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I thought it was weird that all his living relatives were dead and that he could not just go " Oh yeah, I have a cousin".Like it's incredibly rare for someone to not have any living relatives what so ever especially at Danny's age. Just like statistically. If Danny were like in his 80s maybe he would have no living relatives , but this means that his father and mother were both either single children or their brothers and sisters had no children whatsoever. It's just bizarre. Hollismason fucked around with this message at 22:30 on Mar 25, 2017 |
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Hollismason posted:I thought it was weird that all his living relatives were dead and that he could not just go " Oh yeah, I have a cousin". They were billionaires. Maybe they went all European Aristocracy and he's inbred to poo poo
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Mar 25, 2017 22:28
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It is just statistically improbable and was kind of dumb. Like to be his age and to have ZERO living relatives. Also, the guy went to school. Like he had people other than only his parents and the Meachums that knew him. I dunno just kind of loving dumb. Like sure if he was adopted or something then yeah but he wasn't. https://newoldage.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/09/23/when-theres-no-family Hollismason fucked around with this message at 22:34 on Mar 25, 2017 |
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Mar 25, 2017 22:30
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Lycus posted:I don't know poo poo about business law, but as a layman, I'd be fine with "We filed an injunction against you firing the board due to your well-established mental incompetence."
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Actually Danny would have just opened himself up to massive lawsuits by shareholders. The thing to remember is that owners and CEOs of companies have a duty to the company itself in a legal sense and doing something like that would get them sued if it's a publicly traded company. This is like if Tim Cook suddenly said that tomorrow Apple was going to release the IPAD at a 600 dollar cost and then publicly give away it's patents. He would be sued and probably removed.
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Mar 25, 2017 23:24
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Everyone knows the dude was in a mental hospital, and made some erratic company decisions afterward. Seems like an open and shut case.
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Here is a good explanation of what would have happened: http://www.legalmatch.com/law-library/article/suing-a-corporation-as-a-corporate-shareholder.html quote:Derivative Lawsuit: Suing Directors and Officers on Behalf of the Corporation Also, owning 51% of a stock does not mean that you "own" the company. There are different types of stock. Also, if Danny was declared dead those stocks would have been sold. Basically it's dumb and stupid. Why does Danny still have 51% stock? Why would the company just set aside billions of dollars for someone presumed dead in a plane crash in the mountains for 15 years.Its so loving dumb. http://www.companylawclub.co.uk/what-happens-if-a-shareholder-dies What would have actually happened would be Danny would have been declared dead , then the State of New York would since he has no living relatives I believe the State of New York would have received the shares. You can bet your rear end they'd move as fast as possible to get those shares. Hollismason fucked around with this message at 23:37 on Mar 25, 2017 |
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Xealot posted:"A child billionaire from New York winds up in a magic City of Heaven whose opposition to evil extends only to their own borders. He returns to New York to reclaim his company title and finds that the company likewise cares only about its own profits. Neither facet informs his motivations in any clearly articulated way." Kabuki Shipoopi posted:This is exactly what I wanted. A man trained in the ways of kung fu, naive to the ways and pop culture of the modern world. I wanted him to listen to early 2000's hip hop while training, constantly making dumb/funny references to things long since unpopular for a bit of comedy, bringing the Zen and peace to his new corporation, all the while trying to hunt the hand, and come to terms with his brash and irresponsible mistakes. There was just so much potential in those scenarios that was missed - a student of Eastern philosophy suddenly in charge of a billion dollar business empire, a kid who has missed 15 years of societal/cultural development suddenly thrust back into the world, a zen master stepping into post-Avengers New York. Such a waste. 
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What's with these shows being so reluctant to name-drop Avengers? The average person in the MCU wouldn't know Hulk or Thor by name, but Iron Man and Captain America are public figures. Is there a licensing issue or something that leaves us with the Defenders talking about "iron suits" and "flag-wavers"? Are they worried people will expect cameos? Whatever it is, it's super awkward.
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IIRC whoever runs the show (Feige?) explicitly wants to keep them separate, similarly to DC/Vertigo divide before entire thing got rebooted again. Maybe the "people expect cameos and we can't pay RDJ another bunch of millions" worry is legit or it's just personal.
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Toast Museum posted:What's with these shows being so reluctant to name-drop Avengers? The average person in the MCU wouldn't know Hulk or Thor by name, but Iron Man and Captain America are public figures. Is there a licensing issue or something that leaves us with the Defenders talking about "iron suits" and "flag-wavers"? Are they worried people will expect cameos? Whatever it is, it's super awkward. Everything Marvel outside the movies is run by this rear end in a top hat  He famously wouldn't make Black Widow action figures because he didn't believe anyone buys girl toys. Despite a public campaign to get said toys. He is the worst.
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Gyges posted:Everything Marvel outside the movies is run by this rear end in a top hat Toast Museum posted:What's with these shows being so reluctant to name-drop Avengers? The average person in the MCU wouldn't know Hulk or Thor by name, but Iron Man and Captain America are public figures. Is there a licensing issue or something that leaves us with the Defenders talking about "iron suits" and "flag-wavers"? Are they worried people will expect cameos? Whatever it is, it's super awkward.
