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in the good old days people weren't getting paid cash money to play video games on the internet simpler times my friends
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Its called the free market of ideas, you commies
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Mar 23, 2017 23:20
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60 years ago liberals were blacklisted from entertainment for having the wrong political beliefs today they're doing the same thing to conservatives
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Mar 24, 2017 01:00
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Ein cooler Typ posted:60 years ago liberals were blacklisted from entertainment for having the wrong political beliefs lol if you're comparing video game YouTube people to filmmakers
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Mar 24, 2017 01:03
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WatermelonGun posted:lol if you're comparing video game YouTube people to filmmakers Remember Mel Gibson?
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Mar 24, 2017 01:04
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OXBALLS DOT COM posted:Remember Mel Gibson? hes a crazy idiot but apocalypto was good
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Mar 24, 2017 01:07
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OXBALLS DOT COM posted:Remember Mel Gibson? i remember when he said jews are responsible for all the wars in the world
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Mar 24, 2017 01:08
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OXBALLS DOT COM posted:Remember Mel Gibson? Yeah he was nominated for an oscar this year. Not blacklisted. Hacksaw Ridge was good btw.
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Mar 24, 2017 01:07
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Ein cooler Typ posted:60 years ago liberals were blacklisted from entertainment for having the wrong political beliefs
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Mar 24, 2017 01:08
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if you lived 50 years ago you would be saying "lol if you compare television shows to radio" get with the times, grandpa
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Mar 24, 2017 01:17
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Ein cooler Typ posted:if you lived 50 years ago you would be saying "lol if you compare television shows to radio" Mmmmmmmmm not really the same thing.
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Mar 24, 2017 01:27
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All those great conservative movies
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Mar 24, 2017 01:28
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it's like how that FCC guy when TV was invented called television "a vast wasteland" and we all laugh at how wrong he was that's how we will laugh in the future at people who say today "people who get paid to play videogames on youtube are bad"
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Mar 24, 2017 01:31
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a lot of good filmmakers are insane jodorowsky is fascinating because him and his four sons were like a little movie cult and he wore it on his sleeve like "hell yeah i slapped my kid and told him not to be a lovely actor but on the other hand the movie ruled and that's what matters"
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Mar 24, 2017 01:32
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Ein cooler Typ posted:60 years ago liberals were blacklisted from entertainment for having the wrong political beliefs Good
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Mar 24, 2017 01:36
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Ein cooler Typ posted:it's like how that FCC guy when TV was invented called television "a vast wasteland" and we all laugh at how wrong he was LOL it's still a wasteland dude just with better production values.
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Mar 24, 2017 01:39
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XMNN posted:in the good old days people weren't getting paid cash money to play video games on the internet Also fascists weren't literally running the country.
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Mar 24, 2017 01:43
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Glazier posted:Also fascists weren't literally running the country. gently caress Ronald Reagan. WatermelonGun posted:lol if you're comparing video game YouTube people to filmmakers Why is that such a laughable comparison, given how many filmmakers have literally gotten their start posting their work to Youtube? I also think it's pretty pointless for the Yooka-Laylee guys to publicly sever from Jon like that. I get why, and at least he's being gracious about it, but frankly I kind of think this will hurt them more than help. Jon was a huge part of the surge of Banjo-Kazooie nostalgia that got Yooka-Laylee funded in the first place, and he was a vocal supporter for the game; I suspect a few of his fans would probably refuse to buy the product now out of solidarity. I doubt it'll make a big impact, but I hardly think this was remotely bad press for it and I think their attempt to fix that potential bad press has potential to be more harmful. 8-Bit Scholar fucked around with this message at 02:04 on Mar 24, 2017 |
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Mar 24, 2017 02:02
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8-Bit Scholar posted:Why is that such a laughable comparison, given how many filmmakers have literally gotten their start posting their work to Youtube? It was pointless. Nobody even remembered that he was voice acting in the game at this point, the only place raising a stink about Jontron being in it was Neogaf. Mentioning that they were removing him literally just serves to piss people off and make people with no interest in buying the game (neogaf) thrilled.
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Mar 24, 2017 02:10
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lovely Wizard posted:It was pointless. Nobody even remembered that he was voice acting in the game at this point, the only place raising a stink about Jontron being in it was Neogaf. Mentioning that they were removing him literally just serves to piss people off and make people with no interest in buying the game (neogaf) thrilled. Or maybe not being seen as a friend to Nazis is also something they are interested in.
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Mar 24, 2017 02:22
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Glazier posted:Or maybe not being seen as a friend to Nazis is also something they are interested in. You seem to be confused as to what a Nazi is. A Nazi is a member of the National Socialist German Workers' Party. Jontron is an American who voiced an opinion on immigration and race relations in this country that a number of people strongly disliked. It'd be hard to mix those two up, but we live in a strange time.
