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Koramei posted:The Pacific's a whole lot more interesting than the Atlantic is, and in this type the densest parts of the world are close to the center rather than right on the sides. It isn't really that much better as far as your second point goes. 
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Center the map in India, cut the American continent in half.
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A Buttery Pastry posted:Sure, but land is more interesting than ocean, so splitting the Pacific and putting more land nearer the center is better for most purposes. As for your other point, give it a few decades and Africa will justify a Eurafrican-centric map in terms of population too. Africa isn't gonna outpace the like 3.5 billion people in South + Southeast + East Asia that are conventionally right towards the side of the map. I agree with your other point though. I don't have a problem with either style (America-in-the-middle can go gently caress its self though), but I definitely don't think Asia-centric is any worse than Europe-centric, except that I've been brought up with the latter. Definitely nothing weird about people in Asia favoring it.
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Peanut President posted:"yeah put africa at the far edge of the map where they belong" tsk tsk Leave the Atlantic Ocean whole and use Mercator so you can plot routes for your slave ships. #coloniallifehacks
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imo Atlantic-centric maps are better because the most distortion happens at the edges and the corners, and the edges and corners of an Atlantic-centric map are the two halves of the Pacific Ocean, Alaska, and Siberia, leading to minimal distortion of important places where people live. Whereas Pacific-centric maps waste a lot of their least-distorted space on a giant body of water and end up distorting half the world's landmass instead.
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IMO Eurocentric maps are good because I'm European.
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Isn't it about time for a new thread? 1000 pages, woah.
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If a map is meant to be used most in a particular country, it should have the country as close to the center as practical. 
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Page 1000 requires maps from 1000 AD
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Oscar "Best Picture" nominees by Facebook Likes 1. Hidden Figures  2. La La Land  3. Arrival  4. Hacksaw Ridge  5. Fences  6. Manchester by the Sea (lol)  7. Lion  8. Hell or High Water  9. Moonlight
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QuoProQuid posted:Oscar "Best Picture" nominees by Facebook Likes 
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fishmech posted:If a map is meant to be used most in a particular country, it should have the country as close to the center as practical.  :newzealand: QuoProQuid posted:
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Negrostrike posted:Page 1000 requires maps from 1000 AD What game is this? Actual map of 1000AD, I don't know enough about the period to speak to its accuracy, but taken from http://www.worldhistorymaps.info/images/East-Hem_1000ad.jpg:  turns out that even if we look at 1000AD, there's still no data on Western Sahara Elyv fucked around with this message at 22:38 on Mar 25, 2017 |
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I'm the Unknown Kingdom of Cardiff and Newport.
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What about 800,000 Poles in UK??
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Kennel posted:What about 800,000 Poles in UK?? Give it two years and the joke will work again
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Elyv posted:What game is this? Chrono Trigger
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QuoProQuid posted:Oscar "Best Picture" nominees by Facebook Likes La La Land was Hollywood navel gazing, Appalachia loves The Troops, the black belt loves movies about black people but not quite so much if said black people are gay, and New England creams its chowdah over anyone named Affleck
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oldswitcheroo posted:La La Land was Hollywood navel gazing, Appalachia loves The Troops, the black belt loves movies about black people but not quite so much if said black people are gay, and New England creams its chowdah over anyone named Affleck Moonlight's is basically "Liberal urban centres: the map"
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Elyv posted:Is there no evidence of people on Madagascar and New Zealand ~4000-5000 years ago? Nope. Both archipeligos did have awesome fuckoff huge birds though. New Zealand had the Moa and the terrifying Haast's Eagle (bigger than a Condor, may have hunted people).  For its part, Madascar had the Elephant Bird the largest of which were more than nine feet tall and weighed more than a thousand pounds. They're basically Pleistocene megafauna meets island gigantism meets lol this island has no large mammals. Moa and Elephant Birds have probably been extinct for less than five hundred years, btw. Surviving modern relative... The Kiwi. Polynesians liked hunting things though and these giant flightless birds were apparently pretty tasty, so they went the way of the Dodo, the Sollitaire, and the Great Auk. loving sailors, man. Antarctica is attacking!
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Duckbag posted:New Zealand had the Moa and the terrifying Haast's Eagle (bigger than a Condor, may have hunted people). Oh? And what happened to it? Not so tough now, is it.
