Register a SA Forums Account here!
JOINING THE SA FORUMS WILL REMOVE THIS BIG AD, THE ANNOYING UNDERLINED ADS, AND STUPID INTERSTITIAL ADS!!!

You can: log in, read the tech support FAQ, or request your lost password. This dumb message (and those ads) will appear on every screen until you register! Get rid of this crap by registering your own SA Forums Account and joining roughly 150,000 Goons, for the one-time price of $9.95! We charge money because it costs us money per month for bills, and since we don't believe in showing ads to our users, we try to make the money back through forum registrations.
 
  • Post
  • Reply
Yngwie Mangosteen
Aug 23, 2007

Twelve by Pies posted:

I wonder how does one scowl Muslim-y?

You've never heard of someone having a dark expression on their face?

Adbot
ADBOT LOVES YOU

Duke Igthorn
Oct 11, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

Twelve by Pies posted:

I wonder how does one scowl Muslim-y?
Scowlluha Akbar!

quote:

The biological parents of both children may well be a couple who are very close to the Obamas. The censors have done a good job scrubbing truth from the net, but this video clip is still out there.

Marty Nesbit is her bio father. Malia is the spitting image of her father, Marty Nesbit, and the other daughter is a clone of Marty’s wife, Anita Blanchard.

There are points in this video where the photos are placed side by side. I found it startling.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XadQMCbmNZY

38 posted on 3/23/2017, 4:12:09 PM by Kalamata
A similar nose is the absolute extent. Not even the same skin tone. Just absolutely nothing but "The Obamas took pictures with THESE PEOPLE!!!!!" and the usual "PIXELS!!!!" garbage. I just saved you a click and a "bro" video.

HappyHippo
Nov 19, 2003
Do you have an Air Miles Card?

quote:

To: Red Badger
You are absolutely right.

Ryan purposely crafted a bill that would put
Trump in a bad light, or so he intended.

Pass it and half the country would be mad because it was not a clean repeal.

Not pass it and the other half of the country would be mad because obummer care is still in effect and Trump would be accused of doing nothing.

So everyone is mad as hell.

If Ryan had any character at all and was supportive of Trump rather than trying to knife him in the back, he would have brought out a bill that did away with obummer care in one way or another.

He has a rat face and the character of a rat.


16 posted on 3/23/2017, 5:49:25 PM by old curmudgeon
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

Keeshhound
Jan 14, 2010

Mad Duck Swagger
I appreciate that their view of the country is one in which both halves of the entire country hates the ACA.

Twelve by Pies
May 4, 2012

Again a very likpatous story
I find it interesting that he believes the bill is a secret ploy by Ryan, and Trump somehow doesn't know what's really in the bill because if he did he'd totally hate it and be mad at Ryan. Rather than the fact that Trump actually thinks this bill is good and is what he wants.

McGlockenshire
Dec 16, 2005

GOLLOCKS!

Keeshhound posted:

I appreciate that their view of the country is one in which both halves of the entire country hates the ACA.

Well I mean I hate the ACA because it forces me to give money to an organization that exists only to create shareholder value when I'd much rather be paying reasonable prices for healthcare directly to those that provide it for me. Republicans don't want to solve the actual problem of the cost of healthcare because the only sane solution is eliminating the middlemen and imposing price controls, and that's regulation and all regulation is always bad because the corporate overlords say so.

They've crawled so far up capitalism's rear end that they can't see any other way out except to believe that rational actors in the free market will fix everything when the entirety of human history demonstrates why it won't.

Just tuned in to my favorite left wing hugbox and the chyron is "White House calls for vote tomorrow morning." That's loving awesome and I'm sure freep is despondent right now given how bad the bill was yesterday and how much incredibly worse it's become since then. I won't be able to dive in for a few hours so if you want to dip your toes in, dear reader, please do.

TapTheForwardAssist
Apr 9, 2007

Pretty Little Lyres
Freepers weigh in with their expertise:

quote:


There should be a limit on visas for any country. There should also be followup on this end. Business? Which business. Family? Who, where do they live? Find a way that you follow up on anyone entering this country on a visa.

3 posted on 3/23/2017, 7:57:25 PM by McGavin999

I'm pretty dang sure those are the questions they *currently* ask when people come to the US.

Chef Boyardeez Nuts
Sep 9, 2011

The more you kick against the pricks, the more you suffer.
Like I get the concept of free markets for TVs and poo poo, but how can one be a rational actor about their own health when they are sick or in pain?

Keeshhound
Jan 14, 2010

Mad Duck Swagger

McGlockenshire posted:

Well I mean I hate the ACA because it forces me to give money to an organization that exists only to create shareholder value when I'd much rather be paying reasonable prices for healthcare directly to those that provide it for me. Republicans don't want to solve the actual problem of the cost of healthcare because the only sane solution is eliminating the middlemen and imposing price controls, and that's regulation and all regulation is always bad because the corporate overlords say so.

They've crawled so far up capitalism's rear end that they can't see any other way out except to believe that rational actors in the free market will fix everything when the entirety of human history demonstrates why it won't.

Just tuned in to my favorite left wing hugbox and the chyron is "White House calls for vote tomorrow morning." That's loving awesome and I'm sure freep is despondent right now given how bad the bill was yesterday and how much incredibly worse it's become since then. I won't be able to dive in for a few hours so if you want to dip your toes in, dear reader, please do.

I guarantee you that when/if it fails the refrain is going to be that Trump is playing gently caress knows how many dimensions we're up to now chess, and that he pretended to throw his support behind this bill because he knew that it would fail and now he can pass the full replace and say "well, I tried repeal and replace but mean ol' congress wouldn't let me, so the only solution is to burn it all down."

Of course, that's it's own set of unpassable horseshit, but that's my call on how they'll justify it.

TyroneGoldstein
Mar 30, 2005

I like how he says 'half the country' this and 'half the country' that. Like, I don't even exist to people like him.

McGlockenshire
Dec 16, 2005

GOLLOCKS!
From Trump delivers ultimatum to House GOP: Pass health-care measure on Friday or he’ll move on posted by freeper NRx

So I haven't looked at freep all day and I'm honestly not sure what to expect. I'm not sure they know what to expect either, honestly.

I keep saying freep means globalists, not (((globalists))), and nobody every believes me.

quote:

To: NRx

I think he should walk away from this issue, and move onto something really important.

Like global trade.

Just saying.

2 posted on 3/23/2017, 6:27:53 PM by cba123 ( Toi la nguoi My. Toi bay gio o Viet Nam.)

"Trump? Incompetent?"

quote:

To: NRx

Ultimatums are not how you do deals.

I call BS on this.


4 posted on 3/23/2017, 6:28:41 PM by Arm_Bears (Rope. Tree. Politician/Journalist. Some assembly required.)

quote:

To: NRx

Good.
Move on.
The attendants of Fedzilla in Congress have never had any intention of repealing Obamacare
and reducing the power Fedzilla derives from Obamacare, not one federal agency created by Obamacare would be removed by Ryancare. All medical records would still be collected by Fedzilla under Ryancare.

6 posted on 3/23/2017, 6:31:25 PM by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents - Know Islam, No Peace -No Islam, Know Peace)

quote:

To: Bodleian_Girl

He's setting Ryan up for failure.

Trump and Bannon know who's on their side.

Trump knows darn well that Ryan is the enemy.

7 posted on 3/23/2017, 6:32:17 PM by IDontLikeToPayTaxes

1998 regdate laying down some truth.

quote:

To: so_real

Obamacare will not implode. Implode has no meaning. It is fully funded with budget mechanism. You want them gone? Find 60 votes. You want the mechanism gone with fewer than 60? That’s called budget Reconciliation. It stays, it gets funded. You think it will cost too much? It’s just more bonds issued by Treasury for the Fed to buy.

There is no implode. It will be there forever. Because you didn’t want to get rid of any part of it at all.

Ryan was right. 100% right. That is one brilliant guy. From day 1, THIS is the closest you’ll ever get. Never again will there be a chance.

10 posted on 3/23/2017, 6:33:46 PM by Owen

WENDLE is back into Poe's Law territory.

quote:

To: NRx

STOP RINOCARE!! REPEAL ONLY!! Kill the socialism. Why would I pay for your insurance premium? Go to the ER or get a damned JOB!!~

32 posted on 3/23/2017, 6:45:43 PM by WENDLE (DEFEAT RINOCARE. NO RINOCARE!!--FREE MARKET WITH SAFETY NET!!)

With original bolding.

quote:

To: NRx

Just like Captain Kirk, President Trump could beat Mr. Spock at 3D chess 9 times out of 10.

People who think Paul Ryan and his ilk are going to get over on President Trump—and patriots like Steve Bannon, Kellyanne Conway, and the rest of this Revolutionary team—simply don't understand what happened on November 8, 2016, and they still aren't giving President Trump credit for the man that he is...

37 posted on 3/23/2017, 6:46:21 PM by sargon ("If we were in the midst of a zombie apocalypse, the Left would protest for zombies' rights.")

