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Hixson posted:This is fluffy! Orks have old and cobbled together vehicles. Uh huh.
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Safety Factor posted:I still think it's hilarious that GW sent some dudes to get slaughtered in a 40k tournament. I hope it was a learning experience. If there was a way they might actually learn the rules of their own drat game, that would be the way. Maybe 8th will be made in retribution against said tourny grogs. E:+1 W on your war lord if you have a fluffy backstory for it that is at least a paragraph long. +1 to sieze rolls if your army is fully painted and made entirely out of Games Workshop parts
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Mar 27, 2017 01:36
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It's super poo poo to make a faction like Orks in a game you play against other people that is doomed to lose unless you ask to other guy to forge a narrative (and you will probably still lose because he's playing Space Wolves).
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Mar 27, 2017 02:06
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I never understood how you could "squat" the Tyranids if they themselves were the ones that squatted the Squats
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Mar 27, 2017 02:08
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JBP posted:It's super poo poo to make a faction like Orks in a game you play against other people that is doomed to lose unless you ask to other guy to forge a narrative (and you will probably still lose because he's playing Space Wolves). Hix and Pan are not being serious. They've been trolling like that for a little bit.
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Mar 27, 2017 02:09
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LingcodKilla posted:Hix and Pan are not being serious. They've been trolling like that for a little bit. Oh I thought Orks were genuinely not very good now. I haven't played them since last edition so I've got no idea and I have been misled by forums posters/wider internet.
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JBP posted:Oh I thought Orks were genuinely not very good now. I haven't played them since last edition so I've got no idea and I have been misled by forums posters/wider internet. No, orks are terrible that's not wrong.
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Mar 27, 2017 02:17
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I am going to assume they're not as good as other factions but a wily gamer might make them win, which is more or less where they were when I last encountered Orks. Why are they considered weak now? Too many points for not enough t4 bodies?
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Orks are in a bad place, but if you want to paint, model and have fun - then go for it. Just know you will be at a handicap in almost every game you play, for no reason other than you chose to play that particular race.
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Mar 27, 2017 02:20
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When was the last time the Ork codex was both good and really fluffy? I want to say 4th edition?
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Mar 27, 2017 02:24
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Long story short Orks are not competitive. Things they are good at - Melee. Things they are poo poo at - Shooting, getting into Melee.
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Mar 27, 2017 02:26
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Unless they recut the ork spru there's only one chest piece that accepts the big shoota or rocket back pack. loving dummies.
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Mar 27, 2017 02:27
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Hot Dog Day #82 posted:I've never played Warhammer 40k, but every so often I feel like it is something I really should look into. What is the most absolutely hilarious/fun to play against Ork composition out there? I want maximum Orkiness possible, with lots of dakka and tremendous opportunities for my boyz to get run over by their own trukks or explode one another due to terrible rolls! Orks are incredibly bad right now in ways that are not fun or entertaining to anyone involved. They just kinda suck and fall over without any wacky hijinks.
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Mar 27, 2017 02:32
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Hot Dog Day #82 posted:I've never played Warhammer 40k, but every so often I feel like it is something I really should look into. What is the most absolutely hilarious/fun to play against Ork composition out there? I want maximum Orkiness possible, with lots of dakka and tremendous opportunities for my boyz to get run over by their own trukks or explode one another due to terrible rolls! The people claiming Orks are OK outside of a competitive environment are...under the wrong impression. You cannot find anyone so pumped about Orks as I was, but nowadays I discourage anyone from starting them up as hard as I can so they don't suffer the same sort of letdown I did. It really sucks to pour so much painstaking care and time and money into a project you love only to see some know-nothing gently caress it right up. It's not that they aren't """OK""" in a super-casual, friendly, narrative-forged environment; it's that their rules actively detract from everything Orks are supposed to be and do. Their rules are terribly, terribly written by an awful joke of a game designer and sucked every last bit of fun out of the army for me. I enjoyed the modeling and painting, but I couldn't even enjoy that when they performed so contradictory to their established nature on the tabletop. Understand that any given Ork unit is incapable of predictably fulfilling its purpose or even the most basic function. That's how the guy who wrote their rules makes all armies he doesn't know or like: take for example the Tyranid artillery creature he wrote (whose name escapes me atm). Artillery is supposed to be long-range support, yeah? The dude made their biggest artillery unit have a range of 24". He made their basic melee units have a strong chance of hitting themselves, but you have to stop the game and roll on a random table for the pleasure of doing it. That's the guy who wrote Orks, and he brought that sense of "gently caress fun, roll to kill yourself" to their rules, which is why the army with the most unpredictable, wild technology and organization and methods of warfare have the worst, most unforgivingly rigid command structure with truly worthless "bonuses" in the game ever seen. I was actually mad enough to write a different book, available here if your group is cool with "homebrew" stuff; something that I sort of brag about is that my regular gaming group won't let anyone use the official GW codex anymore if they are playing Orks. I and everyone else have to use the Space 0din version. It's just an alternate codex that fixes a lot of the original writer's mistakes, incorrect designs, and lazy omissions. You aren't going to be using it in any official tournaments, but it kept me from just selling off my entire army (though to be fair people message me sometimes about how it's the only Ork codex in their tournament or store, so that's cool I guess).
