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TL posted:Wired did a really good oral history of MST3K a few years ago, where Kevin (I think it was him) said he never thought Joel and Jim liked each other, and Joel went on to say Jim's insistence on directing the movie was the straw that broke the camel's back. That reminds me of a question I had, didn't Mallon or someone hold the rights to the show, and that's why Mike and Joel had to move on to things like Rifftrax and Cinematic Titanic, because they couldn't use anything from mst3k? So how did Joel get the rights back, did they bury the hatchet, or was that the first of the Kickstarter goals, "give Jim a pile of money for the rights?"
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turn left hillary!! noo posted:That reminds me of a question I had, didn't Mallon or someone hold the rights to the show, and that's why Mike and Joel had to move on to things like Rifftrax and Cinematic Titanic, because they couldn't use anything from mst3k? So how did Joel get the rights back, did they bury the hatchet, or was that the first of the Kickstarter goals, "give Jim a pile of money for the rights?" Shout Factory (who had been producing the DVD sets on license from Jim) bought out the rights. IIRC they had been discussing a reboot of the show with Joel before then but getting the rights away from Jim was what made it finally possible. I think Jim was also somehow impeding digital distribution of the show which is why RiffTrax started selling MST3K eps digitally shortly after the buyout. Mr.Radar fucked around with this message at 14:22 on Mar 25, 2017 |
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Mallon couldn't find a good way to make money with the show after years of trying. At one point he made a website with flash-animated cartoons where he did Gypsy's voice, as that was the only thing he had access to to make new content.
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Mar 25, 2017 14:20
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Mallon actually went through a bit of a personal crisis a few years back and ended up starting a new career as a therapist. This is entirely just my speculation now, but it could be that that played a role in him being willing to give up the show.
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Diabolik900 posted:Mallon actually went through a bit of a personal crisis a few years back and ended up starting a new career as a therapist. This is entirely just my speculation now, but it could be that that played a role in him being willing to give up the show. Is there an article about this somewhere? Sounds interesting. Also, I'm watching Jack Frost for the first time, and this movie kind of owns.
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egon_beeblebrox posted:Is there an article about this somewhere? Sounds interesting. I don't think it's widely known. I don't have it handy, but I saw a link posted somewhere a few months ago to his profile on some psychology website which talked about it a little. There wasn't much more detail than what I already posted though.
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egon_beeblebrox posted:Is there an article about this somewhere? Sounds interesting. Make an appointment today!
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Ah Jeez, just reading that made me sad, and harder to be mad at Mallon. Sorry to hear he lost his daughter 
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egon_beeblebrox posted:Also, I'm watching Jack Frost for the first time, and this movie kind of owns. I agree. It's delightfully batshit and never stands still for too long.
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bunnyofdoom posted:Ah Jeez, just reading that made me sad, and harder to be mad at Mallon. I might not have loved his choices for what he did with the MST3K brand, but I respect and admire him for using a personal tragedy as the impetus to do some good in the world. Good for him.
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TL posted:I might not have loved his choices for what he did with the MST3K brand, but I respect and admire him for using a personal tragedy as the impetus to do some good in the world. Good for him. I just wish we'd have gotten some warning that the old mst3k.com store that he ran for so many years was about to vanish with the buyout. I missed my chance to get a You Know You Want Me, Baby T-shirt. I thought they'd always be there. 
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Powered Descent posted:I just wish we'd have gotten some warning that the old mst3k.com store that he ran for so many years was about to vanish with the buyout. I missed my chance to get a You Know You Want Me, Baby T-shirt. I thought they'd always be there. there was a big clearance thing just before it shut down and I got a mousepad and t-shirt for like $1 each or something
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There's about eight hours left in this year's Rifftrax kickstarter. Like Rifftrax shorts? Toss them one dollar in the kickstarter, you'll get ten of them, plus some extra goodies. I think a short is easily a dime's worth of entertainment. https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/rifftrax/rifftrax-live-17-samurai-cop-beach-party-and-myste?ref=nav_search
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I honestly didn't know that about Mallon. Sad to hear he lost his daughter, but glad to hear he was able to work through his grief and turn it into a way to help others. Hope he has a long and successful career as a therapist. 
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Powered Descent posted:There's about eight hours left in this year's Rifftrax kickstarter. Like Rifftrax shorts? Toss them one dollar in the kickstarter, you'll get ten of them, plus some extra goodies. I think a short is easily a dime's worth of entertainment. Not only that, but you get a Rifftrax mp3 for what's almost definitely going to be Batman v Superman.
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Mar 25, 2017 18:21
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Gavok posted:Not only that, but you get a Rifftrax mp3 for what's almost definitely going to be Batman v Superman. I don't even think Rifftrax could make that movie watchable.