Freep opinions: What's the worst case scenario here again?

quote:

To: Owen

“And worse, far worse, he CAN’T do other things.”

The democrats will probably win back control of congress next year if the Republicans can’t do their jobs and pass legislation. Then you can say bye bye to the funding for the border wall, for ICE, etc. The best case scenario will then be gridlock. Worst case scenario will be Trump working with the democrats.

38 posted on 3/23/2017, 6:48:00 PM by Helicondelta (Deplorable)

Trump is demanding that the bill be passed. It will not pass.

quote:

To: NRx

The very first rule of negotiating is willing to walk away and not look back. That is the strongest position to have.

In any case, Trump has already won this round and will get what he wants.

39 posted on 3/23/2017, 6:48:25 PM by GilGil (E. Deplorabus Unum)

Guys, it's 3d chess, I swear! It has to be, I can't figure it out!

quote:

To: NRx

One thing I do like, and it’s that Trump demanded a vote now.

He didn’t wait for them to diddle around with it.

It almost looks like he wants to call the vote so it will fail.

Now I know he says otherwise, but forcing the vote tomorrow makes it seem like he’s not as adamant about this as one might think.

What has he got up his sleeve?

Is he setting it up so he can say he tried their way, but that’s not what people wanted?

I don’t really know. It doesn’t look that way now, but this guy seems to always have the ace up his sleeve.

44 posted on 3/23/2017, 6:52:35 PM by DoughtyOne (NeverTrump, a movement that was revealed to be a movement. Thank heaven we flushed!)

Goddamn, Owen is basically asking for a zot at this point. The italics here are for the conversation to flow, they are not direct quotes.

quote:

To: All

Morons posting with exclamation points.

Repeal! Repeal! To hell with replace! Repeal!

You got 60 votes?

Don’t ask me that crap. I AM A PRINCIPLED PERSON! I care about PRINCIPLE. Repeal!!

You got text that will pass that says repeal?

Shut the hell up. It’s not my job to write legislation. It’s my job with my 12% of GOP votes in the House to stand here and shout REPEAL!
It’s someone else’s job to write legislation I like!

What if it won’t pass?

What did I just tell you? Shut the hell up! My only job here is to shout Repeal!!!

This is what governance by 12% looks like.

46 posted on 3/23/2017, 6:54:48 PM by Owen

quote:

To: so_real

I can hardly believe that the GOP had seven years to get something together just in case this day ever arrived and they have a lousy bill to show for it. This is time wasted that could have been beneficial for the Prez, Congress, and the people. Typical Ryan...either he is the wizard of SNAFU or he is overtly working against our Republican President.

49 posted on 3/23/2017, 6:58:15 PM by MHT (,`)

quote:

To: juggernaut; sargon; RitaOK

Stop blaming this on Ryan. Trump wants this bill too. I agree with Trump.

50 posted on 3/23/2017, 6:58:30 PM by EveningStar

quote:

To: ClearCase_guy

I see no likely downside for the President. He will move on and do other great things. Later, after the implosion, he will come back to this issue and say, “We tried your way, now let’s try the marketplace ...”

But with that scenario, we could lose the House in 2018... Then where would Trump be?

52 posted on 3/23/2017, 6:59:16 PM by MHT (,`)

quote:

To: NRx

One of his super negotiation tactics that will crush opposition to it???

Or total fail?


54 posted on 3/23/2017, 7:00:15 PM by sickoflibs (Don't call it Trumpcare until he does!)

Psst, the bill started in the House because it kinda has to.

quote:

To: NRx

Walk away. Focus on tax cuts while the Senate crafts a better bill.

59 posted on 3/23/2017, 7:02:12 PM by Mr. Blond

quote:

To: juggernaut

The Freedom Caucus voted to make Ryan speaker. They own Ryan and will now own Obamacare.

60 posted on 3/23/2017, 7:02:15 PM by Helicondelta (Deplorable)

quote:

To: NRx

Trump is right.

This is the time for Republicans to stick together, repeal Obamacare and pass this healthcare bill. There will be plenty of chances to make adjustments later.

64 posted on 3/23/2017, 7:06:25 PM by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)

A few are indeed paying attention to facts, but I'm not sure that they actually understand that Trump is an idiot yet.

quote:

To: DoughtyOne

I swear Trump is leaning on Ryan to deal, tonight.

It makes no sense for Trump to say all day long and again today, “Repeal and Replace and Lower Premiums”, when Ryan covers illegals healthcare, raises premiums and does not repeal Obamacare.

Who says all that in the same breath with Ryan’s bill, that does none of it?

69 posted on 3/23/2017, 7:08:30 PM by RitaOK (Viva Christo Rey! Public Education/Academia are the farm team for more Marxists coming... infinitum.)

Oh hey remember that pussygate phone call recording that Breitbart released? Freep sure remembers.

quote:

To: NRx

Tomorrow is looking to be an explosive day with the wiretapping bombshell revelations that’s going to rock D.C. But Unfortunately the mediapukes will only concentrate on the failed healthcare vote making trump look bad and turning a blind eye to the criminal aspect of it...... making it easy for the ratslime to skate! FREAKIN BENEDICT ARNOLD RYAN ASSBUTT!! I hate him!! He has an agenda to being trump down... remember on his phone call that was recorded he said he would never defend this president in other words he would never fight the good fight TO MAKE TRUMP LOOK GOOD!!!

70 posted on 3/23/2017, 7:11:13 PM by RoseofTexas

This is an interesting take because it operates under the assumption that the HFC is in the right, but the things they're demanding be added to the bill will make it a non-starter to moderates. If the HFC wins, the bill is still going to fail, it'll just be different votes.

quote:

To: EveningStar

Nah. Trump is signaling all day long that Ryan is.not.listening.

The Freedom Caucus is.

It is they who line up with Trump and he with the Caucus.

Ryan is burning out loud and in public. Done. He deals or else it goes down.

71 posted on 3/23/2017, 7:14:01 PM by RitaOK (Viva Christo Rey! Public Education/Academia are the farm team for more Marxists coming... infinitum.)

quote:

To: NRx

Say no to Ryan care = obamacare = socialism

Get rid of all the government agencies like the FDA ,FCC , DHS etc. and get rid of all government laws and regulations and let freedom ring


84 posted on 3/23/2017, 7:25:28 PM by Democrat_media (Yellen raising rates with only 1.8% growth to hurt Trump send USA to depression)

It's kind of refreshing to see opinions on freep that are based in objective reality.

quote:

quote:

To: Cboldt

The House passed repeal before. The House has voted 54 times in four years on Obamacare.

That's meaningless. They only passed it before because they knew it wouldn't become law. They'd never have to suffer the consequences of an outraged populace.

82 posted on 3/23/2017, 7:23:08 PM by Wissa (I took a little stroll to the Red Dog Saloon.)

I agree with the second sentence, completely. And in a sense, that's another way of saying the prior votes were "meaningless" or "hollow." But those votes were also a follow through on a "promise" that we now see was hollow too. As for whether or not the politicians will see consequences, I'm sure they hope that is true. The trick is to get your piece of the action before the whole house of cards collapses.

97 posted on 03/23/2017 7:32:02 PM PDT by Cboldt

On it needing 60 votes in the Senate,

quote:

To: Owen

Naw, just ditch the filibuster. Screw the dims. Time to save the Republic. You pubbies fail at this and you can kiss 2018 goodbye.

98 posted on 3/23/2017, 7:32:37 PM by Nuc 1.1 (Nuc 1 Liberals aren't Patriots. Remember 1789!)

On it being incredibly likely that the Dems are going to win House and Senate seats in 2018 if the bill passes,

quote:

To: MHT

We’re not losing the House or Senate. 10 Dem Senators in red states and a mid-term in which Dem self-id has been trending down since the election while Rep self-id has been trending up. Add to that the fact that AS SOON as Gorsuch is in, the battle for national voter roll verification and voter ID will begin. It will go to the Supreme Court, and will go 5-4 for national voter ID.

100 posted on 3/23/2017, 7:33:51 PM by struggle (The)

quote:

quote:

To: boycott

May be best to let it crash. Make the demos fix it. Let them wear this around their necks. If they cannot come up with a plan, then it’s time to push the issue and for republicans to take over.

Actually, that is their plan. Like Alka-Seltzer, guaranteed to fall apart on you. The rest of the plan is.......Single payer...communism.

101 posted on 3/23/2017, 7:34:21 PM by ROCKLOBSTER (The fear of stark justice sends hot urine down their thighs.)

Ryan care = Obamacare = communism

Send this square headed moron Paul Ryan packing . Deport the traitor

102 posted on 3/23/2017, 7:36:35 PM by Democrat_media (Yellen raising rates with only 1.8% growth to hurt Trump send USA to depression)

quote:

To: Arm_Bears

I call BS on this.

I guess you don't remember that he says you must always be prepared to walk away from a deal.

This bill will cost us the House and likely the Senate. It will also make this a 1 term Presidency. We can only hope the Freedom Caucus will save him from himself and Ryan.

