Intoluene posted:I liked it more when I thought they were gay for each other. Then I learned the truth in my second time around. I guess 6O is enough gay robot for one Bunker Just because one turned out to be a monster doesn't mean they're not gay. Also Jackass, if I'm reading things correctly.
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Intoluene posted:I liked it more when I thought they were gay for each other. Then I learned the truth in my second time around. I guess 6O is enough gay robot for one Bunker The way I see it, it was... both? Easily a thing Yoko would do.
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Nuebot posted:Just because one turned out to be a monster doesn't mean they're not gay. Also Jackass, if I'm reading things correctly. There's no specific intent of any kind tied to Commander White and Jackass' relationship, but that being said, I think what Yoko Taro was going for is that homosexuality is just a regular thing and not noteworthy to YoRHa bots so there's no real significance in 6O being gay. She just is. He was on record from NieR days saying that was his intent with Emil too.
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Mar 28, 2017 10:23
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Mindblast posted:The way I see it, it was... both? Easily a thing Yoko would do. I suppose violence and love are linked according to Jackass and, you know what, I'm okay leaving that thought right there. Also, weren't Commander White and Anemone an item? Not surprising considering 6O and the Commander seem to have gotten intimate. Edit: Oh wait, it was Jackass that had a thing with the Commander.
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Mar 28, 2017 10:24
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Funky See Funky Do posted:I've heard good things about this but so I've watched the first hour or so of the game. How representative is that of the overall game? I keep waiting to see what everyone is gushing over but so far all I see is anime junk. Mass Effect Andromeda is the game for you friend.
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Mar 28, 2017 10:26
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I mean, sexuality barely makes any sense in terms of androids anyway. I'm not sure they even really have gender? Or sex? Which makes them totally free, in a way that humans aren't.
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Mar 28, 2017 10:26
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Snak posted:I mean, sexuality barely makes any sense in terms of androids anyway. I'm not sure they even really have gender? Or sex? Which makes them totally free, in a way that humans aren't. Love itself seems kind of pointless without reproduction as an eventual result but then, why not? I guess sex is still a thing if romance is?
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Mar 28, 2017 10:31
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Snak posted:I mean, sexuality barely makes any sense in terms of androids anyway. I'm not sure they even really have gender? Or sex? Which makes them totally free, in a way that humans aren't. Assuming they have no sexual organs, they wouldn't have a sex but their gender would be whatever they identify themselves as. No reason why a B unit android couldn't identify as male despite being in a body that replicates the human female sex. Intoluene posted:Love itself seems kind of pointless without reproduction 100% not the case. Love is a really weird and hosed up thing with loads of different forms that generally defies description and is its own reward, reproduction is merely a thing that happens more often between people who romantically love each other and that's about as far as that link goes. Josuke Higashikata fucked around with this message at 10:38 on Mar 28, 2017 |
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Mar 28, 2017 10:35
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Or even that there wouldn't be any problems moving personalities between bodies. That, unlike humans, an androids gender could be entirely their choice. Or rather, androids are not gendered at all, and simply have either masculine or feminine bodies because they are created in the image of humans.
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Snak posted:I mean, sexuality barely makes any sense in terms of androids anyway. I'm not sure they even really have gender? Or sex? Which makes them totally free, in a way that humans aren't. They have blood, drugs, booze, (some of them) eat for fun and there's a part where I think Pascal? tells 9S to avert his eyes while they work on a female android. There's probably some open question about the difference between yorha vs. "regular" androids, but it certainly seems like they can do stuff for fun in general.
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Mar 28, 2017 10:39
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Snak posted:Or even that there wouldn't be any problems moving personalities between bodies. That, unlike humans, an androids gender could be entirely their choice. Or rather, androids are not gendered at all, and simply have either masculine or feminine bodies because they are created in the image of humans. I'd say it's the latter. Rose in the stage play has implanted male human's memories but nobody even calls attention to that because presumably gender just isn't something that's important to androids.