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achillesforever6 posted:Keep in mind this was the last professional photo of him that was made in the 1980s; guy was in disguise for the screening of the first Iron Man movie. Also remember how people like Chris Evans were ready to leave once their contracts with Marvel were up, suddenly they became more receptive to doing more film roles once Ike was gone from Marvel Studios. Chirs Evans was also a lot more receptive to being Captain America forever when his directorial debut was a huge critical and financial flop
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If K'un-Lun was a magical city, pretty sure it's a bad look to have nearly all the flashback scenes (such as they were) feature Danny wearing absolutely filthy robes. He was legit less dirty as a homeless man in New York than when he lived in the closest thing to heaven that exists.
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At the end of the first episode. I'm glad Danny found a homeless man to be friends with.  e: oh no he left because danny is a jerk  So far the show is slow and I can hear them cribbing music from the Daredevil soundtrack, particularly right after Danny crashes the car. Why is Faramir arguing with his son. How is this episode not over already. The weird part is that the camera work is good and I'm enjoying that aspect. watching this isn't worth it, I'll wait for the Youtube highlight reel. Finn Jones actually isn't that bad, but he's got gently caress all to work with. Someone drag this Scott Buck guy out to the woodshed. HIJK fucked around with this message at 04:38 on Mar 26, 2017 |
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GuyUpNorth posted:IIRC whoever runs the show (Feige?) explicitly wants to keep them separate, similarly to DC/Vertigo divide before entire thing got rebooted again. Maybe the "people expect cameos and we can't pay RDJ another bunch of millions" worry is legit or it's just personal. Feige has almost no involvement in the TV side of things. The only credit he has on TV is EP on Agent Carter. It is still weird because AOS name drops Avengers and other MCU stuff all the time.
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HIJK posted:At the end of the first episode. I'm glad Danny found a homeless man to be friends with. Yeah, Danny's whole interaction with that guy really soured me to his character - which is a bad thing to do in the very first episode. Especially for a character who spends the entire rest of the season making bad decision after bad decision. Homeless guy - those people out there look down on people like us. They're fools. Danny - You're right. They are fools if they look at us and think I'm anything like you. *scoffs* Like, gently caress you Danny! And the guy still told him where to find shoes and later even bought him a free meal and Danny still blew him off again. No wonder he decided to kill himself. The "enlightened" Iron Fist's first kill.
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Toast Museum posted:What's with these shows being so reluctant to name-drop Avengers? The average person in the MCU wouldn't know Hulk or Thor by name, but Iron Man and Captain America are public figures. Is there a licensing issue or something that leaves us with the Defenders talking about "iron suits" and "flag-wavers"? Are they worried people will expect cameos? Whatever it is, it's super awkward. They name check Captain America - Foggy says "and I can say I'm Captain America, but it doesn't put wings on my head", and I think Iron Man as well. Which makes the "big green dude" in both JJ and IF even weirder to me. It's frustrating, as both JJ and LC kind of have moments where it tries to set up a contrast between them and the Avengers, and then just swerves away at the last minute. I did like Wesley in DD though "Just one man? Well, if had an iron suit or a magic hammer I might understand"
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Finally finished it. That was aggressively mediocre. I could ramble about how stupid Danny is from beginning to end but I wouldn't be saying anything new so, meh. Davos is cool and I hope he murders everyone.
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achillesforever6 posted:I'm glad in Luke Cage they at least let him get called "Harlem's Captain America" I think its just a misguided attempt to make it look like the people on the streets don't really know who the Avengers are despite this not being set in the 90s but in the era of cell phones and easy access to the internet. Are the Daily Planet and whatever JJ Jameson's news firm was called still successful newspaper businesses? Strom Cuzewon posted:Which makes the "big green dude" in both JJ and IF even weirder to me. It's frustrating, as both JJ and LC kind of have moments where it tries to set up a contrast between them and the Avengers, and then just swerves away at the last minute. Unless they were at the fight scenes where Hulk screamed his name, or someone recorded that one, I don't think anyone's getting his or Black Widow's names. Because the first one is ludicrously dangerous and the other one probably wants to be not plastered on every newspaper as a spy. Or maybe they drop that. I dunno. RareAcumen fucked around with this message at 16:05 on Mar 26, 2017 |
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This was a mediocre show from start to finish - as people said, at least that made it more consistent than some of the other shows - but for some reason I was particularly enraged by the bit where Davos is shouting at Claire, then calms himself down and apologises. And Claire goes, "How did you do that? I've seen Danny do that." CLAIRE IT IS CALLED TAKING A BREATH AND CALMING THE gently caress DOWN. What kind of people do you hang out with where stopping yourself from yelling is seen as some kind of magical monk poo poo?
