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A lot of people pretended to say they played suikoden 2 just now
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Mar 23, 2017 23:37
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it's probably a good sign if you have to reach back to a twenty year old game for your arbitrary "worse than" section
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Mar 23, 2017 23:48
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Tae posted:A lot of people pretended to say they played suikoden 2 just now uh, is it that hard to believe people played a fairly popular game wizard on a water slide posted:and also a game starting slow or being long isn't a good or bad thing, it's just a thing.
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Mar 23, 2017 23:53
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Who the gently caress is GM
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Mar 24, 2017 00:02
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I like to think it stands for grandma.
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Mar 24, 2017 00:10
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GamesMaster_(magazine) They gave it a 95
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Mar 24, 2017 00:10
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as the actual Games Master I'm going to sue the hell out of those brits.
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Mar 24, 2017 00:19
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aaauuuuuuugh,......,,,, a Games's Master........
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Mar 24, 2017 01:27
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Which DLC replaces my battle song with P thirty eiiiiiiiiight macchiiiiine criiiiiiiiiiiies
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Mar 24, 2017 01:40
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Endorph posted:uh, is it that hard to believe people played a fairly popular game Huh? I meant a lot of people didn't immediately recognize 3d model screenshot for very 2d sprite suikoden game.
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Mar 24, 2017 01:54
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you could watch the godfather in the time it took you to get to the first free day in Persona 4 so im glad 5 lets me squeeze the godfather 2 in there
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Mar 24, 2017 02:20
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wouldn't mission impossible be more appropriate?
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Mar 24, 2017 12:50
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https://twitter.com/ZeoMassicot/status/845304086643695616 no wonder they delayed it to make it dual audio
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Mar 25, 2017 12:14
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lol
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Mar 25, 2017 12:15
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Latest on the grapevine is that Atlus JP told 'em to pronounce it like that We Resident Evil 1 now
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Mar 25, 2017 12:18
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Relin posted:https://twitter.com/ZeoMassicot/status/845304086643695616 Too bad they couldn't delay it enough to make the font good.
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Mar 25, 2017 12:45
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Last Celebration posted:Too bad they couldn't delay it enough to make the font good. Yeah, that askew date in the corner is just ugly.
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Mar 25, 2017 12:47
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Meanwhile even Yoko "loving" Taro can ship an RPG with excellent EN localization included on the JP disk and you don't even have to wait 8 months 
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Mar 25, 2017 13:10
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Hnnnngh my friend got this poo poo two weeks early and he finally spilled the beans where his hookup is... if I didn't have the steelbook preordered with 20% off and a quantum physics test next week to study for, I'd be playing this poo poo in like an hour.
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Mar 25, 2017 14:18
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Kay Kessler posted:Yeah, that askew date in the corner is just ugly. I've heard people criticize the font and the text presentation in general, usually based on screenshots of the combat menu, but I dig the style. If awkward dates and Socom-oto are the price I have to pay for the style in the rest of the game, it's a good deal. Hopefully the rest of the localization is up to par with Catherine instead of... yeah, Socom-oto.
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Mar 25, 2017 14:18
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Socom-oto is actually closer to how an actual Japanese person would pronounce it. Watch Sakamoto Desu Ga on crunchy or something, you can kind of hear it. The problem is that the stress/intonation is totally off. Presumably some Japanese person told the VA the proper pronounciation then hosed off without couching her on it.
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Mar 25, 2017 14:23
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Uhh, no. It would be pronounced sa-ka-mo-to without any real emphasis on any particular syllable because that's how Japanese works. Each a sound is like an English "ah". https://twitter.com/randomfox/status/845414021327044610 You can compare here. I think the real issue with the English pronunciation is that the vowels are cut off. Also, the fact that each syllable rises is weird and not the usual way it would be mispronounced in English. I think it would sound better if it were said in a way more similar to how you would say "Quasimodo". The ending "to" also transitions into kind of a dipthong, like "toe", which really shouldn't be there and sounds really bad if you know Japanese or notice the difference. totalnewbie fucked around with this message at 14:54 on Mar 25, 2017 |
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Mar 25, 2017 14:42
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it's closer than how I've heard it mispronounced in a lot of stuff, is what I meant. Either way, trying too hard to get the 'correct' pronounciation usually leads to stuff like this. I think it's better to say it wrong and at least have it flow naturally then sound really weird like this. It isn't really the VA's fault, though.
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Mar 25, 2017 14:54
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Weird! But yeah after playing Zelda for three weeks, I can take a dub that flows well as long it sounds like this isn't everyone's first time reading the script. also super nitpicky but yeah I'm really not wild about that font
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Mar 25, 2017 15:02
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Going back to that gm thing, it's entirely a decent point because even gaming darling Zelda was lambasted for a pretty slow and lengthy tutorial in skyward sword and Twilight Princess. And on the other hand, to be fair, if you buy persona 5, you're in for a long, long haul. 5 hours is nothing when a normal playthrough might take you 100 hours. Like for Zelda, those long tutorials at 3 to 4 hours might represent almost 20 to 25% of a standard playthrough. For persona, 5 hours of tutorial would only represent 5% of your standard playthrough.
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Mar 25, 2017 15:02
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If she had just had a lower but steady inflection on "saka" and rose with "moto", it would take most of the weirdness out of it.
