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Majorian posted:Which ones are they, exactly? My uncle worked for Exxon during the Tillerson reign and he said he was a well respected, and competent CEO?
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Spunky Psycho Ho posted:My uncle worked for Exxon during the Tillerson reign and he said he was a well respected, and competent CEO? "My corporate overlord gives me lots of money, he should run the country"
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Spunky Psycho Ho posted:My uncle worked for Exxon during the Tillerson reign and he said he was a well respected, and competent CEO? Oh well if your uncle from
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Spunk I don't entirely believe you both a) honestly supported Bernie in the primaries and b) honestly believe CEOs contribute anything of value to society
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Spunky Psycho Ho posted:Who do you put in those positions instead? Priests? Career politicians? Artists? Socialists 
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there are unironic trump supporters posting itt but somehow mordor is still the worst poster by far lol
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Toadvine posted:Spunk I don't entirely believe you both a) honestly supported Bernie in the primaries and b) honestly believe CEOs contribute anything of value to society Correct! But I probably would've voted Bernie, or not voted at all if it was Bernie vs Trump
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Spunky Psycho Ho posted:Correct! But I probably would've voted Bernie, or not voted at all if it was Bernie vs Trump you would have decisively voted bernie in this scenario and you know it you son of a gun
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Also just as an aside it's possible to point out the flaws of a country/area without then immediately segueing that into "that's why they're ALL a bunch of dirty scum!!!" and I think you'll find that if you can avoid that impulse you'll get bogged down in less "you're racist" arguments. e: 'You' is meant in the general sense here before anyone gets their undies in a twist.
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Moridin920 posted:Also just as an aside it's possible to point out the flaws of a country/area without then immediately segueing that into "that's why they're ALL a bunch of dirty scum!!!" and I think you'll find that if you can avoid that impulse you'll get bogged down in less "you're racist" arguments. I think you posted this in the wrong thread, this should go in the London thread.
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Bulgogi Hoagie posted:you would have decisively voted bernie in this scenario and you know it you son of a gun Bernie could have wilted at looking like a strong leader, he was a nice ideal but obviously didn't pan out in reality
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Spunk you just made an enemy in me 
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Spunky Psycho Ho posted:Bernie could have wilted at looking like a strong leader, he was a nice ideal but obviously didn't pan out in reality bernie 2020 revenge run
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Spunky Psycho Ho posted:Bernie could have wilted at looking like a strong leader, he was a nice ideal but obviously didn't pan out in reality ..as opposed to what we have now? I remember back during the primaries listening to co workers complain that Bernie would be too soft on Russia and Iran to run the country.
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T.S. Smelliot posted:Poe the drummer? Joe Strummer? Spunky Psycho Ho posted:Bernie could have wilted at looking like a strong leader, he was a nice ideal but obviously didn't pan out in reality Why are you so sure of that?
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Toadvine posted:Spunk you just made an enemy in me Maybe he sacs up in 2020!
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hindsight 2020
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Majorian posted:Why are you so sure of that? My view of Bernie is that where Trump didn't let the RNC push him out, Bernie let the DNC railroad him, so as a leader that kind of bend over is not great
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Spunky Psycho Ho posted:There's a difference between "Intelligent, capable men who rose to the highest rungs of society" and "Corporate interests bankrolling someone for future political leverage" Actually no, these things aren't mutually exclusive. Nor are they binary, there are definitely degrees to both. There's no question that Clinton (Bill), Bush (both), Trump (all of them that haven't been disowned) and Obama (not Malik) sold the public out to some degree to get to their apex. The thing to realize is that this is a necessity for political power (see Three Rules for Rulers), but those who are genuinely interested in the betterment of society try to balance this out as much as possible.
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Bernie didn't want to get Vince Foster'd and I don't blame him.
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theperminator posted:And yet he doesn't need copies of debate questions ahead of time so he can have a crack team of "experts" carefully craft responses to each one why are you still going on about hillary and assuming i supported her
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Toadvine posted:Bernie didn't want to get Vince Foster'd and I don't blame him. This.
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Toadvine posted:Bernie didn't want to get Vince Foster'd and I don't blame him. If you cross the Clintons just avoid small aircraft for the next couple decades
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bernie 2020 would be perfect because america would once again be run by a geriatric like it's some sort of soviet party state lol
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Mordor She Wrote posted:..as opposed to what we have now? Wow, who woulda thought they had such strong opinions at Taco Bell?
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Krustic posted:Wow, who woulda thought they had such strong opinions at Taco Bell? excuse me, IT janitor, I get paid to read the forums and watch powershell scripts run.
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Mordor She Wrote posted:excuse me, IT janitor, I get paid to read the forums and watch powershell scripts run. sounds like you're gonna get hit hard by bernies 2020 parasite taxes
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Bulgogi Hoagie posted:sounds like you're gonna get hit hard by bernies 2020 parasite taxes  taxes don't bother me as long as they go to something useful that benefits society.
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Spunky Psycho Ho posted:Maybe he sacs up in 2020! I point out that it is technically possible for a "good lich" transformation, but as far as I know Bernie is not an elf... ...or is he?
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Spunky Psycho Ho posted:Correct! But I probably would've voted Bernie, or not voted at all if it was Bernie vs Trump Same, I would've voted bernie over trump but when I learned it was Hilary I instantly knew it would be rigged against whoever was facing her because the DNC is corrupt down to its black rotten heart
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Tallgeese posted:I point out that it is technically possible for a "good lich" transformation, but as far as I know Bernie is not an elf... I think he is a gnome
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OXBALLS DOT COM posted:I think he is a gnome Gnomes have the soundest economic and social policies
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Bernie Sanders is a gnome but he is not a practicing illusionist
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Mordor She Wrote posted:excuse me, IT janitor, I get paid to read the forums and watch powershell scripts run. Oh yes. I forgot that you're very proud of your computer janitor job. My mistake.
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Make fun of each other's trash opinions and physique but not their jobs, that's not the sick burn you're looking for
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Spunky Psycho Ho posted:My view of Bernie is that where Trump didn't let the RNC push him out, Bernie let the DNC railroad him, so as a leader that kind of bend over is not great I can see this argument. When Sanders stood down and supported his own loving people pick up on that and might not care that him raging would have helped republicans, just that he should have raged. The guy arrested at civil rights protests in the past for loving poo poo up who now has a message of political revolution is now campaigning for the person who was rumored to have stolen an election from him, and continued to do so once it was proven explicitly that the election was stolen from him. And has said very little since. It's one of the psychological moments like the Dean Scream or the debates where Romney proudly and smugly declaring and doubling down on Obama having said the word "Terrorists" in a speech before the moderator shut him down and he looked like a confused child.
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If Bernie wanted a revolution he shouldn't have meekly bowed to the establishment. The corporations call the shots in the USA and you think they're just gonna let some commie professor grab the wheel without a fight? They won't even let a gilded dick like Trump near the levers
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Space Crabs posted:I can see this argument. Bernie walked the fine line of campaigning to represent and reform the DNC, while at the same time being unable to call out the DNC for its poo poo Trump didn't care if he made the GOP look bad
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I don't think Trump is Hitler. He's more like Julius Caesar. Well, Caesar if he was an idiot, that is.
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Bernie rightly recognized he was up against greater powers who at the very least proved willing use an extensive media network to scuttle his presidential campaign out of spite, and would very likely have forced him out of the game one way or another if he continued to push back against the democrats. Bernie is a civil servant with a lot of progress at stake whereas Trump can do whatever he wants and if he loses so what, he never wanted to make a difference in politics anyway
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