I am so used to being lied to that if they didn't do it I would be shocked.

112 posted on 3/23/2017, 7:47:31 PM by itsahoot (Must learn to resist the compunction to offer advice or help to complainers.)

quote:

To: itsahoot

I guess you don't remember that he says you must always be prepared to walk away from a deal.

He is walking away from those who vote "no." President Trump negotiated this bill. Take it or take the Democrats back as your task masters and lose, lose, lose, pretending you have won.

121 posted on 3/23/2017, 7:57:45 PM by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)

Oh man they're really not taking this well.

quote:

To: Owen

It doesn’t matter what’s in the House bill, it just needs to be passed and sent to the Senate.

What comes back may resemble the current bill in title only.


124 posted on 3/23/2017, 8:00:06 PM by ROCKLOBSTER (The fear of stark justice sends hot urine down their thighs.)

quote:

To: Uncle Miltie

Wrong, the Rats passed this crap law, by themselves on Christmas Eve, 2009. Merry Christmas America.

If all things are true...Obama Care will fail under its own weight if nothing is done, the Ryan Rhino bill sux and won’t lower costs for citizens or our government cost, then let this piece of excrement die!

President Trump engaged, honored his commitment and he negotiated relentlessly. He gave the worthless Pub lead house rope to hang themselves, and here we are.

But, wait a tic. The despicable “Rats” aren’t free yet (both party’s). Should Mr. Trump move on to other things, this isn’t his issue!!!! Rats and Rhino’s own it!

126 posted on 3/23/2017, 8:00:39 PM by RetAF_fedUP (Do not elect anyone not defending "America first" or protecting our country!)

Of all the freepers to recognize what's about to happen, I didn't expect Sarah Barracuda to be the one.

quote:

To: cba123

President Trump needs to walk away from this bill..it has too many problems and not enough solutions. They should move on to tax reform which to me is an important issue. If they pass this bill, EVERY SINGLE PERSON who has a problem with their health care will be paraded through the media and everything and I mean EVERYTHING will be blamed on Republicans..Obamacare is the main reason why the Dems lost so many seats, I dont want it to be the reason why Republicans start losing seats

132 posted on 3/23/2017, 8:13:30 PM by Sarah Barracuda

Hi Kit Cat! Paul Ryan isn't up until 2020, by the way.

quote:

To: Sarah Barracuda

Trump NEEDS to walk away move onto tax cuts, WATCH LYIN RYAN also do EVERYTHING he can to make the tax cuts a whole lot different than what Trump wants this guy has to go!!! Trump NEEDS to get out there in 2018 and get this guy primaried he is STILL a NEVER TRUMPER!!!

135 posted on 3/23/2017, 8:19:48 PM by Trump Girl Kit Cat (Yosemite Sam raising hell)

This is why I didn't expect Sarah Barracuda to understand what's going on in reality, by the way.

quote:

To: Trump Girl Kit Cat

I really dont get what Paul Ryan is thinking..he wants to purposely make a HORRIBLE deal so he gets thrown out of office whats his deal seriously? Why does he want to destroy himself and destroy the GOP. I hope the bill fails..gee how hard is it to make a bill on one single page..FREE MARKET..gee how hard is that

140 posted on 3/23/2017, 8:22:33 PM by Sarah Barracuda

quote:

To: NRx

Stop the diddling around and pass the bill. The public is sick of these pompous buttheads who won’t work to get us relief from Obama’s policies. I refuse to read thru the comments on this thread. Some of the posters have to be Dems undercover.

142 posted on 3/23/2017, 8:27:31 PM by Ciexyz (Happy days are here again, with Trump/Pence!)

A bit more reality in the thread.

quote:

To: plain talk

“Trump wants conservatives to go RINO or he moves on to the next thing on his list he wants to check off. Trump did not promise RINOCare... or did he and I just miss it?”

The “moderate” Republicans will never vote for the bill you approve.

Get a bill to the Senate and let Paul, Cruz, Cotton and Lee get at it. Then see if the moderates will reject the Senate bill.

Otherwise, let it die in the House.

146 posted on 3/23/2017, 8:33:20 PM by map

Well this is certainly something.

quote:

To: NRx

Trump is getting too big for his britches. You can make the principled conservatives start a new party so you won’t have the opportunity to replace them in a primary, Donny. You can only play spoiler for the benefit of the Democrats if that happens, and you aren’t gonna do that. That’s why it’s your turn to oblige someone you see as against you. They hold the cards, not you this time.

Trump is smart though and will probably realize that he can’t win by triangulating to the Ryan left. He has no support base when he’s over there. Well, maybe some really unconvincing bought propagandists.

And the conservatives can prevent Trump from “moving on”. You sure as hell can’t give him his tax cuts yet because you might have to raise taxes on the millionaires and billionaires who are benefiting from the Trump Care that he wants to pass. Health care has to come before tax cuts. Do you really expect to make the middle class pay for the health care of the illegal aliens that all of Trump’s country club buddies at mara-a-laga want to employ?

151 posted on 3/23/2017, 9:03:59 PM by Perchant

Hi Kit Cat!

quote:

To: Sarah Barracuda

Sarah RYAN has one goal in mind he has promised his Donors and
K-street that Trump may have won much to EVERYONE’S dismay BUT he would do EVERYTHING possible to make his agenda FAIL!!! He would do EVERYTHING in his power to make sure Trump IS a one term POTUS!!! This little WEASLE feels he is SO SECURE in his district he has the power with his K-street buddies to make Trump useless!!! Next shoe to drop are Trumps tax cuts Trump wants BIG tax cuts LYIN RYAN will do all he can to make Trumps tax cuts SHRINK as much as possible!!! He will call it deficit neutral !!!!!

154 posted on 3/23/2017, 9:26:42 PM by Trump Girl Kit Cat (Yosemite Sam raising hell)

quote:

To: Trump Girl Kit Cat

Paul Ryan is such a dufus because maybe his plan is to derail Trump and make him a one term President but if this health care bill is a massive fail it will destroy the Republican Party..so he’s willing to destroy the GOP for this lunacy..just let Obamacare die, and later on come up with a good health care bill that will benefit everyone(Except illegals, they should NOT be allowed to have health care on our dime)

158 posted on 3/23/2017, 9:48:09 PM by Sarah Barracuda

Ladies and gentlemen, I would like to provide a unified explanation of why boomers are hated so much by the younger generations. You can find this explanation in the final paragraph of this post.

quote:

To: Perchant

“you might have to raise taxes on the millionaires and billionaires who are benefiting from the Trump Care that he wants to pass.”

First of all, the “millionaires and billionaires” pay ALL the taxes. The top 10% pay 90% of the taxes. And the bottom 50% are FREELOADERs, including half of the middle class. Fact.

Second of all, why the class warfare? The millionaires and the billionaires employ ALL. Fact.

Third, you might be a millionaire. Just check your house value, retirement accounts and tally up your 401k. Chances are you are in the multi millions. If you have worked for 30+ years and are broke, you must have made some serious life choice mistakes. Can’t blame on those evil millionaires and billionaires.

159 posted on 3/23/2017, 9:54:12 PM by sagar

quote:

To: Sarah Barracuda

“he’s willing to destroy the GOP for this lunacy..just let Obamacare die, and later on come up with a good health care bill that will benefit everyone”

REPEAL! Don’t “let it die”. It will NOT die! The freeloaders are in tens of millions. They will NOT let it “die”. REPEAL. And don’t “replace” with a “better” version, which does not exist.

162 posted on 3/23/2017, 9:57:21 PM by sagar

Kit Cat is on a roll tonight.

quote:

To: Sarah Barracuda

Sarah these BASTARDS don’t give a drat about ANYONE but themselves!! Ryan would have been happier if HELLARY were POTUS he still gets all his goodies wouldn’t bother him a bit!!! Trump IS THERE to drain the swamp ANYTHING Ryan can do to prevent them getting their goodies cut off he WILL DO!!! This government is ALL ABOUT the LOBBYISTS and the lobbyists greasing their SLIMEY paws!!!! The ONLY damned person in this entire SWAMP that is for the people is Trump, because he doesn’t NEED their SLIMEY money!!!

164 posted on 3/23/2017, 9:58:16 PM by Trump Girl Kit Cat (Yosemite Sam raising hell)

I have decided that I hate freeper sagar.

quote:

quote:

To: UnwashedPeasant

Replace RyanCare = Obamacare with the free market.

The intense competition in free market capitalism always improves quality of services and reduces prices of services.

It’s called capitalism


127 posted on 3/23/2017, 8:01:16 PM by Democrat_media (Yellen raising rates with only 1.8% growth to hurt Trump send USA to depression)

It is a marxist word. Stick to free market.

166 posted on 3/23/2017, 10:06:17 PM by sagar

quote:

To: IDontLikeToPayTaxes

I would agree that Ryan is the one hurt most by this. But it really reflects on a fake GOP legend that they had this grand plan back in 2012 to replace Obama-Care. No, they never had such a plan....it was just trash talk.

