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my kinda ape
Sep 15, 2008

Everything's gonna be A-OK
Oven Wrangler

Shooting Blanks posted:

How active is this game these days? Base game is down to $12.30 right now, considering buying it.

Edit: Followup - how much DLC is actually needed? Or is it all optional?

DLCs are two categories: cosmetics and season passes. The cosmetics are obviously totally optional. There's a pack to unlock all of last year's DLC operators (8 in total) but you can grind them out for free too. It doesn't take *that* long to unlock a DLC operator for free but it'll take quite awhile to unlock all 8. This year's season pass unlocks the two operators that were released this season and will unlock the 6 that will be released in the next 3 seasons. There's 20 operators in the base game that you'll unlock fairly quickly and everyone is pretty well balanced so you won't be at a disadvantage if you don't have the DLC operators.

Basically you don't need any DLC to play right away at all and if you decide you want more variety without grinding you can just buy the DLC operator pack/season pass at any time.

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CJ
Jul 3, 2007

Asbungold

Shooting Blanks posted:

How active is this game these days? Base game is down to $12.30 right now, considering buying it.

Edit: Followup - how much DLC is actually needed? Or is it all optional?

By base game make sure it isn't the starter version that raises the price of everything uses in game currency.

The season pass DLC unlocks the DLC operators. You can unlock them using in game currency though. I've unlocked pretty much all the base game operators and 2 DLC operators after a month and a half of playing.

it's a similar system to LoL where you can do fine without unlocking all the operators, but if you have them it can give you a situational advantage.

slap me and kiss me
Apr 1, 2008

You best protect ya neck
You actually only ever need Twitch and Doc, so buy whatever makes you happy.

Basticle
Sep 12, 2011


So uh I just had an accidental TK in ranked and as I had accidentally killed the hostage earlier in the match it kicked me and banned me from ranked for 15 minutes. Ok whatever, fine. After 15 minutes i rejoin my dudes (they were still in the same match), i rejoined and it instantly kicked me and said I was banned from all multiplayer for 30 minutes for team killing. HARD!

Nickname Pending
Jan 2, 2008

I learned how to play beer pong from the Prince of Uganda at a university party.

Shooting Blanks posted:

How active is this game these days? Base game is down to $12.30 right now, considering buying it.

Edit: Followup - how much DLC is actually needed? Or is it all optional?

Minus when server issues pop up, I generally don't wait much longer than a minute to get into a match. Sometimes. But there are plenty of players.

And on the operators, unlock the originals first. Minus Tachanka and IQ; they can easily be passed on. For the Year 1's, Hibana and Frost are good first picks. Capitao and Echo definitely seem the weakest links. Shelling out the $5 for one of the good ones might not be a bad idea, as grinding for just one can be about 80 matches assuming you average 300 renown and no boosters active. More if you play ranked.

Nickname Pending fucked around with this message at 03:34 on Mar 28, 2017

Nickname Pending
Jan 2, 2008

I learned how to play beer pong from the Prince of Uganda at a university party.

Basticle posted:

So uh I just had an accidental TK in ranked and as I had accidentally killed the hostage earlier in the match it kicked me and banned me from ranked for 15 minutes. Ok whatever, fine. After 15 minutes i rejoin my dudes (they were still in the same match), i rejoined and it instantly kicked me and said I was banned from all multiplayer for 30 minutes for team killing. HARD!

Haven't had that exact problem, but I do wish the game was better about detecting motive behind TK's. I have been banned for completely accidental kills, whether my fault or someone walking into my path, but others who intentionally kill me at the start aren't kicked instantly. Yes, they should *hopefully* be kicked by the second kill if they do, but I think it should be instant.

Vatek
Nov 4, 2009

QUACKING PERMABANNED! READ HERE

~SMcD

Basticle posted:

So uh I just had an accidental TK in ranked and as I had accidentally killed the hostage earlier in the match it kicked me and banned me from ranked for 15 minutes. Ok whatever, fine. After 15 minutes i rejoin my dudes (they were still in the same match), i rejoined and it instantly kicked me and said I was banned from all multiplayer for 30 minutes for team killing. HARD!