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Had to wait to the drunken guy in episode 8 for an actual good fight that involved Danny. His fighting still sucked but the drunken guy was awesome. I don't suppose he'll appear more, will he?
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The Something Awful Forums > The Finer Arts > The TV IV › Netflix Marvel: "You are a terrible Iron Fist"
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"Got any bourbon?" *pulls out Johnny Walker Black*  EDIT: Are we seriously introduced another villain with four and a half episodes to go? notthegoatseguy fucked around with this message at 18:09 on Mar 26, 2017 |
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notthegoatseguy posted:"Got any bourbon?" *pulls out Johnny Walker Black* It worked so well with Luke Cage! 
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Guy Goodbody posted:presumably it was child size fingerprints. He didn't have adult hands when he was ten So it's not truly a Trump parallel.
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Wait a minute. Don't hospitals take footprints of babies when they're born? Couldn't they compare Adult Danny to Child Danny that way?
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HIJK posted:Wait a minute. Don't hospitals take footprints of babies when they're born? Couldn't they compare Adult Danny to Child Danny that way? I had been under the impression that there had been a campaign of erasure conducted, like that one dude who set fire to the hospital records where Danny had broken his leg or wahtever as a child.
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Wait a minute. Couldn't the just write a better show that doesn't depend on any of these dumb gimmicks to resolve a made-up problem? We're supposed to take seriously that they have tried to erase all evidence linking this guy to the real danny rand. Okay, that's a solid seed for a story. And then a fingerprint on a clay pot that Danny supposedly made as a child is what magically holds up in court? And we're supposed to take that seriously? Like are you kidding? In fuckin season 2, there will probably be a part where Danny watchesThe Karate Kid and he's like "Oh... I think The Thunderer was trying to teach me discipline. This whole time I thought he was just being hard on me".
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I think the fingerprint was enough to convince Joy and Ward, and then eventually Harold said "Welcome him back with open arms" and they stopped contesting it.
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Joy was visibly struggling when Jeri brought it out, and she was more or less convinced ever since M&Ms. While that conflict could have been dragged on to "company or family" dilemma, they really had to get Defenders laid out.
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But they wrote the conflict in the first place. When you write a story, you get to create both the conflict and the conflict resolution. Don't write dumb as poo poo conflict resolution.
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HIJK posted:Wait a minute. Don't hospitals take footprints of babies when they're born? Couldn't they compare Adult Danny to Child Danny that way? I was like 'can't they pull his dental records?' Though IDK if baby teeth show up different than adult teeth...
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Scott Buck clearly thought the clay pot thing was very clever.
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Lycus posted:Scott Buck clearly thought the clay pot thing was very clever. Based on the ending of Dexter, I'm sure this is true.
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It's so weird that everybody thought Danny was rude to the homeless guy. The whole thing seemed sweet to me, a moment of real human contact after a day spent with the sociopaths on the top floor.
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So this is weird but Alt Right (white supremacists) are review bombing IMBD and rating sites to falsely increase the ranking of the show among review aggregate websites. These are some of the "10 star reviews" for IMDB These are all the different reviews from IMDB quote:After watching Iron Fist, I am convinced that the only reason it received bad reviews before it EVEN PREMIERED was because of the fact that Danny Rand is a white man. There are hundred of these reviews. All men pretty much by profile pic. Here's from Rotten Tomatoes: quote:
Anyway I have no desire to go down the rabbit hole but yeah other websites have pointed this out in reviews as well.
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It would be weird if that didn't happen. While the race of Danny Rand is a totally germane topic, the way the reviews were aggregated made it appear that Danny being a white guy played a role in the review score. Add in that aggregating scores results in stupid numbers and a false sense of opinion, and it's not surprising at all that a lot of people are pissed about Iron Fist being the latest "whipping boy" of the evil sjw plot to make us all fear white washing. Even if, as I'm pretty sure is the case, no significant amount of reviews complained about white washing since Iron Fist is not an example of white washing. Of course Iron Fist has no one but themselves to blame for this. Review aggregation sites are complete dogshit for telling people that whatever is being reviewed is mediocre. All the reviews that boiled down to "meh" were of course counted as negative reviews, because the aggregation sites don't want to take the time to properly sort their collections of reviews beyond thumbs up or thumbs down. Putting out anything less than an OK or better product is going to be treated the same as putting out dreck, this is well known and the production has to know about it.
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Snak posted:But they wrote the conflict in the first place. When you write a story, you get to create both the conflict and the conflict resolution. Don't write dumb as poo poo conflict resolution. Harold was a great character, and I'm loathe to suggest that they actually should've removed a good thing from the show, but I think overall it would've been better if Harold wasn't involved. If the Hand was directly controlling Ward, and Joy suspected that something was going on but didn't have any evidence, I think that would've worked better. If there had been an existing power game going on between Ward and Joy, and then Danny showed up and both of them had to consider if he was an asset or a liability to the company as a whole and to their own plans specifically, I think that would've been a lot more interesting. And given Joy more reason to exist.
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