Trump is correct...if it won’t pass, then move on. Let Ryan stand there in a weakened position. The Democrats would be wise not to talk about this in any way....because the woeful Obama-Care package is still standing and costs go up every single year...so there is nothing to brag about.

180 posted on 3/23/2017, 10:50:12 PM by pepsionice

quote:

To: Jarhead9297

85% could be overturned through budget reconciliation.

otoh...100 percent could be overturned if they would just grow a pair and

NUKE THE drat FILIBUSTER.

OF COURSE we’d still have Ryan. I’m thinking we are not going to MAGA with Paul Ryan as Speaker. Nope. Maybe we let this attempt die, make Ryan take the blame and resign. Win Win....then we NUKE THE drat FILIBUSTER, REPEAL THE drat OBAMACARE AND GET ROLLING.

187 posted on 3/23/2017, 11:55:40 PM by TomasUSMC (FIGHT LIKE WW2, WIN LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM.)

So, overall, freep is mixed but mostly unhinged. Some see what's happening outside of their bubble, some seem fully aware that the Republicans had no plan to deal with the ACA, some are questioning what Trump is doing. Most of the first half of the thread, though, was them almost unanimously agreeing to just cut their losses on the healthcare bill and move on to tax reform. Most of these posts aren't notable, which is why there aren't many of them. This is probably what Trump wants his fan club to want. I guess we'll see what happens tomorrow. I'm not sure what time the vote is.

Lprsti99
Apr 7, 2011

Everything's coming up explodey!

Pillbug
Freepers: FREAKIN BENEDICT ARNOLD RYAN ASSBUTT!! I hate him!!

Also jesus loving christ McGlockenshire, I don't know how you do it. Just reading the quotes you post pisses me off, I can't even imagine going onto the site and trawling through the poo poo to get them.

Annointed
Mar 2, 2013

Yeah seriously just skimming those posts reminds me that these folks would gladly char me to ashes, and their sheer smugness of how malignant and self righteous they are makes my blood boil.

Annointed fucked around with this message at 09:16 on Mar 24, 2017

Tias
May 25, 2008

Pictured: the patron saint of internet political arguments (probably)

This avatar made possible by a gift from the Religionthread Posters Relief Fund
Obligatory reminder that they're bitter broken people who rarely muster the guts to act on their convictions, and that their slide into insanity can often be pretty entertaining.

Fathis Munk
Feb 23, 2013

??? ?
"Pff, look at all these snowflake libruls, should just have bought a house and have a 401k methinks :smug:"

TapTheForwardAssist posted:

Freepers weigh in with their expertise:


I'm pretty dang sure those are the questions they *currently* ask when people come to the US.

Yeah it's already ridiculous. If you want to come over for an internship from Germany of France, you need to arrange a meeting with the consulate so that they can interview you, you need to tell them where you will stay and work and you need to prove that you still have connections outside of the US you will return to afterwards, among a plethora of other crap.

Then again I'm a Schengen kid so maybe all visas are like that?

Bonfire Lit
Jul 9, 2008

If you're one of the sinners who caused this please unfriend me now.

TapTheForwardAssist posted:

I'm pretty dang sure those are the questions they *currently* ask when people come to the US.
Those are (some of) the questions the CBP officer asks at the border when you're entering on a visa waiver class WB or WT admission, let alone the interview for a proper visa you have to apply for at a consulate.

SocketWrench
Jul 8, 2012

by Fritz the Horse

Lol at the freepers that think getting a job is the way you should get insurance. I remember when the Mcdonalds I worked at offered insurance. The weekly rate was 30 bucks. Like jesus, on a minimum wage pay? You're loving crazy

baw
Nov 5, 2008

RESIDENT: LAISSEZ FAIR-SNEZHNEVSKY INSTITUTE FOR FORENSIC PSYCHIATRY

McGlockenshire posted:

Hi Kit Cat! Paul Ryan isn't up until 2020, by the way.

He's up in 2018, just like everyone else in the House.

McGlockenshire
Dec 16, 2005

GOLLOCKS!

Lprsti99 posted:

Also jesus loving christ McGlockenshire, I don't know how you do it. Just reading the quotes you post pisses me off, I can't even imagine going onto the site and trawling through the poo poo to get them.

Don't get me wrong, some of it pisses me off greatly. I wrote and then erased a goddamn essay after mister "you should be a millionaire, don't you own a house? :smuggo:"

But I've been immersed in fundies for over a decade now. Most of their poo poo I'm simply desensitized to, to a degree. And the bits I'm not desensitized to? That's what chemical dependencies are for. It's hard to do this sober.

For now I'm just going to look forward to drinking their tears once the AHCA fiasco resolves itself. There is no realistic condition under which they end up actually happy. Oh, they'll say that they are satisfied with Trump wanting to move on, but that's just as much of a cop-out on their behalf as it is on Trump's behalf.


baw posted:

He's up in 2018, just like everyone else in the House.

Yeah, I misread the year.

HappyHippo
Nov 19, 2003
Do you have an Air Miles Card?
You're doing the lord's work.

Also the House is easy because everyone is up every election. It's the senate that's complicated.

Duke Igthorn
Oct 11, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

quote:

Say no to Ryan care = obamacare = socialism
84 posted on 3/23/2017, 7:25:28 PM by Democrat_media (Yellen raising rates with only 1.8% growth to hurt Trump send USA to depression)
TRUMP PROMISED UHC DURING THE CAMPAIGN. Straight up promises everyone everywhere gets all the coverage they need paid for by the government, he ran on that, he said "I don't care if it costs me republican votes". WE know Trump is a lying scumbag but YOU are supposed to be true believers who take his word as gospel!

quote:

]Ultimatums are not how you do deals.

I call BS on this.

4 posted on 3/23/2017, 6:28:41 PM by Arm_Bears (Rope. Tree. Politician/Journalist. Some assembly required.)
It's...it's ALMOST like being a politician and running a business are two different things and this 70 year old man is finding it impossible to suddenly change his entire way of thinking on a dime and you shouldn't hire someone to do a job they have no experience actually doing!! If ONLY someone had repeatedly told you this before now!

myron cope
Apr 21, 2009

Tias posted:

Obligatory reminder that they're bitter broken people who rarely muster the guts to act on their convictions, and that their slide into insanity can often be pretty entertaining.

This would be more comforting if Donald Trump wasn't president, though.

McGlockenshire
Dec 16, 2005

GOLLOCKS!

Duke Igthorn posted:

TRUMP PROMISED UHC DURING THE CAMPAIGN. Straight up promises everyone everywhere gets all the coverage they need paid for by the government, he ran on that, he said "I don't care if it costs me republican votes". WE know Trump is a lying scumbag but YOU are supposed to be true believers who take his word as gospel!

There's this one freeper that brings this up whenever he gets the chance, and every single time he's shouted down as intentionally misinterpreting Trump's divine wording. Delusional lefties also latched on to that wording for a while, back when there were some people holding out hope for him being a secret liberal instead of a mercurial moron.



So, Nunes really stepped in it. From Nunes Backs Down From Assertion Trump Was Monitored posted by freeper SSS Two

the excerpt posted:

Rep. Devin Nunes told reporters Friday he can't be sure whether conversations among Trump or his aides were captured in the surveillance that has become a source of controversy since Nunes made it public in two news conferences this week.

"He said he'll have to get all the documents he requested from the (intelligence community) about this before he knows for sure," his spokesman, Jack Langer, said earlier.

Langer asserted that Nunes did not explicitly say Trump was spied on when he briefed reporters Wednesday that he was "very concerned," that "the intelligence community incidentally collected information about American citizens involved in the Trump transition."

As for Trump's assertion that Obama wiretapped him, Nunes repeated Friday what he has said previously, telling reporters, "That didn't happen."

The article is from NBC, but it quotes Nunes in his own press conference directly. How many posts will we see before FAKE NEWS?

quote:

To: SSS Two

Recordings could emerge of Obama and Clinton joking about something Trump said, caught on illegal surveillance, and the media and left would reject it as inconclusive.

2 posted on 3/24/2017, 9:03:50 AM by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)

Prove it.

quote:

To: SSS Two

They know that somebody HIGH UP IN THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION AUTHORIZED THIS...........................

5 posted on 3/24/2017, 9:05:06 AM by Red Badger (Ending a sentence with a preposition is nothing to be afraid of........)

To be clear, he did not close next week's session, he canceled it.

quote:

To: SSS Two

WTH is this?

Rep. Nunes has made next week’s intel session closed and is brining back both NSA and FBI directors.

Paul Manafort offered to testify via his counsel.

7 posted on 3/24/2017, 9:05:58 AM by romanesq (For George Soros so loved the world, he gave us Obama)

Looks like the answer is eight posts before FAKE NEWS in the face of demonstrably true, objective, factual things that actually happened, performed by real people.

quote:

To: SSS Two

FAKE News

8 posted on 3/24/2017, 9:06:23 AM by Mozilla (Truth Is Stranger than Fiction.)

