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NmareBfly posted:Because now that I think of that just goes to show how much belter babies are valued. Earth babies happen on Earth, Mars babies happen on Mars. Belter nurseries are farms because the 'people' that emerge just more grist for the mill for the inners to chew up and digest. I initially forgot that these are belter kids we're talking about. What? Ganymede is a farm in the traditional sense of providing crops for food--hence the greenhouse domes and orbital mirrors. It just also happens to be a good place to go and have kids. "Farm" isn't some weird pejorative implying the low value of belter life.
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Baronjutter posted:The whole economy and living conditions in the expanse is really lovely. It all feels like super short term temporary infrastructure that's been pressed into long term service without any long term plan... Literally what the world is now.
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Mar 24, 2017 22:02
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Baronjutter posted:This is why everyone should be living on self-sufficient space wheels or space tubes. The whole economy and living conditions in the expanse is really lovely. It all feels like super short term temporary infrastructure that's been pressed into long term service without any long term plan because who the gently caress cares about belters so long as the resources keep coming. And the belters of course see none of the profit of their own labour so have no resources to improve things. The entire belt is like a giant company town. Well the cost of those things are probably pretty prohibitive. Like people on Earth and Mars would get pissy if you diverted a bunch of resources from them to build a fancy space town for rich people. It's a universe with limited resources and that has some consequences.
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Mar 24, 2017 22:03
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Baronjutter posted:So Star Helix are basically local belter mercs that the "inners" hire to impose their rule on various belt colonies and installations? Yes, it's literally colonialism 101
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Mar 24, 2017 22:22
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I was going to ask when belters are going to start getting their hands chopped off for not meeting ice quotas but that's pretty much the opening scene in the series.
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Baronjutter posted:I was going to ask when belters are going to start getting their hands chopped off for not meeting ice quotas but that's pretty much the opening scene in the series. The Belgian Congo has been inspiring SF writers for decades 
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Another thing to consider is that any non-Belter ship would be a prime target for pirates, and with Earth and Mars in the middle of a massive military crisis, they're not likely to want to allocate warships to guard any potential relief effort even if they cared enough to try and send one. The more radical factions of the OPA are gaining more power, and I bet any inner transport ship full of supplies would look like a great target to them. "We commandeered this shipment of goods that were going to feed the Inyalowda soldiers who wrecked Eros and Ganymede and give it to the Belters who need it." is probably a statement that Dawes or the more radical factions of the OPA could use to great effect.
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theghostpt posted:There are no silent J's in Portuguese damnit Yeah but Hanus isn't funny. I teasing dude I know Portuguese J is not the same as Spanish J. gohmak fucked around with this message at 00:24 on Mar 25, 2017 |
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Mar 25, 2017 00:21
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A bunch of relief ships from Earth will just get turned away/shot at because they might actually be chock full of troops and surface to orbit guns or whatever. And a bunch of Martian relief ships starting the however many week journey to Ganymede are just begging to get interdicted by Earth for the same reason.
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Mar 25, 2017 00:48
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I felt like this was the weakest episode of the entire season so far. Like...nothing really happened. But Weeping Somnambulist is an awesome name
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Mar 25, 2017 01:20
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Subyng posted:I felt like this was the weakest episode of the entire season so far. Like...nothing really happened. Avasarala's lines alone made it amazing though.
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Mar 25, 2017 01:25
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I have so much respect for that actress for so many reasons, but one of the best things is how at the drop of a hat she can just exude power.
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Benagain posted:I have so much respect for that actress for so many reasons, but one of the best things is how at the drop of a hat she can just exude power. I never got why people liked Avasarala in the books so much. I didn't dislike her really but the whole "grandma with an attitude" never really did it for me. Shohreh Aghdashloo's take on her though has made her probably my favourite character on the show. Every scene with her is amazing. That whole interview scene with Bobbie was great.