:airquote:Accidental.:airquote:

Flipswitch
Mar 30, 2010


Nickname Pending posted:

What operators do you goons main the most?

I typically use Thermite/Hibana/Sledge/Thatcher for attack depending on squad needs.

And Mute/Frost/Pulse on defense.

And am I the only one who can't aim for poo poo with the pistol? That's why I never can use Blitz or Montagne.

I main Twitch and Thatcher for attackers, need to play ,ore to pick another but I like being a supportive type role while I was learning the maps, I wasn't sure who else to learn. Buck is cool but I don't think I'm aggressive enough.

For defenders it was Doc, Smoke and Kapkan because they're awesome. Though i wanted to practice roaming with Kapkan but he's a little slow and Frost is always taken. Might have to try with Smoke when I'm back to the UK.

Wooper
Oct 16, 2006

Champion draGoon horse slayer. Making Lancers weep for their horsies since 2011. Viva Dickbutt.
I main Blitz, Blackbeard, Castle and Echo.

Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.
Thermite, Buck, and Glaz on offense; Rook, Mute, Pulse on defense. Trying to get better with Fuze.

CJ posted:

The worst bug in this game is the exterior drone hole in the kitchen on Coastline. If you try to turn the drone before getting to the right angle turn it will rubberband the drone back outside and it pisses me off.

This has been driving me loving BONKERS lately

SHY NUDIST GRRL
Feb 15, 2011

Communism will help more white people than anyone else. Any equal measures unfairly provide less to minority populations just because there's less of them. Democracy is truly the tyranny of the mob.

Wooper posted:

I main Blitz, Blackbeard, Castle and Echo.

Woop you shouldn't put how to thoroughly troll you in writing

Basticle
Sep 12, 2011


I don't know how cheating in this game works but this doesn't seem on the up and up to me



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxSQvfdB_84

Basticle
Sep 12, 2011


WelpEcho
Sep 12, 2006

Basticle posted:

I don't know how cheating in this game works but this doesn't seem on the up and up to me


No cheating there, just two bads, one luck (srry m8)

slap me and kiss me
Apr 1, 2008

You best protect ya neck

Basticle posted:

I don't know how cheating in this game works but this doesn't seem on the up and up to me



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxSQvfdB_84

Watch that again at 0.25x speed and you'll see that only two bullets landed on Hibana - and even then only on her arm.

Basticle
Sep 12, 2011


Oh, I know I missed, thats not what I'm talking about.

Carecat
Apr 27, 2004

Buglord
Would be nice if you got replay controls on the kill cam and more info. I usually run shadowplay just so I can watch the "wtf" ones. Shame I didn't get the nitro cell that hit the front of my extended Montange shield then teleported directly behind me.

WelpEcho
Sep 12, 2006
No amount of hacks will make hipfire accurate

1500
Nov 3, 2015

Give me all your crackers

Basticle posted:

Oh, I know I missed, thats not what I'm talking about.

Well then what are you talking about. You missed shooting her and on the melee, while her hip fire started at shooting you in the head.

Vatek
Nov 4, 2009

QUACKING PERMABANNED! READ HERE

~SMcD
Yeah Bas, what are you talking about?

SHY NUDIST GRRL
Feb 15, 2011

Communism will help more white people than anyone else. Any equal measures unfairly provide less to minority populations just because there's less of them. Democracy is truly the tyranny of the mob.

The weird movements of the Hibana. She whipped around and headshot with the first bullet after whatever the hell the rest of that was

Hard
Jul 31, 2005
Kid Napalm


:allears:

Lex Neville
Apr 15, 2009
That hibana was just terrible and terribly lucky (though, as said, she shouldve never have been allowed to ever get lucky)

WelpEcho
Sep 12, 2006

Goon version is two devils and one of them is Woop threatening to shoot you or lambaste you in a passive aggressive tone and unidentifiable accent.