There's a lot of speculation that this really was a counterintelligence operation to see if Nunes would freak out. This speculation exists because Nunes' behavior makes no sense whatsoever under any other possible circumstances. This is one of those cases where I'm just as :tinfoil: as freep, because it being true would be hilarious.

quote:

To: SSS Two

Looks like the CIA told Nunes what they have on him.

9 posted on 3/24/2017, 9:06:23 AM by MeganC (Democrat by birth, Republican by default, conservative by principle.)

So this was basically the #2 headline across the entire MSM when it happened, and yet they think that the media didn't cover it at all?

quote:

To: SSS Two

OHHHHH. So now that Nunes appears to be “backing down”, suddenly the Fake News Media is interested in the story.

10 posted on 3/24/2017, 9:06:35 AM by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)

Again, Nunes himself is backing away from his statements.

quote:

To: SSS Two

MSM spin. Trump said he used “wiretapping” in quotes to mean surveillance.

The MSM pretends it can only mean some Obama henchman dressed as a maintenance guy physically planting a microphone in Trump’s office.

One thing about the Trump era, is now no one in the country can claim with a straight face that the MSM is not the propaganda arm of the Democrat party.

12 posted on 3/24/2017, 9:07:49 AM by Meet the New Boss

It's all fake. All of it.

quote:

To: SSS Two

NBC=fake, subversive news. They can be trusted? LOLOLOL

13 posted on 3/24/2017, 9:07:51 AM by WKUHilltopper (WKU 2016 Boca Raton Bowl Champions)

I think I'm just going to post each and every one of these.

quote:

To: SSS Two

Fake News propaganda.

16 posted on 3/24/2017, 9:09:12 AM by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)

quote:

To: SSS Two

NBC is not a credible news source.

17 posted on 3/24/2017, 9:09:38 AM by chris37 (Donald J. Trump, Tom Brady, The Patriots... American Destiny!)

quote:

To: SSS Two

Nunes Backs Down From Assertion Trump Was Monitored
NBC News ^ | MAR 24 2017, 11:41 AM ET | by KEN DILANIAN and ALI VITALI


When more BS is needed you can always depend on good old NOTHING BUT CRAP or as it is known in medidiotland NBC.

20 posted on 3/24/2017, 9:10:42 AM by JayAr36 (The so-called democratic party has morphed into the Despicable Party. Anti-American to the core.)

quote:

To: Meet the New Boss

These same turds at NBC would tell you to your face that Newt Gingrich wasn’t wiretapped decades ago because his lawyer’s mobile phone call was merely intercepted by some grandparent democrat activists with a radio receiver and taping device hooked up in their car as they enjoyed their hobby. Nope, no wires or break ins. Plz moves along.

Stalinists lie.Always

24 posted on 3/24/2017, 9:13:44 AM by a fool in paradise (patriots win, Communists and Socialist Just-Us Warriors lose)

quote:

To: SSS Two

NBC news. More fake news.

26 posted on 3/24/2017, 9:15:15 AM by kabar

quote:

To: SSS Two

Oh, yeah. Just in the nick of time, NBC To Obama’s Rescue!!

What I am concluding is that the tentacles of the leftists in this country are very, very deep and pervasive. Eight years of Clinton, 8 years of Bush neglect, and then 8 years of Obama on steroids has created a very powerful destabilizing force in America.

It will be a long, hard slog. But we have Trump. And I am a foot soldier willing to battle on.

28 posted on 3/24/2017, 9:15:47 AM by Obadiah (Democrats continue their crusade against normal.)

quote:

To: SSS Two

NBC = Fake News

30 posted on 3/24/2017, 9:16:44 AM by Lexington Green (Sun Tzu Trumps Saul Alinsky)

OH COME ON

quote:

To: SSS Two

” incidentally”

The new politi-speak KEYWORD.

35 posted on 3/24/2017, 9:19:19 AM by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)

I love it when they use "bigly."

quote:

To: SSS Two

Somebody got to him. Bigly. Physically.

39 posted on 3/24/2017, 9:21:16 AM by Attention Surplus Disorder (Apoplectic is where we want them!)

quote:

To: SSS Two

It would take about 30 minutes to pull up every living relative of NUNES on both sides of the family tree by name and age and to lay a significant burden on NUNES.

“You know Devin it would be horrible to have a tragedy a family member because of your “bias” to come to Trump’s aid.”

Democrats have proven time and again that they have no conscience. Silencing an enemy is as easy as a phone call.

There is quite an incentive to be dumb or to play dumb in Washington.

43 posted on 3/24/2017, 9:22:22 AM by overdog2

I hate it when they try to play semantics.

quote:

To: SSS Two

Nunes stated clearly that Trump Towers was not wiretapped.

He did NOT say cell phones were not listened to.

Wiretapping is old tech. NSA has much more accessible methods now.

I suspect the old “words matter” theme will matter again...

45 posted on 3/24/2017, 9:22:54 AM by SE Mom (Screaming Eagle mom)

This was in a 72 point font.

quote:

To: SSS Two

The corruption at the top is total. When does the revolution start?

49 posted on 3/24/2017, 9:26:45 AM by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)

quote:

To: HarleyLady27

If he was threatened, he should come out with it and ask for protection.

50 posted on 3/24/2017, 9:27:27 AM by jersey117
So let's talk about this one a little. Nunes' behavior is panicky, and he clearly does not feel like he's in a position of power. We can infer from his behavior that he's in deep poo poo.

If you're the goddamn head of the congressional committee charged with oversight over the entire US intelligence community, who in their right goddamn mind would threaten you? That wouldn't just be a career ender, it wouldn't just be a jail sentence, it'd be a huge, huge scandal that would send shockwaves throughout the entire system. This'd be a thing that the Trump administration would want, because it would give them carte blanche to go after the "deep state."

Freeper jersey117 is completely correct. If Nunes was threatened, coming out with it is his best possible move. But he's not doing that. Instead he's flailing around and making it look like he has something to hide. But freep can't admit this, because if they admit this, then there has to be something for him to be hiding, and that means this Russia business isn't just fake news invented by the evil MSM Uniparty.

Anyway, yes, it's only the capital-p progressive that are making Trump look dysfunctional.

quote:

To: SSS Two

It’s NBC’S “look squirrel” moment again. Fake news at it finest. The Progressives are doing their best to wear us down, change our minds, and show Trump’s dysfunctional government is useless.

51 posted on 3/24/2017, 9:27:36 AM by lucky american (Progressives are attac Iking our rights and y'all will sit there and take it.)

Freep discovering emoji is pretty much the worst thing ever.

quote:

To: SSS Two

"Nunes Backs Down From Assertion Trump Was Monitored NBC News" lied #FakeNews journofake liars Ken Dilanian and Ali Vitali.

Sorry, guys - we don't believe the shite you're shoveling. 😀

53 posted on 3/24/2017, 9:30:51 AM by kiryandil

It's too bad that freep makes it nigh-impossible to follow a poster, because I promise you that freeper Mr. Douglas isn't actually done.

quote:

To: SSS Two

We’re being played. By ALL of them.

Something big is coming. I don’t know what it is, but I have no doubt it is coming very soon and will be big. I mean russian revolution big, or meteor big, or WWIII big.

The whole thing is a mess and there has to be a pretty big reason for it.


I’m done monitoring it. it is 12:37 EST on March 24, 2017. I’m hereby done.

57 posted on 3/24/2017, 9:36:32 AM by Mr. Douglas (Best. Election. EVER!)

WENDLE shows a moment of being calm and cool and collected but still 100% delusional.

quote:

To: ExTexasRedhead

I saw it live.
We caught a break today. NSA delayed the huge news release to get out of the News over run on replacing socialized medical insurance with Rinocare socialized medical insurance. MSM was using that for cover of the obama crimes. . NSA will drop the smoking gun this next Tuesday. That way it will be a much lighter news day with far more light shed on the felonies of the obama Whit House. But it will be important to cal Obama to testify under oath in congress as to what he knew and when he knew it.

60 posted on 3/24/2017, 9:40:07 AM by WENDLE (DEFEAT RINOCARE. NO RINOCARE!!--FREE MARKET WITH SAFETY NET!!)

So two of them are parroting this, right after each other. Which pundits are talking about the NSA?

quote:

To: JohnnyP

Only 48 more business hours to wait.

The goods were supposed to come from people at the NSA. Unfortunately, Obama still controls the NSA... Rodgers is still the head of it... and he sat there Monday with Comey lying to all of us about this whole mess.

Why are the leakers at the NSA postponing the release? Either they have the goods or they don't. Is there a massive hunt within the NSA right now to find/eliminate the leakers? Is there a massive data purge going on at the NSA now to cover the trail?

This delay in handing over the goods makes me very nervous... smells like a bad omen to me. I hope I'm wrong.

62 posted on 3/24/2017, 9:43:10 AM by Cementjungle

[citation needed]

quote:

To: SSS Two

Anyone in their right mind knows that wire tapping the ones running for office is a common thing and denying it is just as common, proving it is hard to do because in most cases the guilty ones are the ones who has all of the facility`s to do the investigating.