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johnsonrod posted:I never got why people liked Avasarala in the books so much. I didn't dislike her really but the whole "grandma with an attitude" never really did it for me. Shohreh Aghdashloo's take on her though has made her probably my favourite character on the show. Every scene with her is amazing. That whole interview scene with Bobbie was great. I liked her immediately because I immediately had Aghdashloo's voice in my head when she's just swearing at people, dropping sick burns on others, and generally being the most powerful woman on Earth. So, when they announced the casting...
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Nice. Edit: The Emmys for Best Actress and Best Supporting Actress should go to Aghdashloo and her voice, respectively. Accretionist fucked around with this message at 04:02 on Mar 25, 2017 |
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Subyng posted:I felt like this was the weakest episode of the entire season so far. Like...nothing really happened. Holden was running out of things to mope about. Phew, close one.
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gohmak posted:After a devastating nuclear apocalypse wiped out almost all life on Earth. The only known survivors lived on twelve space stations in Earth's orbit prior to the apocalyptic event. The space stations banded together to form a single massive station called "The Ark", where about 2,400 people live under the leadership of Chancellor Jaha.[1] Resources are scarce, so all crimes – regardless of their nature or severity – are punishable by ejection into space ("floating") unless the perpetrator is under 18 years of age. lol what synopsis is this from? Dang, I wanna watch that.
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BarronsArtGallery posted:lol what synopsis is this from? Dang, I wanna watch that. Show called The 100, I stopped watching cause it got very teen drama-y. Not sure if I should try again...
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Smiling Jack posted:This works in both directions, going from high g to low and vice versa. Special effects budgets limit it on screen but martians or lunies or belters on low g stations should be seen bouncing down hallways and caroming around corners like parkour practitioners on crack cocaine while Earthers would have to concentrate on walking down the hall without accidentally jumping five feet in the air. One of the books mentioned how hard it is for earthers/martians to keep up with a belter on the float.
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AirborneNinja posted:One of the books mentioned how hard it is for earthers/martians to keep up with a belter on the float. Not just the float, it would also show up on Mars / Luna / Eros etc First time you tried to run you'd find yourself jumping ten feet in the air. https://youtu.be/HKdwcLytloU Keep.in mind that suit weighs 180lbs. Smiling Jack fucked around with this message at 05:57 on Mar 25, 2017 |
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Smiling Jack posted:Not just the float, it would also show up on Mars / Luna / Eros etc  No it doesn't. It masses 81.6 kg and weights around 30 lbs.
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Number Ten Cocks posted:
Pretty sure the A7L weighs about 180-200lbsand sources back me up. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo/Skylab_A7L
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Uh... In that video, it does not weigh 180-200 lbs. That's why the distinction between weight and mass exists. 
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Number Ten Cocks posted:Uh... In that video, it does not weigh 180-200 lbs. Number Ten Cocks posted:Uh... In that video, it does not weigh 180-200 lbs. My point is that the suit weighs 180lbs in earth gravity, so keep that in mind when watching the video.
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Smiling Jack posted:The show actually goes a bit more in depth than the books, there's a big difference between training there, living there, and growing up there, as referenced by the magic bone density pills (which I guess are either hideously expensive or have massive long term side effexts or all the Martians would take them) It wouldn't be worth it unless you were going to Earth. Bone density is loss is a serious concern of any long term space mission in the current day.
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Macdeo Lurjtux posted:It wouldn't be worth it unless you were going to Earth. Bone density is loss is a serious concern of any long term space mission in the current day. Yes, which is why they should be taking magic bone pill on Mars as well but they aren't. Unless magic bone pill is only effective at higher G... Okay that makes sense Anyway NASA did a year long study on a pair of twins, https://www.google.com/amp/amp.space.com/35527-nasa-astronaut-twins-study-early-results.html This was a one year study conducted on adults, imagine the differences if one of them had been born and raised in a low g environment. Born and raised in a zero g environment would be  if it's even possible
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Smiling Jack posted:Born and raised in a zero g environment would be Apparently low G fucks up your eyes pretty bad due to fluid build up in (around?) the brain. No telling what that will do long term or during childhood development.
