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Trump should spitefully demand that Congress vote on this. Force those congressman to put down on the record whether they support this toxic waste.
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I am not ashamed to say that I will be completely coating both the inside and outside of my residence in cum the moment the vote fails.
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Mar 24, 2017 18:48
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Is there any chance the vote still passes? I have a personal stake in ACA remaining around and want to know when its okay to breathe and celebrate, and still remember various low-chance comebacks in both sports and politics over the last year
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SHOAH NUFF posted:Is there any chance the vote still passes? I have a personal stake in ACA remaining around and want to know when its okay to breathe and celebrate, and still remember various low-chance comebacks in both sports and politics over the last year Anything could happen. But this Spicer press conference makes it very, very clear Spicer at least believes failure is near-certain.
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Subvisual Haze posted:Trump should spitefully demand that Congress vote on this. Force those congressman to put down on the record whether they support this toxic waste. I imagine Bannon will have a nice chat with Trump and goad him into forcing the vote so that he knows who his enemies are. But actually Bannon just wants to twist the knife in Paul Ryan around a couple of times. SHOAH NUFF posted:Is there any chance the vote still passes? I have a personal stake in ACA remaining around and want to know when its okay to breathe and celebrate, and still remember various low-chance comebacks in both sports and politics over the last year Ryan's groveling for a stay of execution from Trump. Spicey is essentially saying "Trump did his best." It's dead.
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So a question I hadn't really considered. Assuming the bill fails, that's bad for Republicans. But this bill is a stupendously lovely bill and a lot of people will vote for it but don't want to, and are likely to defect once they know it's going to fail. What does a massive loss in the House (even if it doesn't really reflect how close it was) do to the Republican Party on this? All of the news is going to be about how they lost by like 50 votes, which is going to be a story in itself.
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evilweasel posted:So a question I hadn't really considered. Assuming the bill fails, that's bad for Republicans. But this bill is a stupendously lovely bill and a lot of people will vote for it but don't want to, and are likely to defect once they know it's going to fail. What does a massive loss in the House (even if it doesn't really reflect how close it was) do to the Republican Party on this? All of the news is going to be about how they lost by like 50 votes, which is going to be a story in itself. The possible margin of failure is is why I was thinking Ryan himself might want it pulled. The plan was blame the HFC if it failed. If there's a whole lot of non-Freedom Caucus defections, they can't do that effectively. The news will be about Trump and Ryan and how big the defeat was, not the Freedom Caucus.
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empty whippet box posted:I am not ashamed to say that I will be completely coating both the inside and outside of my residence in cum the moment the vote fails. If there is one thing to come out of the creation of this bill, it is a Renaissance of art.
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SHOAH NUFF posted:Is there any chance the vote still passes? I have a personal stake in ACA remaining around and want to know when its okay to breathe and celebrate, and still remember various low-chance comebacks in both sports and politics over the last year That's never going to happen. You should probably start doing some research on how to get care and meds without insurance.
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if you are banking on ACA to survive over the next few years i STRONGLY recommend you look into buying some crystals. take your health into your own hands
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Peven Stan posted:I haven't been this sexually aroused by us politics since Romney lost If this persists for more than 4 hours, go to a doctor, because it will still be covered when the bill fails
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Mar 24, 2017 19:23
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Hold the vote you slippery bastards ha ha ha
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evilweasel posted:https://twitter.com/sahilkapur/status/845340869121228801 I am rock hard.
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It will be hilarious if Trump's poo poo list is half the Republicans in the House. I can't believe what an own goal they're shaping up to have scored, here. The infighting and paranoia might actually get worse.
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Hang it around their neck like an albatross I hope this bill is what gives us back the house in 2018
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Once again the Frankenstein's Monster of the GOP, the Tea Party, rises up from its electrified bed and immediately strangles its creator while calling them "a loving RINO" "Step aside and let me get in on this action" says Trumpenstein in the background, impatiently tapping his foot.
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Monkey Fracas posted:Once again the Frankenstein's Monster of the GOP, the Tea Party, rises up from its electrified bed and immediately strangles its creator while calling them "a loving RINO" Honestly at this point I think it's more moderate defections sinking this than the HFC. Lots of Republicans relied on never having to explain their votes to their constituents because they wouldn't matter.
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No, I think they're still trying to convince poor people that the piss that is trickling down is somehow good
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Azhais posted:No, I think they're still trying to convince poor people that the piss that is trickling down is somehow good That's the point Gingrich is making though. That they needed to convince people that this trash fire was good before holding a vote. They just scheduled the vote without making sure they could get every Republican on board, much less the public.
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evilweasel posted:Honestly at this point I think it's more moderate defections sinking this than the HFC. Lots of Republicans relied on never having to explain their votes to their constituents because they wouldn't matter. Without the HFC I feel like it would have never gotten to this point though. They might have been able to squeak it by without so much drama and people noticing what is actually in the bill. Well at least through the House anyways. Listening to the GOP legislators talk about this on the floor- eternal question- stupid or evil? Both??
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Monkey Fracas posted:Without the HFC I feel like it would have never gotten to this point though. They might have been able to squeak it by without so much drama and people noticing what is actually in the bill. Well at least through the House anyways. The HFC did force it to the right so that it lost the moderates, yeah - but the moderates killed the original "repeal, replace later" plan which set the stage for this.
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Mar 24, 2017 19:50
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Has anyone seen actual confirmation the vote is going forward? I have only seen a complete absence of announcements it is not going forward, but no confirmation it is.
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I'll be pretty annoyed if they balk and don't hold the vote after all this, but considering Trump demanded they do so, it's just twisting the knife further and making them look weaker and weaker if they don't do it. They really have no good options at all.
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evilweasel posted:The HFC did force it to the right so that it lost the moderates, yeah - but the moderates killed the original "repeal, replace later" plan which set the stage for this. True- I wonder if they ever had that much of a chance of threading this piece of poo poo through the outhouse seathole. Anything less than full repeal won't satisfy the HFC and anything cruel enough for the HFC to consider will lose moderates if their constituents are paying attention.
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evilweasel posted:Has anyone seen actual confirmation the vote is going forward? I have only seen a complete absence of announcements it is not going forward, but no confirmation it is. Spicer himself said 3:30.
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Xombie posted:Spicer himself said 3:30. So in 25 minutes, or in an hour and 25 minutes? I'm poo poo at time zones.
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empty whippet box posted:So in 25 minutes, or in an hour and 25 minutes? I'm poo poo at time zones. D.C. is EST, so 25 minutes. (It won't happen)
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Monkey Fracas posted:True- I wonder if they ever had that much of a chance of threading this piece of poo poo through the outhouse seathole. Anything less than full repeal won't satisfy the HFC and anything cruel enough for the HFC to consider will lose moderates if their constituents are paying attention. Possibly. Remember PPACA took like 15 months of backroom dealing and committee meetings, consultation with experts, etc to get everyone on the same page. This was just kind of shat out randomly without any preparation.
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Xombie posted:Spicer himself said 3:30. He says a lot but it's not his call. I mean from House leadership.
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Mar 24, 2017 20:08
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