65 posted on 3/24/2017, 9:53:39 AM by ravenwolf (If the Bible does not say it in plain words, please don`t preach it to me.)

Here's your daily dose of purestrain

quote:

To: Cementjungle

You are correct in that it is bad, and it is going to get worse. They are waging[if that is the correct term] a coup against President Trump. And unless he calls in the military to put it down, they will succeed. He cannot depend on or use the FBI, CIA, or NSA because obama and Hillary Clinton own them lock, stock , and barrel head. He is going to have to get them. Or they will get him. And after they get him, they will come after those who voted for and supported him like a bat out of hell.

66 posted on 3/24/2017, 9:55:11 AM by sport

As I was saying above,

quote:

To: Cementjungle

If anything happens to Nunez, the IC would practically be convicting themselves.

68 posted on 3/24/2017, 10:07:31 AM by virgil (The evil that men do lives after them.)

quote:

To: virgil

If anything happens to Nunez, the IC would practically be convicting themselves.

Nothing will happen to him if he comes back next week and says "Oops, sorry... I was mistaken. Never mind. Now, let's get back to the real work of investigating Trump's ties to Putin".

71 posted on 3/24/2017, 10:19:31 AM by Cementjungle

Oh that's so cute, somehow they think today's clusterfuck around the AHCA isn't going to be the headline.

quote:

To: FlipWilson

“Of course, NBC. Because we have to get back to RUSSIA!!”

Thanks to Paul Manafort’s “Volunteering ( which he wouldn’t do with first asking Trump) RUSSIA! is now tonight’s headline.

74 posted on 3/24/2017, 10:29:19 AM by heights

We can expect to see more and more posts like this as the Russia investigation continues and they have to justify what's happening with more and more outlandish conspiracies in order to protect themselves from reality.

quote:

To: heights

And the cherry on the top is Manafort Volunteering to be grilled by Democrats. Could Trump’s handling of this be more Stupid.?

Trump gave it a darned good shot, but sadly he'll now be removed from office... probably Pence too, so Ryan can finally get what he wants... the presidency. He'll team up with the Bush/Clinton/Obama clan and the end of the USA as we know it will proceed as scheduled.

75 posted on 3/24/2017, 10:29:23 AM by Cementjungle

Zero_Grade
Mar 18, 2004

Darktider 🖤🌊

~Neck Angels~

McGlockenshire posted:

attendants of Fedzilla
Both a good username and good band name.

SHY NUDIST GRRL
Feb 15, 2011

Communism will help more white people than anyone else. Any equal measures unfairly provide less to minority populations just because there's less of them. Democracy is truly the tyranny of the mob.

Ryan getting the big chair would probably be the best. He continues to fail upwards, and everyone will be baying for his blood for one reason or another.
Also he can't draft laws

Twelve by Pies
May 4, 2012

Again a very likpatous story

quote:

the obama Whit House

It says a lot about Freep that I can't tell if this is a typo or if it's supposed to be some sick burn on Obama.

McGlockenshire
Dec 16, 2005

GOLLOCKS!
e: wrong thread

Annointed
Mar 2, 2013

SHY NUDIST GRRL posted:

Ryan getting the big chair would probably be the best. He continues to fail upwards, and everyone will be baying for his blood for one reason or another.
Also he can't draft laws

Time to grab the popcorn a tweet storms a coming. I guess even a "God Emperor" can't get everything he wants.

Jagged Jim
Sep 26, 2013

I... I can only look though the window...
What a time to be phone posting. :sigh: Republicans pulled the AHCA admitting they don't have the votes. The thead of Freepers desperately trying to make this good news for Trump is here.

Twelve by Pies
May 4, 2012

Again a very likpatous story
Fake news, the bill actually went to vote and totally passed and soon everyone will see how brilliant Trump is.

HappyHippo
Nov 19, 2003
Do you have an Air Miles Card?
Most of it is blaming Ryan. However

quote:

To: sargon
***This is a disaster for Paul Ryan, not for President Trump.***

Oh yes it is, because he put his eggs in the Ryancare basket. He tried to shut out, then insulted the members of the Freedom Caucus. This bill would have screwed Vets, the very people he promised over and over to help.


101 posted on 3/24/2017, 4:02:32 PM by Lil Flower (American by birth. Southern by the Grace of God. ROLL TIDE!!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

quote:

To: C19fan
Trump screwed up. Biggly.


146 posted on 3/24/2017, 4:10:41 PM by silentknight
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

quote:

To: flaglady47
Trump ran on winning...he’s lost on Obamacare and he’s lost on immigration. Where are the wins on the BIG stuff. He’s going to get his 100 days with absolutely nothing...not even a Supreme Court Justice.

His power is slipping precipitously and rapidly. The failed President meme will be out tomorrow...and sold within a week.


158 posted on 3/24/2017, 4:13:17 PM by Scott from the Left Coast
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 132 | View Replies]

quote:

To: silentknight
Why did Trump support this socialist bill.Actually it was damned near communist. Ryan has lost all credibility.He must resign!!


196 posted on 3/24/2017, 4:24:39 PM by WENDLE (WE DEFEATED RINOCARE. NOW WE WANT FREE MARKET WITH SAFETY NET!!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 146 | View Replies]

quote:

To: flaglady47
There’s plenty of blame to go around, but some must accrue to Trump. His administration wasn’t ready at day one, nor were they ready to fight back at the level of assault they were/are under.

The Democrats have beaten them like a rented mule. They aren’t ready for the kind of to-the-literal-death fight the Democrats are waging. The Democrats are winning - hugely. The Republicans aren’t ready. And neither is Trump. There will be no tax cut bill passed. You won’t even see one floated for two months...by then Trump will be a eunuch with no power whatsoever.


199 posted on 3/24/2017, 4:25:37 PM by Scott from the Left Coast
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 170 | View Replies]

quote:

To: sargon
This is a disaster for Paul Ryan, not for President Trump. It weakens the Speaker, hopefully to the point where he is replaced.
The President put his full, enthusiastic support behind Ryan and this terrible bill. He shares in this disaster because of that.

213 posted on 3/24/2017, 4:31:45 PM by DoodleDawg
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

HappyHippo fucked around with this message at 21:37 on Mar 24, 2017

Jay Rust
Sep 27, 2011

quote:

To: Mariner

REPUBLICANS IN CHARGE...

GET YOUR rear end’ES IN GEAR...OR BE REPLACED...

DO YOU WANT MORE OF HUSSEIN OBAMA LIES AND CLINTON CRIMES? THAT IS WHAT DEMOCRATS OFFER..

WAKE UP...

20 posted on 2017-03-24, 3:51:26 PM by haircutter (a)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

The Something Awful Forums > Discussion > Debate & Discussion > Freepers: HUSSEIN OBAMA LIES AND CLINTON CRIMES

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

How many dimensions of chess are you on, bro?
I dunno, like six or seven.
That's nothing. Watch this:

quote:

To: Mariner
I agree.

Ryan sure looks like a wheeler dealer now. LOL

I think Trump punked him.

I could be wrong, but I still remain unconvinced Trump didn’t see this coming.


23 posted on 3/24/2017, 3:51:58 PM by DoughtyOne (NeverTrump, a movement that was revealed to be a movement. Thank heaven we flushed!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

McGlockenshire
Dec 16, 2005

GOLLOCKS!

quote:

To: Scott from the Left Coast

Obamacare is here permanently...until the Democrats replace it with single payer government run healthcare, under a new fully socialist government.

Hey Troll, do you seriously this Ryancare would’ve been repealed in phases 2 or 3? good grief how naïve can you be!

At this point, the Dems still own Obamacare!

252 posted on 03/24/2017 1:42:23 PM PDT by Artcore (Donald J. Trump - 45th President of the United States of America!)

This was posted in an ever-increaasing font size.

quote:

To: Mariner

I know I'm late to the dance, but

Talk about "The Gang That Couldn't Shoot Straight

What a bunch of Fumducks!

254 posted on 03/24/2017 1:42:46 PM PDT by Strac6 ("We sleep safe in our beds only because rough men stand ready to visit violence on the enemy.")

PRIMARY ALL WHO OPPOSE US

quote:

To: tennmountainman

You’ll also see a political ballot box massacre in 2018.

There will be so many Republicans replaced in he primaries, it will set a record.

258 posted on 03/24/2017 1:44:27 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (NeverTrump, a movement that was revealed to be a movement. Thank heaven we flushed!)

Oh also, from reading between the lines of what Ryan said moments ago, the HFC refused to compromise and negotiate and the moderates refused to stay on board if the HFC got their way. Freep likes the HFC. Freep is threatening to primary people that disagree with the HFC.

Some freepers see this, though.

quote:

To: MaxistheBest

I like Rand Paul .... but even he just said sending Mike Pence MIGHT WORK !!!

And now I understand more the people who say the Tea Party types are impossible to work with...this was a perfect example ....I’m really amazed at how selfish these people are...

I guess their motto is “Either our way or the highway”...well for all the middleclass Americans going broke with ObamaCare it sure is the Obama Highway!!...and I’m sure very few of them are stuck with ObamaCare.