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Mar 25, 2017 15:03
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Ineffiable posted:Going back to that gm thing, it's entirely a decent point because even gaming darling Zelda was lambasted for a pretty slow and lengthy tutorial in skyward sword and Twilight Princess. Also your Zelda example seems to imply that Twilight Princess and Skyward Sword are like 12 - 15 hour games, when they're more like 30 or 40, maybe even 50 if you're a completionist. The problem with those tutorials is that it's doing constant explanation of poo poo like Herding Goats and Feeding A Cat where Persona you're just watching cutscenes and selecting choices sometimes so you can really just set the text scroll auto and check your phone. i've started many new games on p4 and done exactly that
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Mar 25, 2017 15:17
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Twilight Princess and skyward sword do have tutorials that are way more interactive than your persona 'tutorial' And skyward sword is also infamous for doing tutorial stuff hours after you start. Especially with fi wasting your time telling you about stuff. I can see why it can go up to 30+ hours, but even then the tutorials represent a good 10% of the game then. In persona, it seems like once you get going, you keep going at your own pace/schedule.
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Mar 25, 2017 15:38
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Don't try to copy Japanese pronunciation when you have no idea how to speak Japanese and when you are speaking English for an English voice acting role. Even if it's wrong in Japanese, the way it would slip out when she's just casually speaking is bound to be infinitely more pleasing to the ear than whatever the gently caress that was.
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Mar 25, 2017 15:41
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Josuke Higashikata posted:Don't try to copy Japanese pronunciation when you have no idea how to speak Japanese and when you are speaking English for an English voice acting role. apparently the voice director told her to do it that way, and following the voice director's instructions is the va's job still a fuckup but it's not her fault
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Mar 25, 2017 15:44
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I'd be surprised if trying to copy the Japanese pronunciation 1:1 was a choice on the actress's part Unless you mean like, in general for the voice director then yeah E: Endorph 
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Mar 25, 2017 15:44
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Endorph posted:apparently the voice director told her to do it that way, and following the voice director's instructions is the va's job yeh like, i'm sure the voice director is getting fired if he tells the atlus jp person who almost certainly doesn't speak English that saying it that way is the worst thing of all time, and I'm not touching the Eng audio at all, but I wish they had the power to say that so people who do want it can have a better overall dub
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Mar 25, 2017 15:46
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Ineffiable posted:Twilight Princess and skyward sword do have tutorials that are way more interactive than your persona 'tutorial' With Persona idk i'll just sorta fall asleep Like I know Persona 5 (first 20 minutes spoilers) starts in media res and that's a fun change but also im ready to spend like three weeks ingame getting introduced to shop owners and social link people cause dems the brakes
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Mar 25, 2017 15:49
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Persona 5's tutorial is not Persona 4's, tutorial, you get to do stuff. The problem with P5's tutorial is you can't skip it and it's incredibly handholdy, outright withholding mechanics from you until the game feels you're ready to use them. Hell, you don't even get stealth for like four hours in, it's pretty dumb. You also can't skip them on multiple playthroughs regardless of difficulty which is annoying as poo poo. Like you are gonna spend a lot of time looking at dialogue and characters, but you are gonna get to break it up at least.
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Mar 25, 2017 17:31
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Captain Baal posted:Persona 5's tutorial is not Persona 4's, tutorial, you get to do stuff. The problem with P5's tutorial is you can't skip it and it's incredibly handholdy, outright withholding mechanics from you until the game feels you're ready to use them. Hell, you don't even get stealth for like four hours in, it's pretty dumb. You also can't skip them on multiple playthroughs regardless of difficulty which is annoying as poo poo. See this sounds exactly like the Twilight Princess and skyward sword problem. So it's completely fine to at least consider it a slight against the game. Persona 5 isn't going to be a perfect game for everyone but it's gonna be really enjoyable. It just sounds like you're better off if you realize the intro is going to be slow and you need to power through the first five hours. I probably won't even play persona 5 until I get a free weekend to just power through the intro stuff.
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Mar 25, 2017 17:42
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Captain Baal posted:Hell, you don't even get stealth for like four hours in, it's pretty dumb.
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Mar 25, 2017 17:52
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I like to think that I will be so excited at finally getting to play 5 that an overly long introduction won't bother me The real problem with that stuff to me is replay value; I didn't replay 4 very much because when I thought about replaying it I remembered the really long intro and all the really long blocks of cutscenes about drag queen contests and stuff.
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Mar 25, 2017 23:46
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Moltrey posted:laughing a bit that it takes a bit for a group called The Phantom Thieves to think of using stealth Maybe they don't have their name yet by that point.
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Mar 25, 2017 23:49
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Sooo.. Make a separate loving save after the looooooong boring intros for when you replay?
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Ineffiable posted:Persona 5 isn't going to be a perfect game for everyone I do agree with the gist of your post and don't think you disagree with this, but it's important to point out that this is literally an impossible bar for a game to meet, because different people have different expectations. Persona 5 is primed to be a gateway into the SMT series for thousands/millions of players, as previous Persona games have been but on an even larger scale, and I appreciate it taking the time to ease them in and understanding that not every game is supposed to be structured like Dark Souls.
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