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mango sentinel posted:Orks are incredibly bad right now in ways that are not fun or entertaining to anyone involved. They just kinda suck and fall over without any wacky hijinks. TL;DR this tbqh Eifert Posting posted:When was the last time the Ork codex was both good and really fluffy? I want to say 4th edition? Yes, kind of. Their 3rd Edition book was awesome, but they were at least playable in their 4th ed book, even after Nob Biker Musical Wounds shenanigans. Proletariat Beowulf fucked around with this message at 02:41 on Mar 27, 2017 |
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Mar 27, 2017 02:37
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Yeah Orks are in a really bad place this edition. At least Tyranid players can still use their models as counts-as 30k Mechanicum.
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Mar 27, 2017 02:50
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I love the poo poo out of all of these, and will probably pick them all up (I've wanted to be able to build an aesthetically similar refinery structure for a while now). The new Necromunda looks rad as hell.
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Mar 27, 2017 02:52
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I'm going to a Tourney in July and am taking my Steel Legion - so a couple packs of these will help me create an absurdly over the top theme board for them.
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Mar 27, 2017 03:06
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SRM posted:one dude playing the 30k friendly passed out in his own vomit and had to be stretchered out at 3pm on Friday. This dude sounds unironically cool as hell, and I want to party with him. TheChirurgeon posted:I love the poo poo out of all of these, and will probably pick them all up (I've wanted to be able to build an aesthetically similar refinery structure for a while now). The new Necromunda looks rad as hell. Agreed, Neo-munda looks fully fuckin' sick.
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Mar 27, 2017 03:12
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How would Scouts look with a GSC upgrade sprue?
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Mar 27, 2017 03:22
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Is there a link to the new Necromunda? When I google new Necromunda it comes up with nonsensical results. Ah right, it's Shadow War: Amageddon.
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Mar 27, 2017 03:25
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Technowolf posted:How would Scouts look with a GSC upgrade sprue? It could work I think, but the Scout sprues themselves are really old and lovely.
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Mar 27, 2017 03:56
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they made Orks bad on purpose, as a joke
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Mar 27, 2017 04:03
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Huh, the box comes with less scenery than they've been showing? That spider skull hanging from the platform was my favorite piece but it's part of the scenery sold separately at $75.
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Mar 27, 2017 04:23
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Macdeo Lurjtux posted:Huh, the box comes with less scenery than they've been showing? That spider skull hanging from the platform was my favorite piece but it's part of the scenery sold separately at $75. It says the box comes with all the scenery, they're just also selling it separately.
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Mar 27, 2017 04:42
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Texmo posted:It says the box comes with all the scenery, they're just also selling it separately. The box says it comes with two pieces and walkways to connect them. The second picture is a third piece that isn't included.
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Mar 27, 2017 04:59
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This reminds me of ole Meltman from Kablam 
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Phyresis posted:they made Orks bad on purpose, as a joke Oi, me danglies to yer Dukes meffod! 'Ow'd ye fancy et? 
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Macdeo Lurjtux posted:The box says it comes with two pieces and walkways to connect them. The second picture is a third piece that isn't included. The second picture is the scenery on the left in the picture of the game contents, just assembled differently. You can even see the skull 
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Hot Dog Day #82 posted:I've never played Warhammer 40k, but every so often I feel like it is something I really should look into. What is the most absolutely hilarious/fun to play against Ork composition out there? I want maximum Orkiness possible, with lots of dakka and tremendous opportunities for my boyz to get run over by their own trukks or explode one another due to terrible rolls! Come, my sweet summer child, and we will resurrect GorkaMorka.
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Mar 27, 2017 06:24
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Daaaamn I want that terrain so bad.
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The Emperor demands the defense of the potent chem-elixir produced within the sacred workings of the atomantic arco-stills of Appalachion Primus.
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quote:Rumormeister extraordinaire chimed in with this in the wake of news of the final resin model sold: http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2017/03/40k-goodbye-resin-thunderhawk-hello.html
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Liquid Communism posted:Come, my sweet summer child, and we will resurrect GorkaMorka. I was gonna say - if you want your games to be full of wacky hijinks and Ork brutality in equal measure: play GorkaMorka. It's the game where the Ork fluff and aesthetic began to develop into what it is today (and that's the only aspect of the Orks that is totally rad.) GorkaMorka is a load of chilled and crazy fun.
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ineptmule posted:I was gonna say - if you want your games to be full of wacky hijinks and Ork brutality in equal measure: play GorkaMorka. It's the game where the Ork fluff and aesthetic began to develop into what it is today (and that's the only aspect of the Orks that is totally rad.) GorkaMorka is a load of chilled and crazy fun. It's also the best excuse ever to make insane vehicle kitbashes.
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Orks also suffer from the highest dollar per point army in the game. To field a 2000 point army you'd either have to scratch build and kitbash like crazy or spend over 1000$. It's the cruelest thing about Orks, imo. It seems like people tend to either start as Orks (like I did) or Marines for their first army, and if you chose Orks you've usually sunk a couple hundred dollars into your army before you realize your mistake. Cost aside, it would be so so easy to fix Orks. But that will never happen, we will just continue to get formations that confer rules that Orks should have by default, and cost 1000$ in minis that you most definitely don't already have as an Ork player to run.
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Hi I'm Orks4eva but I agree with everyone, please don't play them (yet). I had the most fun modelling but gaming with them is just not. Alright peace out
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