260 posted on 03/24/2017 1:45:36 PM PDT by MaxistheBest (...)

Some are also questioning the wisdom of Trump.

quote:

To: sargon

Trump have NEVER set any parameters on this bill other than it being terrific, covering everyone, and being affordable.

273 posted on 3/24/2017, 1:52:39 PM by WVMnteer

SHY NUDIST GRRL
Feb 15, 2011

Communism will help more white people than anyone else. Any equal measures unfairly provide less to minority populations just because there's less of them. Democracy is truly the tyranny of the mob.

I'm enjoying the few Freepers realizing that their hour of triumph is actually the moment when their defeat becomes complete. It was never their party, it's always been the business party.

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

McGlockenshire posted:

To: sargon

Trump have NEVER set any parameters on this bill other than it being terrific, covering everyone, and being affordable.

273 posted on 3/24/2017, 1:52:39 PM by WVMnteer

As sad as it is that Trump got elected, it's wonderful seeing the crazy dumbasses who elected him come to the startling realization that the guy who ran on a platform of vague, sweeping generalizations and claims of incredible knowledge didn't actually know anything about what he was doing.

Likewise, having such a stupid president is absolutely astounding.

McGlockenshire
Dec 16, 2005

GOLLOCKS!
From Kill the Ryan bill! Repeal the unconstitutional Obamacare or let it go bust! posted by JimRob.

quote:

A no vote on RYANcare/GOPcare is a vote FOR constitutional government.

Obamacare, RYANcare, RINOcare, GOPcare, Hillarycare, Trumpcare or ANY form of federal government mandated health care package is UNCONSTITUTIONAL! The constitution clearly reserves health care and health care insurance to the states and the PEOPLE!

The founders did not establish the federal government to be a charity or to "care for" the personal needs of the citizens. The founders never intended to create a welfare state! The constitution was intended to severely RESTRICT the powers of the federal government and to leave most governing powers to the states and the PEOPLE! The power to mandate or provide or control health care or health care insurance is not delegated to the federal government by the constitution, therefore it's reserved by the 10th amendment to the states and the people.

If they’e looking to blame someone, blame it on the founders. Blame it on the constitution.

The bill is wrong. Remember the tea party? For seven long years we’ve been demanding and voting for Republicans on a nationwide basis to repeal the unconstitutional big government socialist Obamacare. We do not want to replace it with a Republican brand of unconstitutionalism. We want it repealed, dead and gone, ripped out by the roots and the ground salted so it can never rise again.

Free markets or bust!

NO federal mandates or tinkering of any kind!

If the Republicans pass this POS, then unconstitutional federal government intrusion and mandates will be here forever (or until the rebellion anyway).

Passing this GOPcare bill sends the signal that government healthcare (some form of nationalized healthcare, socialism, single payer, etc) is perfectly fine by both major political parties and it’s just a matter of time before the democrats retake power and ram through universal single payer socialism.

Pass it and freedom is dead.

This was posted at 1:22 PM, Pacific. At this point, the vote had been canceled for what, about half an hour?

quote:

To: Jim Robinson

The bill is DEAD...at least for now and hopefully forever.

Hopefully that takes care of Ryan. People forget that Boehner was removed because he was too far to the left...then what happens, Ryan snakes his way to the top, while everyone knows he is even FURTHER LEFT. Ryan was a mistake from the start and hopefully Republicans figure that out sooner than later.

6 posted on 3/24/2017, 1:24:57 PM by BobL (In Honor of the NeverTrumpers, I declare myself as FR's first 'Imitation NeverTrumper')

quote:

To: Jim Robinson

Ryan is still referring to it as the Obamacare repeal bill.

Man that guy is dense. He thinks he can slip that by. Ah NO!

I’m with you Jim. So are 40 House Republicans.

197 Leftist Republicans were willing to support this.

We get a list of the 40, and primary every one of the rest.


9 posted on 3/24/2017, 1:26:02 PM by DoughtyOne (NeverTrump, a movement that was revealed to be a movement. Thank heaven we flushed!)

Emphasis added for extra comedy.

quote:

To: Jim Robinson

I’d like to see President Trump lead:

- Articulate why Obamacare in particular is bad.
- Articulate why excessive government involvement in general in our medical care is bad.
- Articulate why the constitutionally correct answer is for the states and especially for the people to make all the decisions that Obamacare tried to make at the federal level.

Then tell Ryan to call for another vote on a pure repeal.

15 posted on 3/24/2017, 1:28:16 PM by Pollster1 ("Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed")

quote:

To: Jim Robinson

Can’t recall ever disagreeing with you Jim, but you’re wrong here. Now they wont even be able to confirm a judge in GD Samoa. It’s all over. They’ll never get a Dem vote for anything. Ever. You think Taxes will pass now? Someone else will just take the place of Brat, Jordan and Meadows.Kaput.

16 posted on 3/24/2017, 1:29:46 PM by major-pelham

quote:

To: Jim Robinson

The brutal rules and taxes and penalties won’t just go away.

The healthcare.gov site will fall on its own.

But the other things have to be repealed or the brutal taxes the kids being covered till 26 and a bunch of other things will stay.

I fear it won’t die. It will linger and fester.

Repeal it.

Don’t replace it. You’re right.

Republicans are the single most worthless, self destructive group I know.

Too many are bought and sold.

STOP open primaries!!

Get behind ONE conservative and don’t split the vote!!

Only way to start winning primaries for conservatives.


20 posted on 3/24/2017, 1:31:25 PM by dp0622 (The only thing an upper crust cIonservative hates more than a liberal is a middle class conservative)

quote:

To: Jim Robinson

Good lord. You all realize this bill, however defecient, was supported by POTUS, the same guy we all fought to elect.

Now be happy with Obamacare. It’s not going anywhere and we will have to find the monstrosity because of the FFC (f’ing freedom caucus).

Also say goodbye to GOP house majority. POTUS just said he will not come back to Healthcare anytime soon.

22 posted on 3/24/2017, 1:31:35 PM by JerseyRepub

quote:

To: Jim Robinson

My fired so on the left are calling to gloat and my response to each has been “What are gloating about? If it’s that Ryan has demonstrated his ineptitude, then fine. But, you will find that I am in agreement with you that this turd legislation could never be polished to make it acceptable as some work of art”.

Ryan needs to be severely wounded and removed. He allowed crony capitalism to govern him.

The people were completely disrespected by this absurd legislation that is a slap in the face of all we have worked for these last 8 years.

If he ain’t whacked with a Clue by Fore and gets the message, as does his jester cohorts, then how are we to ever be a free people?

FU PR...

26 posted on 3/24/2017, 1:33:37 PM by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me - hxxps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wH-pk2vZG2M)

quote:

To: Jim Robinson

I get that repealing ObamaCare will be a harder task than replacing it.

I get that Lyin’ Ryan has no control over the House - to the extent that he couldn’t even get House Repubs to pass this replacement bill.

I get that even if it made it out of the House - the chances of a Republican controlled Senate passing it are also slim and none.

I get all this and more. That repealing ObamaCare and replacing it with NOTHING is next to impossible. That waiting for it to “collapse” or “implode” just aint gonna work. I get that it will take months - even to the midterm - before any meaningful progress can be made.

But dammit Jim. They gotta start trying all over again. And this time - they gotta focus on repeal. Not repeal and replace.

Just repeal.

Start with the individual mandate if you like. Start with repealing the coverage for illegals. Start somewhere. Anywhere. If that measure fails then pick another aspect of ObamaCare and work on that. Then return later after awhile and try again. Try until the whole bloody mess is finally repealed.

30 posted on 3/24/2017, 1:36:44 PM by Responsibility2nd

quote:

To: Jim Robinson

We have been lied to once again. We were told that if we gave them the House, the Senate and the White House, it would be gone. We did so, based on the fact that they voted for repeal almost 50 times during the obunghole administration. Now, all of a sudden, it’s a problem? No, I don’t believe so. Moreover, I will no longer allow myself to be treated this way by these rotten, filthy, traitorous, ignorant wretches. I’m giving up on the ballot box. It doesn’t work anymore.

34 posted on 3/24/2017, 1:39:52 PM by dware (I love waking up in a world with President Trump!)

quote:

To: Jim Robinson

Exactly - the proposed “stage 2” and “stage 3” was all BS. Ryan care would simply cement the basic outline of Obamacare in place. As the Heritage Foundation said, the goal was to turn health-care into a Federally-regulated utility.

I do not believe Obamacare will “go bust” nor will it “collapse.”

yes, it can and will become increasingly perverse and destructive, especially for the middle-class. But the mandates all remain in place, and it will continue to receive funding from Fed.gov, paid for with debt and printed money. I have never understood why people think it will “collapse.”

35 posted on 3/24/2017, 1:39:55 PM by PGR88

1999 regdate.

quote:

To: Jim Robinson

This is NOT a win!

REPEAL PERIOD, Should have been completed ALREADY!!!