Great Beer
Jul 5, 2004

Nickname Pending posted:

Haven't had that exact problem, but I do wish the game was better about detecting motive behind TK's. I have been banned for completely accidental kills, whether my fault or someone walking into my path, but others who intentionally kill me at the start aren't kicked instantly. Yes, they should *hopefully* be kicked by the second kill if they do, but I think it should be instant.

A simple Forgive Teamkill? prompt is all we really need. If they're forgiven, nothing happens except the points lost. If they aren't, the existing tk punishment applies.

After that, apply tk penalties to parties so a four man can't skirt the edge of the penalty system

Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.

Basticle posted:

I don't know how cheating in this game works but this doesn't seem on the up and up to me



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxSQvfdB_84

Where's the cheating? I just see two people who are bad at the game. :v:

Try burst fire bro.

This game is going for tactical realism (rainbow six) so one single bullet to the head kills you. No part of that is cheating. That's the game.


YES

Zaphod42 fucked around with this message at 21:48 on Mar 28, 2017

Carecat
Apr 27, 2004

Buglord
Looks like a few hundred MS desync between where you see her aiming and where she is aiming.

The Duggler
Feb 20, 2011

I do not hear you, I do not see you, I will not let you get into the Duggler's head with your bring-downs.

Looks like a scrub getting mad

Fresh Shesh Besh
May 15, 2013

Basticle posted:

I don't know how cheating in this game works but this doesn't seem on the up and up to me



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxSQvfdB_84

She got really, really lucky with her hipfire spread. That's all.

Admiral Joeslop
Jul 8, 2010




How about a real cheater?

https://streamable.com/m3fkw

Wooper
Oct 16, 2006

Champion draGoon horse slayer. Making Lancers weep for their horsies since 2011. Viva Dickbutt.
dang he quickscoped that afk dude

def hax imo

Admiral Joeslop
Jul 8, 2010




Wooper posted:

dang he quickscoped that afk dude

def hax imo

He also did that to someone else, through a wall.

EDIT: Yeah lemme just go through space and time to get video from someone else's perspective while I'm still alive.

Admiral Joeslop fucked around with this message at 23:16 on Mar 28, 2017

Wooper
Oct 16, 2006

Champion draGoon horse slayer. Making Lancers weep for their horsies since 2011. Viva Dickbutt.
maybe you should put the hacking bit in the gif

The Duggler
Feb 20, 2011

I do not hear you, I do not see you, I will not let you get into the Duggler's head with your bring-downs.


Satire right?

Party Plane Jones
Jul 1, 2007

by Reene
Fun Shoe
Dang, you guys don't know what actual hacking looks like:
https://streamable.com/ov95
https://streamable.com/y6anf

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsdcRWnVz2o

Party Plane Jones fucked around with this message at 00:10 on Mar 29, 2017

Paradigmata
Dec 23, 2015

Dissolved

Party Plane Jones posted:

Dang, you guys don't know what actual hacking looks like:
https://streamable.com/ov95
https://streamable.com/y6anf

I don't see hacking in those two.

The first video shows someone with map knowledge making a kill hole, the second video shows someone as Cav that I assumed just interrogated someone and knew about that person's location, additional he shot first at Cav before Cav shot back, and it's obvious that they knew his location because frost was shooting at him from small tower.

NOT GUILTY

The Duggler
Feb 20, 2011

I do not hear you, I do not see you, I will not let you get into the Duggler's head with your bring-downs.

Now this is a hacker :getin:

https://streamable.com/zx1n


or this https://streamable.com/qm1h

Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.


:thejoke: ??

Wooper
Oct 16, 2006

Champion draGoon horse slayer. Making Lancers weep for their horsies since 2011. Viva Dickbutt.
Confirmed hacker

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqHvOyV00sU

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slap me and kiss me
Apr 1, 2008

You best protect ya neck
Amateurs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1bVtKT_sfM&t=194s

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