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GeneX posted:this isn't a hot take Apparently it is since people are suggesting unironically that Saheeli could get banned.
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Sickening posted:http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/latest-developments/update-standard-2017-03-24 Well, at least he didn't embarrass himself this time by asking twitter what everyone thought of standard on a scale of 1-10 and then lying about the results Dehtraen fucked around with this message at 16:50 on Mar 24, 2017 |
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Stoddard posted:I think in hindsight, making sure that we have at least Naturalize or something stronger in the format is important to keep the format in check, if our themes hit harder than expected.
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BFZ was so goddamn bad, there is basically only one card from that set that is worth playing and it's Gideon who is a 4-of in most of the decks he's played in. It's slightly exaggerating to say that there is one standard playable card in the whole set, but it's not far off.
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Cactrot posted:BFZ was so goddamn bad, there is basically only one card from that set that is worth playing and it's Gideon who is a 4-of in most of the decks he's played in. Define playable. BG Aristocrats was a huge deck for a while pre-rotation along with cards like Zulaport, Catacomb Sifter etc etc
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Transgress is still decently playable. Ruinous Path, also, out of the board. More stuff if you include Oath. But yeah BFZ kinda sucks.
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80s James Hetfield posted:Define playable. Sees play in the main of a deck that has made the top 8 of a recent tournament, I don't care about cards that saw play a year ago.
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Mar 24, 2017 17:08
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Verdant Catacombs and Tarns are rapidly rising. Is this because it's right before a weekend's beginning of cracking packs or did a lot of us miss the boat?
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DangerDongs posted:Verdant Catacombs and Tarns are rapidly rising. Is this because it's right before a weekend's beginning of cracking packs or did a lot of us miss the boat? Just like Goyfs, you kinda need 4 if you've opened one sometime in the past week. "Just need 3 more, might as well get them!"
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Chill la Chill posted:Just like Goyfs, you kinda need 4 if you've opened one sometime in the past week. "Just need 3 more, might as well get them!" This is what's killing me about Liliana atm. Her buylist is like $41 yet she is still high $60s on TCG.
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Chill la Chill posted:Just like Goyfs, you kinda need 4 if you've opened one sometime in the past week. "Just need 3 more, might as well get them!" Or opened 2 Goyfs, or already had an adjacent deck built, or had a deck 80% built and held off after the announcement, etc etc etc
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DangerDongs posted:Verdant Catacombs and Tarns are rapidly rising. Is this because it's right before a weekend's beginning of cracking packs or did a lot of us miss the boat? Demand is greatly outpacing supply at the moment. It could be for a few reasons. 1: Gp San Antonio is coming up and people are getting hyped. Its probably going to sell out in record time. People need cards for it and this last week was the best time to buy so you are assured you get your order on time. 2: Standard sucks and people who want to spend money on magic aren't spending it on standard. 3: TCG had a kickback last weekend of 3% and people jumped on it. If the print run is high, prices will go down further. It is safe to say that demand for modern cards is super high despite it not being modern season and it took people by surprise.
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DangerDongs posted:Verdant Catacombs and Tarns are rapidly rising. Is this because it's right before a weekend's beginning of cracking packs or did a lot of us miss the boat? They'll be cheaper again by Sunday 
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Sickening posted:http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/latest-developments/update-standard-2017-03-24 I'm glad that they've decided that printing good answers is good. This made me chuckle a little: quote:The nature of the bans and how far ahead we work has divorced that testing from how things are likely to look, and sharing a ton of our decklists that are so different than what the real world metagame looks like is unlikely to be useful or garner any positive discussion.
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They really should be super gung-ho about printing good answers because those go a long way towards covering up any major gently caress-ups they do provided they're distributed relatively evenly.
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ThePeavstenator posted:I'm glad that they've decided that printing good answers is good. This made me chuckle a little: Same but also scary. They literally have no loving clue what is going to happen with Amonkhet & Hour of Devestation.
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TheKingofSprings posted:They really should be super gung-ho about printing good answers because those go a long way towards covering up any major gently caress-ups they do provided they're distributed relatively evenly. Well, the obvious counterargument is "what happens when the answer becomes the fuckup?" but practically speaking they'd probably have to go a long way to get to that
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JerryLee posted:Well, the obvious counterargument is "what happens when the answer becomes the fuckup?" but practically speaking they'd probably have to go a long way to get to that Legacy Miracles is what happens.