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Mar 24, 2017 02:25
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8-Bit Scholar posted:You seem to be confused as to what a Nazi is. A Nazi is a member of the National Socialist German Workers' Party. You seem to be confused as to what the poster was saying. Jontron voiced an opinion very similar to and/or shared by many who self describe themselves as Nazis or neonazis. By distancing themselves from jontron, they are able to voice their dislike of the larger group of people who view jontrons statements as in line with their own you can tell because the poster you quoted said 'nazis,' which is a plural word, and while jontron is fat enough to seem like he might count as more than one person, amazingly enough, that's just one guy in there
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Mar 24, 2017 02:35
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i like how mcarthyism is alive and well except all you need to do nowadays is imply someone is a racist
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Mar 24, 2017 02:41
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Cursed Lumberjack posted:You seem to be confused as to what the poster was saying. Jontron voiced an opinion very similar to and/or shared by many who self describe themselves as Nazis or neonazis. By distancing themselves from jontron, they are able to voice their dislike of the larger group of people who view jontrons statements as in line with their own It's almost as if racists and fascists are trying to use pedantry about specific word definitions to appear not to be racists and fascists. 
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Mar 24, 2017 02:48
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8-Bit Scholar posted:You seem to be confused as to what a Nazi is. A Nazi is a member of the National Socialist German Workers' Party. Fun fact! "Nazi", while also being an abbreviation for the German word for nationalist, is now in English also cultural shorthand for that same word, which is exactly what chief political advisor to the White House and former Breitbart editor Stephen K. Bannon is! And as it happens, he and Jon Jafari seem to share strikingly similar views! Haha! Fun fact!
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Mar 24, 2017 02:49
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Don't get me wrong I love a good "are you afraid of the dark" candaian television excoriation video, but JonTron's political views are v bad. And simplistic to boot.
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Mar 24, 2017 02:50
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Glazier posted:Or maybe not being seen as a friend to Nazis is also something they are interested in. Are we talking Nazis as in actual Nazis, Neo-Nazis, or the new type of "Nazi" - anyone who didn't vote for Hillary Clinton? Because more than half the legal country voted against her, and I don't think we have half our voters consisting of Nazis.
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Mar 24, 2017 02:53
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lovely Wizard posted:Are we talking Nazis as in actual Nazis, Neo-Nazis, or the new type of "Nazi" - anyone who didn't vote for Hillary Clinton? Nah just about 23% of the country voted for him and we have that many Neo-Nazis/Fascists here.
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Mar 24, 2017 03:00
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lovely Wizard posted:the legal country
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Mar 24, 2017 03:04
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Glazier posted:Nah just about 23% of the country voted for him and we have that many Neo-Nazis/Fascists here. "23% of the country is neo-nazis" - Glazier Also a lil' note fella - not only did Trump win the legitimate vote, if popular vote instead of electoral vote were a thing, you'd have seen Texas and the other red states play a bigger part this election for the ultimately same final result. Shitty Wizard fucked around with this message at 03:09 on Mar 24, 2017 |
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Mar 24, 2017 03:07
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lovely Wizard posted:"23% of the country is neo-nazis" - Glazier Hey 23% is great for a country founded on brutal race based slavery and has only tried to enforce our civil rights for 60 years.
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Mar 24, 2017 03:13
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Jedi Knight Luigi posted:Don't get me wrong I love a good "are you afraid of the dark" candaian television excoriation video, but JonTron's political views are v bad. And simplistic to boot. I mean, I agree, but why the gently caress do people seem to think he should be punished for having them? Suffer fools gladly.
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Mar 24, 2017 03:17
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Glazier posted:Hey 23% is great for a country founded on brutal race based slavery and has only tried to enforce our civil rights for 60 years. I support not allowing people from cultures that heavily endorses treating women and homosexuals like garbage into our country unless we are 100% absolutely certain their only aim is to escape that lovely culture. We have enough garbage here. Make all immigrants entering our country kiss a gay man/woman of their own gender on the cheek, and shake hands with a woman. If they don't, then they don't get entry to the country. Do you agree with the above - Yes or No? If no, then apparently you're less tolerant than a Trump voter, and literally worse than a "Nazi". Shitty Wizard fucked around with this message at 03:21 on Mar 24, 2017 |
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Mar 24, 2017 03:18
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8-Bit Scholar posted:I mean, I agree, but why the gently caress do people seem to think he should be punished for having them? Suffer fools gladly. Because racist fascists see tolerance as tacit acceptance and do thing like, I don't know, travel to major cities and kill minorities. He is free to say what he wants, but that doesn't mean people can't rebuke home for it, that's free speech bro. lovely Wizard posted:I support not allowing people from cultures that heavily endorses treating women and homosexuals like garbage into our country unless we are 100% absolutely certain their only aim is to escape that lovely culture. We have enough garbage here. Make all immigrants entering our country kiss a gay man/woman of their own gender on the cheek, and shake hands with a woman. If they don't, then they don't get entry to the country. Nope, only thing I care about is their willingness to comply with and abide by the Federal and state Constitutions, laws devolved from them and valid court orders. Absent that they can believe what they want and act and speak as they wish. Now same rules apply to them as the new racist insurgency. Start talking some ignorant sexist poo poo and expect to be called out, but I don't give a gently caress that you're in the country. Gynocentric Regime fucked around with this message at 03:30 on Mar 24, 2017 |