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Ofaloaf posted:I ain't gonna play no guessing games. Then it's absurd. The Arameans are way too big, for a start; they were nowhere near establishing themselves in southern Iraq at this point as far as I am aware. I like how they basically went with "lol I dunno" for Media and Mazandaran. Phrygian kingdom didn't get that big until the 800's at the earliest. I could go on.
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Please do; do you know any really good maps for the bronze age world?
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Phlegmish posted:Oh? And what happened to it? Not so tough now, is it. According to the wikipedia entry, the Moa got hunted to extinction because it was delicious and the eagles starved after that.
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Ofaloaf posted:I ain't gonna play no guessing games. FTFY
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Koramei posted:Africa isn't gonna outpace the like 3.5 billion people in South + Southeast + East Asia that are conventionally right towards the side of the map. I agree with your other point though. For now though, this is the optimal map projection:  - As centered on the most populous areas is can be without cutting major landmasses up, and equal area to boot. Plus New Zealand becomes more easily visible, and it puts the Arctic and Antarctica more into focus, which is not a bad idea in these days of climate change.
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The Sin of Onan posted:Then it's absurd. The Arameans are way too big, for a start; they were nowhere near establishing themselves in southern Iraq at this point as far as I am aware. I like how they basically went with "lol I dunno" for Media and Mazandaran. Phrygian kingdom didn't get that big until the 800's at the earliest. I could go on. Northern Iran was "dozens of tribes in mountains who chucked javelins at anyone who comes near them" during the early bronze age as far as sources tell us.
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Platystemon posted:Leave the Atlantic Ocean whole and use Mercator so you can plot routes for your slave ships. So what you're saying is it's a a map projection which gives Africans a lot of concern?
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oldswitcheroo posted:La La Land was Hollywood navel gazing, Appalachia loves The Troops, the black belt loves movies about black people but not quite so much if said black people are gay, and New England creams its chowdah over anyone named Affleck Other interesting details: La La Land is wildly popular in Utah and several other Mormon-dense counties. There is zero interest in sci-fi in the Deep South, nor any interest in Mel Gibson in the Black Belt.
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Otherwise noteworthy is that you can see Lynchburg, VA and its surrounding county on the Hacksaw Ridge map because it's about a hometown hero.
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oxford_town posted:NZ is not even 1000 years. The ancestors of the Māori settled around 700 years ago. Why was that?
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Quorum posted:Otherwise noteworthy is that you can see Lynchburg, VA and its surrounding county on the Hacksaw Ridge map because it's about a hometown hero. This is like Moonlight where it's pretty much just a big city movie except for Florida, where it's popular because it's set in Florida. There's absolutely a cultural/demographic element to these maps but drat if the obvious lesson isn't "people like to see where they live in a movie, so the surefire way to gross trillions domestically is to make sure your movie explicitly visits every single county in the US with enough movie theaters"
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Mister Olympus posted:This is like Moonlight where it's pretty much just a big city movie except for Florida, where it's popular because it's set in Florida. Truth, everyone loves movies in their hometown. On the thirtieth anniversary of the release of Ferris Bueller's Day Off, Chicago held a re-creation of the parade scene in Daley Plaza, complete with Danke Schoen and Twist and Shout.
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Jerry Cotton posted:Why was that? It's simply an inconvenient place to get to, even with really nice boats and excellent seafaring skills. And you definitely need both in order to successfully get there. Meanwhile, Australia had gotten its first human residents somewhere between 40,000 and 60,000 years ago, because it was fairly easily reachable with land bridges from lower sea levels combined with relatively short distances at sea to get from the Eurasian continent down to the Australian mainland. This is a rough illustration of what the land and sea levels were like ~50,000 years ago in the area, which pretty well illustrates how it was much easier to get to Australia from Eurasia:  As you might expect, this also means there's probably lots of interesting archaelogical sites down on the current sea floor that would make it easier to determine when the migration actually happened. But also note how even with all that lowered sea level, New Zealand is still quite a ways away across open ocean - somewhere around 2 weeks by a basic modern sailboat, longer if you have bad luck with the winds. In comparison, the ocean distances that had to be crossed by those just seeking to get to Australia, especially during ice ages with much greater shorelines in the area, would easily stay under a day of sailing or rowing. Even today with greater water distances involved you could get from Eurasia to Australia without sailing on open ocean for more than about 2 or 3 days at a time between islands and continents.
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fishmech posted:Evolution isn't real because there are no lobster people on New Zealand.  (Thanks, though.)
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vyelkin posted:Give it two years and the joke will work again There's even more Poles in Germany But it's a good joke
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