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Big Mean Jerk posted:I don't even think Rifftrax could make that movie watchable. I was drunk and alone in a theater with my brother. We tried MST-ing it and only made it to "Martha" before we got bored and left.
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HannibalBarca posted:I was drunk and alone in a theater with my brother. We tried MST-ing it and only made it to "Martha" before we got bored and left. I saw it with my dad, who was absolutely astonished at how lovely and grim it was. The only way a Rifftrax of BvS would be worth watching is if they gave it the MST3K treatment and edited it to 90 minutes and had 3 or 4 breaks to recuperate and process what the movie is doing to your brain.
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Mar 25, 2017 20:31
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I liked Batman v Superman v v
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It's a good movie. Good visuals, good music, pretty good acting. Not really a movie for everyone though. Really feel for you if your Lex Luthor is a suave businessman and not a broken nerd.
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I loved Man of Steel, but BvS was one of the worst movies I've ever seen. I hope Justice League is better. Anyway, The Horrors of Spider Island is a tough movie to get through. It took me about four tries to get through it.
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egon_beeblebrox posted:Anyway, The Horrors of Spider Island is a tough movie to get through. It took me about four tries to get through it. The one that's always bothered me about that is that two of the host segments are clearly in the wrong order. Like, the one where Mike is caught in the giant web references something that hasn't even happened in the movie yet. ...I should really just relax, shouldn't I?
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The last thing you can say about Batman v Superman is that nothing happens, so I'm sure they'll be OK with the riff. What's the last superhero movie RiffTrax did, anyway? fake edit: The Avengers.
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Powered Descent posted:The one that's always bothered me about that is that two of the host segments are clearly in the wrong order. Like, the one where Mike is caught in the giant web references something that hasn't even happened in the movie yet. I don't know if you noticed, but that would happen ALL THE GODDAMN TIME in the show. Teenagers from Outer Space, the Willy The Waffle skit which was years before they actually did Springs Just all the time they did skits out of order with the movie.
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Mar 25, 2017 22:25
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Burkion posted:I don't know if you noticed, but that would happen ALL THE GODDAMN TIME in the show. Joey the lemur, too. That's an odd sketch anyway.
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Mar 25, 2017 22:30
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What's the deal with Pod People? It really feels like two different movies stitched together at the last minute.
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Big Mean Jerk posted:What's the deal with Pod People? It really feels like two different movies stitched together at the last minute. My understanding is all the stuff with the kid was a late addition to the script to cash in on ET's success.
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egon_beeblebrox posted:Anyway, The Horrors of Spider Island is a tough movie to get through. It took me about four tries to get through it. I actually really love Horrors of Spider Island. The sleaze was hilarious and I can quote from it at least.
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When out to some thrift stores, where I found someone had dumped their polka collection, including Daddy-O lead Dick Contino. They had a few, but the cover sold me on this one, so I bought it. Listened to it and... yeah, it's polka. Not my thing, but still, neat to have.
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What the gently caress is up with their positions? Is Dick Contino some kind of event horizon?
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The Unlife Aquatic posted:Is Dick Contino some kind of event horizon? Yes
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Mar 25, 2017 23:50
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Dick Contino is also the lead character of a hard-boiled James Elroy novel. There's some accordion in it, if I recall correctly.
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Jack Gladney posted:Dick Contino is also the lead character of a hard-boiled James Elroy novel. There's some accordion in it, if I recall correctly. Because nothing really sets the atmosphere for noir like folksy accordion songs.
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The Unlife Aquatic posted:Because nothing really sets the atmosphere for noir like folksy accordion songs. The six double bourbons were still pounding at my head like a ton of bricks when some dark-haired dame closed walked into my office. 
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Actually it occurs to me that there is a hard-boiled detective in A Very Long Engagement, which I imagine doesn't have quite as much accordian music as Amelie, but has got to at least have some.
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egon_beeblebrox posted:
The Russo-Finnish movies are kind of the best ones they did. They're gorgeous to look at and really well-made, it's just localization issues that make them seem goofy. (He's not Sinbad!)
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Jack Gladney posted:Dick Contino is also the lead character of a hard-boiled James Elroy novel. There's some accordion in it, if I recall correctly. It also has some direct references to filming Daddy-O. Its called "Dick Contino's Blues," and can be found in a few anthologies I believe.
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egon_beeblebrox posted:Joey the lemur, too. That's an odd sketch anyway. Wait, that was a reference to something?
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Been watching the episodes on Netflix and been enjoying it. I was wondering thought, what night did new episodes of MST3k air and what kind of TV ratings did it get when it was on air?
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CortezFantastic posted:Been watching the episodes on Netflix and been enjoying it. I was wondering thought, what night did new episodes of MST3k air and what kind of TV ratings did it get when it was on air? It aired practically everywhere and ratings weren't published back then like they are today. They shuffled its timeslot around like crazy.
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