Sad thing is so many here (Free Republic) whom years ago said the Federal Government had No Authority for it to begin with are many of those cheering on the Ryan/Trump bill! (They will play the same game as the DNC, slip it in when they think there is less watching it).

Don’t be a Fool! So many have Willfully believe Trump was going to Repeal Obamacare. But they Payed No Attention!


Wake Up Trump is NOT being Played, He is part of the Players!

Trump is in on Big Government... It just needs to be in his Favor... He NEVER was going to REPEAL Obamacare! Remember when I ask well before Trump was elected and was still running for the GOP, What do you think He is going to do? I ask people to Document what they though he was going to do, what he stood for, Yet No One would record what Trump Stood for or what He was going to do. Its because He has been and always was ALL OVER the Place.

I Say Again the Federal Government HAS to be SLAYED! There is No Fixing it for the Beast is now in Total Control and it will not go away, thus it has to be removed!

Return to God, His Order and a Moral people or continue as Slaves to the Beast and Much Darker Days Ahead!

The Enemy is within and until we deal with that Enemy we will Never be able to Deal with the Enemy’s outside the Nation.

Know this:

Return to God, a Moral people and Christendom! Anything Else if for Not! When you see the reunification of Christians into the One True Faith the Holy and Apostolic Catholic Church the End to the Darkness will be Assured... Until then PRAY for All the Lost Souls!

God Bless

36 posted on 3/24/2017, 1:40:08 PM by jafojeffsurf (Return to the Christendom, A Moral People, and Return to a Nation/s UNDER God!)

[citation needed]

quote:

To: JerseyRepub

If this bill couldn’t pass, why are you buying into the idea something worse will?

That defies logic, but I’ve seen a number of folks go down that rabbit hole.

Repeal Obmacare. It’s a simple concept, and there are votes to do it.

37 posted on 3/24/2017, 1:40:14 PM by DoughtyOne (NeverTrump, a movement that was revealed to be a movement. Thank heaven we flushed!)

This 2001 freeper is getting a little intense.

quote:

Why not repeal social security and Medicaid while we are at it? Nothing in the constitution about them. Do it now!!!!

42 posted on 3/24/2017, 1:41:42 PM by proust (Trump / Pence 2016!)

quote:

To: Responsibility2nd; Jim Robinson

I get that repealing ObamaCare will be a harder task than replacing it.

Our Leftist, Statist, Social-engineering Fed.gov operates on massive debt, and printed money. Nothing will change until that does. Its the ultimate tax. Every expensive, ridiculous social-engineering scheme can be funded.

You will never end Progressivism until The Federal Reserve is gone, and we have a currency backed by something politicians can not control.

47 posted on 3/24/2017, 1:44:23 PM by PGR88

quote:

To: JerseyRepub

You can’t see any further than your nose, can you?

I still believe Trump has a long term strategy at work here.


And just because a miserable bill didn’t make a vote today - you are willing to write off the rest of Trump’s term, the GOP majority and accept ObamaCare forever?

And blame conservatives (Freedom Caucus)?

Good Lord Indeed! There are some short sighted people here.

50 posted on 3/24/2017, 1:48:19 PM by Responsibility2nd

This is basically what Trump said in his statement today, by the way.

quote:

To: PGR88

I have never understood why people think it will “collapse.”

It's in the process of collapsing already. More and more providers dropping out of markets every month. Higher premiums and higher deductibles forcing people to go bare and just pay the penalties. Covering pre-existing conditions and covering every non-taxpaying illegal that makes it across the border pretty much assured a death spiral for obamacare unless ever increasing subsidies are provided to insurers and stiffer penalties for refuseniks are enacted - but with Trump in the White House and both houses of Congress in Republican hands those things don't have to be provided.

Doing nothing and watching it burn the whole time pointing at the Democrats and saying, "See what those bastards did!" should be the Republican plan of action - not trying to fix the Democrats mistakes and thereby taking a share in blame for the coming disaster.

55 posted on 3/24/2017, 1:52:54 PM by Garth Tater (What's mine is mine.)

A very curious take on what Trump said...

quote:

To: tumblindice

Just watched Trump talking about it. He’s begging democrats to get him out of this jam.

59 posted on 3/24/2017, 1:55:51 PM by kjam22 (America need forgiveness from God)
So everyone else has interpreted this as "no, I'm not going to blame the HFC for loving it up, I'm just going to blame the Democrats for opposing it." I wonder what made this freeper read otherwise.

quote:

To: JerseyRepub

Good lord. You all realize this bill, however defecient, was supported by POTUS, the same guy we all fought to elect.

See this is where you slant towards cult of personality. This has NOTHING to do with Trump. This isn’t about HIM. It’s about our constitution, our principles and our ability to survive. And if our President supports it as you say then ANY conservative would say it is unconstitutional and DEAD wrong.

63 posted on 3/24/2017, 2:00:17 PM by Jarhead9297

Uhhuh, sure, ok

quote:

To: SandRat

I think it’s time to mobilize the Tea Party again!

69 posted on 3/24/2017, 2:05:19 PM by marstegreg

Repealing the mandate alone would bankrupt the entire insurance industry. Repealing the requirement to insure people with preexisting conditions, which the mandate enables, would kill how many million people?

quote:

To: fortheDeclaration

And the mandate can be dealt with in a separate bill.

Thank you.

I’ve been arguing this point till I’m blue in the face. But too many people here want to argue that RyanCare was our one and only choice. And we blew it. So now we’ll never have another chance to repeal the mandate, and so we’re stuck with ObamaCare forever.

Mighty short sighted people here.

71 posted on 3/24/2017, 2:06:38 PM by Responsibility2nd

quote:

To: Oklahoma

I’m not sore at the Freedom Caucus for standing against this bill, I’m sore at the Freedom Caucus (all execpt one member) who voted for keeping Ryan as Speaker.

If they’d demonstrated some of their conservative courage back then an challenged him we would not be having this discussion today. Nor would we be having a lot more in weeks to come as long as Ryan stays in that position.

It’s just like the previous “repeal” votes which were nothing but a sham since they knew it would not happen. Fair-weather conservatives we don’t need.

73 posted on 3/24/2017, 2:09:40 PM by bigbob

Ugh, gently caress this thread

Freepers:

quote:

To: BobL

We will never get a better Speaker until there are more Dave Brat type Reps and fewer Paul Ryan types.

CANTORIZE YOUR WEASELS, AMERICA!

89 posted on 3/24/2017, 2:19:56 PM by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents - Know Islam, No Peace -No Islam, Know Peace)

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

quote:

The founders did not establish the federal government to be a charity or to "care for" the personal needs of the citizens.

Ugh, caring. Disgusting.

Bremen
Jul 20, 2006

Our God..... is an awesome God

chitoryu12 posted:

As sad as it is that Trump got elected, it's wonderful seeing the crazy dumbasses who elected him come to the startling realization that the guy who ran on a platform of vague, sweeping generalizations and claims of incredible knowledge didn't actually know anything about what he was doing.

Likewise, having such a stupid president is absolutely astounding.

Vague sweeping generalizations and overbroad promises that frequently contradicted each other, no less.

The wonder of Trump's election is that he could promise 5 contradictory things, and people could listen to all five things and then decide "well, clearly he's lying about the four I didn't like." Seriously, there's articles about people disillusioned by Trump everywhere and they all basically boil down to "Yes, I know he promised he'd destroy my life, but I was sure he didn't mean it. And I believed him when he said he'd get my coal mining job back!"

Adbot
ADBOT LOVES YOU

SocketWrench
Jul 8, 2012

by Fritz the Horse
^ All I've seen has been "I didn't vote you in for that despite you repeatedly saying you would" or women that voted for him suddenly being shocked he's a sexist rear end in a top hat or freep realizing he's not that great a politician. It's not like you could see this all through the campaign. It's just that Republican conservatives can be coerced into anything as long as you use the right shock words. Kind of like a more sophisticated version of Lois Griffin running for mayor by answering everything with poo poo about terrorists and 9/11. Democrats are evil because we're a strongly religious party, watch Fox News for "fair and balanced" proof. They get taken every time and never see it till they're neck deep in poo poo.

Duke Igthorn posted:

TRUMP PROMISED UHC DURING THE CAMPAIGN. Straight up promises everyone everywhere gets all the coverage they need paid for by the government, he ran on that, he said "I don't care if it costs me republican votes". WE know Trump is a lying scumbag but YOU are supposed to be true believers who take his word as gospel!

It's...it's ALMOST like being a politician and running a business are two different things and this 70 year old man is finding it impossible to suddenly change his entire way of thinking on a dime and you shouldn't hire someone to do a job they have no experience actually doing!! If ONLY someone had repeatedly told you this before now!

Well, "Ryancare" is realistically poo poo, there's no avoiding that. And they were fed by every outlet they listened to that the AHA was poo poo too, so they want it gone. Most of them don't care about healthcare, they just can't stand or fell for the whole "Obamacare is murder squads"

SocketWrench fucked around with this message at 23:28 on Mar 24, 2017

  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
  • Post
  • Reply