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Mar 24, 2017 03:24
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Glazier posted:Because racist fascists see tolerance as tacit acceptance and do thing like, I don't know, travel to major cities and kill minorities. He is free to say what he wants, but that doesn't mean people can't rebuke home for it, that's free speech bro. Yeah but Jontron said nothing of the loving sort about killing anybody. What I'm saying is, people think he should be punished for it, and that isn't free speech. Rebukes or whatever, fine; if Playtronic legitimately wants to make a political statement by excising Jon Jafari from their game, then they are well within their rights to do so, but I don't really respect it. Particularly in the face of the fact that Jontron was no small part of the resurgence of Banjo-Kazooie nostalgia that helped feed into Yooka-Laylee's successful Kickstarter. He promoted the game and brought attention to the Kickstarter and while that certainly entitles him to nothing, you would think that there'd be a little more...something there. He didn't even say any of the stuff on his channel, he shared an opinion in a public open forum. This is what you are supposed to be free to do in this country, so why is it increasingly so that people can expect to be punished for it? It's a lovely thing to do, I think; we encourage people to speak their mind and be honest and true to themselves or whatever, unless we decide they said something we don't like, then we literally do not care if they live or die. The most assinine thing about this is Playtronic threw gasoline onto a brush fire. There was NO negative buzz connected to this game and nothing but hype. Most people had no idea Jontron was even a part of it. Now there's a story where immediately everyone has "sides" to take and there's immediate controversy and maybe some people will buy this game out of solidarity for this loving "bold" political statement being taken and maybe some people will not buy the game out of solidarity for Jon, but I can't help but think this only leaves a really sour taste surrounding the game on the cusp of its release. Which makes it better, that they decided to poo poo on this guy for no better reason than they disliked his politics, or that they did it to use his popularity once more as a generator of controversy to get more exposure to their title? I'm honestly not particularly impressed by either.
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Mar 24, 2017 03:35
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Glazier posted:Nope, only thing I care about is their willingness to comply with and abide by the Federal and state Constitutions, laws devolved from them and valid court orders. Absent that they can believe what they want and act and speak as they wish. Now same rules apply to them as the new racist insurgency. Start talking some ignorant sexist poo poo and expect to be called out, but I don't give a gently caress that you're in the country. That's garbage and a tacit endorsement of female genital mutilation, honor killings, homosexual brutality, and sexual abuse prevalent in Muslim society. You only care about injustice and disparity between social classes when you stand to gain something from them. Let the arabs keep killing gays and oppressing women, but MY pet cause is more important? A Nazi can at least sometimes be identified with swastikas or shaven heads, but you choose to blend into the rest of society until something affects YOU AND ONLY YOU. Learn to feel empathy and maybe you'll be a better person.
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Mar 24, 2017 03:37
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lovely Wizard posted:That's garbage and a tacit endorsement of female genital mutilation, honor killings, homosexual brutality, and sexual abuse prevalent in Muslim society. Show me a state in the United States where any of those things are legal? Go on I'll wait. 8-Bit Scholar posted:Yeah but Jontron said nothing of the loving sort about killing anybody. What I'm saying is, people think he should be punished for it, and that isn't free speech. Rebukes or whatever, fine; if Playtronic legitimately wants to make a political statement by excising Jon Jafari from their game, then they are well within their rights to do so, but I don't really respect it. See why the assumption that everyone should be too cool for school and political statements should be saved for "important" things. If calling black people genetically inferior and prone to crime isn't important enough to make a statement on then what is? Gynocentric Regime fucked around with this message at 03:43 on Mar 24, 2017 |
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Mar 24, 2017 03:40
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Uncle Wemus posted:Jontron has been removed from Yooka Laylee, a game made by his childhood heroes r any of these real words
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Mar 24, 2017 03:41
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8-Bit Scholar posted:Yeah but Jontron said nothing of the loving sort about killing anybody. What I'm saying is, people think he should be punished for it, and that isn't free speech. Rebukes or whatever, fine; if Playtronic legitimately wants to make a political statement by excising Jon Jafari from their game, then they are well within their rights to do so, but I don't really respect it. Particularly in the face of the fact that Jontron was no small part of the resurgence of Banjo-Kazooie nostalgia that helped feed into Yooka-Laylee's successful Kickstarter. He promoted the game and brought attention to the Kickstarter and while that certainly entitles him to nothing, you would think that there'd be a little more...something there. He didn't even say any of the stuff on his channel, he shared an opinion in a public open forum. This is what you are supposed to be free to do in this country, so why is it increasingly so that people can expect to be punished for it? It's a lovely thing to do, I think; we encourage people to speak their mind and be honest and true to themselves or whatever, unless we decide they said something we don't like, then we literally do not care if they live or die. It doesn't matter whether you live in an autocracy, democracy, theocracy, or meritocracy. People/establishments will almost always distance themselves/disavow you on principle. I'm not saying Playtronic has/doesn't have integrity. But that's sort of what integrity is. If you think someone has a lovely opinion, you don't keep their company.
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this guy looks like the fat 1 from drak eand josh dressed in disguise to try and buy beer but he gets in the store and doesn't know what to buy so he comes back w rose and a 6 of mike's hard lemonade and his friends leave him
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