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Smiling Jack posted:Born and raised in a zero g environment would be I think it was The Moon is a Harsh Mistress which mentioned lunar babies having to be born via c-section otherwise their skull would be crushed by their mothers pelvic bones. The Expanses description of belters having oversized egg heads would probably cause some birthing troubles.
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Smiling Jack posted:Yes, which is why they should be taking magic bone pill on Mars as well but they aren't. That study was specifically for the effect of micro gravity on humans though. We still don't know how much gravity is required to prevent those kind of negative effects (vision impairment, bone density and muscle loss etc). That's because we've never had humans living in a low g environment for longer than Apollo 17 which was about 3 days. There was a Centrifuge Module proposed for the ISS to study that but it was cancelled. That's also another reason some people want to see a long term lunar mission, so we can see what the effects of low g (0.16 of earths on the moon) on the human body. It could turn out that living in low g isn't all that bad for you.
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It wouldn't shock me if Mars-like or maybe even Moon-like gravity were enough for mostly normal health, but some of the crappier Belt stations are at like 2% Earth gravity. Not that intuition counts for much, but that seems way likelier to cause problems.
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I think being raised at 1g and then living on Mars would have health advantages that outweigh the disadvantages
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Smiling Jack posted:The Belgian Congo has been inspiring SF writers for decades No one's been cutting off hands yet. I was looking at the wiki and apparently in the books there are extra-solar colonies? Has that been mentioned in the show? I wonder how much it costs to sent interplanetary texts?
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twistedmentat posted:I was looking at the wiki and apparently in the books there are extra-solar colonies? Has that been mentioned in the show? You're into future season territory. You should probably stay away from that stuff.
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Number Ten Cocks posted:You're into future season territory. You should probably stay away from that stuff. If you're not all caught up on something, nothing good can come from reading the wiki, no matter how diligent they are about putting spoiler warnings at the top of each page. I had the big twist to Knights of the Old Republic spoiled for me because I decided to look up something completely unrelated on Wookieepedia.
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404notfound posted:If you're not all caught up on something, nothing good can come from reading the wiki, no matter how diligent they are about putting spoiler warnings at the top of each page. I had the big twist to Knights of the Old Republic spoiled for me because I decided to look up something completely unrelated on Wookieepedia. What i posted was literally just a link in an unrelated article, that was about it. Nothing plot related. Honestly, until it was mentioned I assumed it was just nothing but background. I did get spoiled that Draper joins the Roci crew at some point, which is fine because that's more of a look forward too moment than a 'crap story ruined' also if they ever go back to Tycho, Draper and Drummer can have a tought as balls lady off.
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Draper is confused and emotional and generally totally lost at the moment. She folded and got emotional and let everything slip out after the slightest bit of probing during the last episode. She's soft. I don't care how good your combat simulation scores are, until you can casually shoot two dudes in the head while limping out of a room you can't really compete with Drummer. She has her poo poo 100% together, no blubbering.
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Baronjutter posted:Draper is confused and emotional and generally totally lost at the moment. She folded and got emotional and let everything slip out after the slightest bit of probing during the last episode. She's soft. I don't care how good your combat simulation scores are, until you can casually shoot two dudes in the head while limping out of a room you can't really compete with Drummer. She has her poo poo 100% together, no blubbering. Moments after regaining consciousness, too. https://giant.gfycat.com/DapperDrearyGelada.mp4
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Good point. I did love how Drummer was not the traitor plus she clearly isn't loyal at all to the OPA, at least the more extreme factions.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZeuWAT9zgA CANNED CHICKEN!!! I DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH CHICKEN!!!!!!!!
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Baronjutter posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZeuWAT9zgA I hope we're going to get Amos's whole thing about the canned chicken!! 
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