of top RPGs
|
|
#
?
Mar 23, 2017 17:10
|
|
|
Diablo would be cool if it actually was an action rpg
|
|
#
?
Mar 23, 2017 17:10
|
|
|
Cowcaster posted:witcher 3 is a
|
|
#
?
Mar 23, 2017 17:12
|
|
|
|
|
#
?
Mar 23, 2017 17:13
|
|
Looper posted:I remember when Nintendo Power would always put Zelder games on their lists of top RPGs In the course of my career as a vidcon specialist (my own coinage, spend it wisely), I have never seen such blatant and frankly, sickening ignorance as that exhibited by the "people" (if, in fact, they are homo sapiens at all, as their intelligence implies elsewise) that claim that Zelder is not an RPG. There is nothing that Shigeru "Shiggy" Miyamoto could possibly do to make the vidcon any more of an RPG as it meets every single criterion for being one, particularly that it takes place in an imaginary realm with a fantastical beastiary, the damsel/villain ratio is at or above standards, and that the core emphasis of the gameplay is on bedazzling all foes with impeccable swords and sorcery. Furthermore, this line of thought can be extended to all vidcons in which the player controls a character (hence, roleplaying), though I cringe slightly at the thought of such mundane vidcons as Madden being RPGs, as they do not even include exotic weaponry such as the tonfa.
|
|
|
#
?
Mar 23, 2017 17:14
|
|
|
Cowcaster posted:witcher 3 is a sandwich While we're at it I just wanna say it's total BS that 1 is not considered to be a prime number. It fits the conventional definition of a prime number, behaves exactly like a prime and until the 1800s was considered prime. The only reason why mathematicians stopped is because they didn't want to edit their definition of the Fundamental Theorem of Algebra to have the line "except just ignore 1 please." Total bullshit. 1 is prime, hot dogs are not a sandwich, ARPGs are like Diablo not like Horizon.
|
|
#
?
Mar 23, 2017 17:14
|
|
|
Diablo is clearly and Action Roguelike. ARL. That's what it would be called if it came out today. Oh god, I just realized that "Roguelike elements" is the new "RPG elements" Why have I done this? Spoken of these things... So anyway... video games are good. I don't think that their egos could probably ever work together, but playing Nier: Automata has made we want to see a collaboration between Yoko Taro and Hideo Kojima. Maybe like, instead of trying to make a game together, they could each write a game, and then swap them and direct the other one's game. That would probably be really cool. edit: ^ eh, mathematical definitions are just tools. Designing the definition of prime numbers to exclude 1 is more useful.
|
|
#
?
Mar 23, 2017 17:15
|
|
|
Lurdiak posted:In the course of my career as a vidcon specialist (my own coinage, spend it wisely), I have never seen such blatant and frankly, sickening ignorance as that exhibited by the "people" (if, in fact, they are homo sapiens at all, as their intelligence implies elsewise) that claim that Zelder is not an RPG. There is nothing that Shigeru "Shiggy" Miyamoto could possibly do to make the vidcon any more of an RPG as it meets every single criterion for being one, particularly that it takes place in an imaginary realm with a fantastical beastiary, the damsel/villain ratio is at or above standards, and that the core emphasis of the gameplay is on bedazzling all foes with impeccable swords and sorcery. Furthermore, this line of thought can be extended to all vidcons in which the player controls a character (hence, roleplaying), though I cringe slightly at the thought of such mundane vidcons as Madden being RPGs, as they do not even include exotic weaponry such as the tonfa. Hearing people say "Vidcon" repeatedly in Mass Effect Andromeda only added to the humor there. Snak posted:I don't think that their egos could probably ever work together, but playing Nier: Automata has made we want to see a collaboration between Yoko Taro and Hideo Kojima. Maybe like, instead of trying to make a game together, they could each write a game, and then swap them and direct the other one's game. That would probably be really cool. You realize this would probably cause a Cyborg Butt Singularity right
|
|
#
?
Mar 23, 2017 17:15
|
|
|
Snak posted:I don't think that their egos could probably ever work together, but playing Nier: Automata has made we want to see a collaboration between Yoko Taro and Hideo Kojima. Maybe like, instead of trying to make a game together, they could each write a game, and then swap them and direct the other one's game. That would probably be really cool. Can there ever be such a thing as too much rear end.
|
|
#
?
Mar 23, 2017 17:17
|
|
|
Aren't almost all games rpgs because you're playing the role of a character?
|
|
#
?
Mar 23, 2017 17:18
|
|
|
exquisite tea posted:Can there ever be such a thing as too much rear end. The ending to both games is that the planets they take place on are actually just each one cheek of a giant rear end.
|
|
#
?
Mar 23, 2017 17:17
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 16, 2024 15:27 |
|
|
exquisite tea posted:Can there ever be such a thing as too much rear end. imagine four asses on the edge of a cliff
|
|
#
?
Mar 23, 2017 17:18
|
|