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JerryLee posted:Well, the obvious counterargument is "what happens when the answer becomes the fuckup?" but practically speaking they'd probably have to go a long way to get to that Honestly legacy is probably the place where this is closest to "true" and even then legacy's most powerful answers are the only things keeping the format from the storm competition everyone thinks it is lmao
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Legacy needs ridiculously powerful answers because its combo and prison decks are disgustingly powerful. Standard just needs hero's downfall, lightning strike, and dissolve. Maybe a good blue cantrip and doom blade as well.
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There are powerful answers in standard, but they're too narrow. Fatal push, blessed alliance, collective brutality and so on are awesome when they line up correctly but lame when they don't. They also have a huge blindspot for planeswalkers which is extremely obnoxious with how hard they're being pushed.
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Reprint Memory Lapse. 
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Siivola posted:I understood the article so that the four blocks a year tripped them up because more themes meant more chances for ~pushing something too hard~ (and something falling under the bus, see BFZ) and because they suddenly didn't have the core set to save their bacon (either by printing answers or buffing a lagging theme, again see BFZ). Yeah, reading this made me hopeful for standard in the future because it really does seem like they know they hosed up but couldn't do much with it because of the sudden shift in how things were done. We got some cool sets (minus BFZ) but not enough ways with dealing with things. Still going to suck until cat is banned/ if there aren't more answers in Amonkhet. I think some answers will pop up, just based on stuff Maro has said about the "answer/threat pendulum" swinging back towards answers. Guess we'll know in a few weeks! e ShaneB posted:If an egypt-y themed set doesn't have lots of sick ways to kill poo poo I will be very upset. Same. Plus ways to deal with graveyards. RembrandtQEinstein fucked around with this message at 21:36 on Mar 24, 2017 |
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If an egypt-y themed set doesn't have lots of sick ways to kill poo poo I will be very upset.
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All I want from not-egypt set is a a creature with the word Mummy on the type-line. I am prepared to be disappointed because I know they will all just be zombies.
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Pyramids is on the Reserved List, but I'd love to see a Cyclopean Mummy reprint. The game needs more reprints of classic, cool cards to be limited filler.
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There's a lot of random old cards that would make good Limited fodder and I'm surprise they don't try to put more them in as reprints. I thought Immolation would have been a shoe-in for Theros block as Limited removal / heroic enabler that works with the enchantment theme. And you'd think Carrion Ants would have shown up somewhere in the last 20 years. I guess they like all their shades to require colored mana these days.
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Entropic posted:There's a lot of random old cards that would make good Limited fodder and I'm surprise they don't try to put more them in as reprints. I thought Immolation would have been a shoe-in for Theros block as Limited removal / heroic enabler that works with the enchantment theme. interestingly enough maro answered why that card is never coming back recently http://markrosewater.tumblr.com/post/158765451148/why-isnt-red-allowed-to-give-x-x-to-opponents
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JerryLee posted:Well, the obvious counterargument is "what happens when the answer becomes the fuckup?" Then we get one of the good games where getting your guy in feels super rad just because he's the only guy who has gotten in after 17 turns of constant back-and-forth. You don't need big splashy effects or immunity to removal to make a card feel awesome. You need it to be the one guy who's pulled up it britches and gone to work.
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Goddamn, it's kind of ridiculous at FNM here. The other big store in town closed and my LGS is the biggest one left by far and it's loving packed.
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When I first got back into it about 6 years ago, there was only one LGS in town and it was normal to get 20+ for Standard FNM. And no one in town drafted regularly. Now there's 2 big stores, but it's nearly the reverse, with standard struggling to get to 8 and draft regularly having 12-16. Standard attendance has plumetted in the last 6-9 months. I dropped by the other LGS I don't normally go to tonight, on a whim, and they were absolutely dead for FNM. So I ended up just spending two hours helping a couple kids make decks with cards from the bulk bin. 
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Entropic posted:I ended up just spending two hours helping a couple kids make decks with cards from the bulk bin. That's awesome!
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Do vehicles have a place in modern or really any life outside of standard?
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TwistedNails posted:That's awesome! I highly recommend it, especially if you're ever burned out on dealing with grognards.
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Nystral posted:Do vehicles have a place in modern or really any life outside of standard? I can imagine Smugger's Copter finding a place in a Modern deck somewhere maybe, but other than that I don't think the power level's really there.
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Nystral posted:Do vehicles have a place in modern or really any life outside of standard? The racer is in vintage, copter is fun in cube.
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