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Ursine Catastrophe posted:They have blood, drugs, booze, (some of them) eat for fun and there's a part where I think Pascal? tells 9S to avert his eyes while they work on a female android. There's probably some open question about the difference between yorha vs. "regular" androids, but it certainly seems like they can do stuff for fun in general. The real point here is that machines & androids echo humans, which also means their behaviours and societies. If you're asking "what's the point in an android doing x/y/z thing that a human does", the take away is "well, why do we do these things in real life because they're largely pointless" and if your answer is "well, I do drugs, drink and gently caress things because it feels good" then the answer for an android, who purposely copies humanity, is that they do it because "it feels good". It would be way, way, way easier for an android to get a body where its self identified gender matches its sex, but it's not like this is impossible for a human either. Outside of life and death being cheaper to an android, there's really not a lot of difference when it comes to being human for 2B and pals and us in real life.
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Mar 28, 2017 10:46
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2B should of tried to find some fortune cookies for 6O She'd probably super be into those things.
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Ursine Catastrophe posted:They have blood, drugs, booze, (some of them) eat for fun and there's a part where I think Pascal? tells 9S to avert his eyes while they work on a female android. There's probably some open question about the difference between yorha vs. "regular" androids, but it certainly seems like they can do stuff for fun in general. When I said they don't have sex, I meant the biological distinction. They clearly have sexual relationships and sex parts.
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Mar 28, 2017 10:57
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Josuke Higashikata posted:100% not the case. I suppose I meant more in the sense of "Why would they be intended to feel love at all" but then, they're intended to be complete AI versions of humans so having love wouldn't be too far a stretch.
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Intoluene posted:I suppose I meant more in the sense of "Why would they be intended to feel love at all" but then, they're intended to be complete AI versions of humans so having love wouldn't be too far a stretch. Ann Leckie's Ancillary Justice has a good section on why you'd want an AI to feel love. The short version is that this is probably how the android's core goal of protectiveness towards humanity is accomplished. Leckie argues that it would be rational to choose Love to implement this, because other concepts of simple loyalty or obedience can fail if the target changes over time. What if humanity evolves over thousands of years? So to work in the timespan Nier operates in, only Love provides the sort of flexibility that makes it work.
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Nuebot posted:She laughs as the creepy music starts to play and tells you that 11B used to be an abusive rear end in a top hat because she wasn't a combat model, and now that she knows 11B is dead, she doesn't have to be afraid anymore and thinks it's hilarious that 11B went out running away like a coward. The number of sidequests that take a nosedive into creepytown at the very end seems to be way higher than Nier but it hasn't lost its edge yet. they had it comin they had it comin they had it comin they had it comin they had it comin they had it comin they had it comin they had it comin they had it comin they had it comin they had it comin they had it comin they had it comin they had it comin they had it comin they had it comin they had it comin they had it comin they had it comin they had it comin they had it comin they had it comin they had it comin they had it comin they had it comin they had it comin they had it comin they had it comin they had it comin they had it comin they had it comin
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The OST is on Amazon.com for $39 with an April 7th release. Anyone know if this 3 CD set includes the Hacking Tracks?
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Mar 28, 2017 13:48
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Also I'm deep into Route B and still keeping the difficulty on Normal because 9S' gameplay suuuuucks and I want it over with as quickly as possible
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Mar 28, 2017 13:54
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Snak posted:I don't know why you would have any interest in this game at all if you have an aversion to anime. RanKizama posted:The OST is on Amazon.com for $39 with an April 7th release. Anyone know if this 3 CD set includes the Hacking Tracks? Oxxidation posted:Also I'm deep into Route B and still keeping the difficulty on Normal because 9S' gameplay suuuuucks and I want it over with as quickly as possible Monomythian posted:Mass Effect Andromeda is the game for you friend. RoadCrewWorker fucked around with this message at 14:09 on Mar 28, 2017 |
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Mar 28, 2017 14:04
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Oxxidation posted:Also I'm deep into Route B and still keeping the difficulty on Normal because 9S' gameplay suuuuucks and I want it over with as quickly as possible I was constantly switching between hard and normal during the main game depending on if I just wanted to get through the story segments.
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RanKizama posted:The OST is on Amazon.com for $39 with an April 7th release. Anyone know if this 3 CD set includes the Hacking Tracks? The hacking tracks are a first press bonus in Japan, so probably gently caress no.
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Jack-Off Lantern posted:The hacking tracks are a first press bonus in Japan, so probably gently caress no. Squeenix's EU store specifically said they were included when I ordered the soundtrack from there.
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Mar 28, 2017 14:25
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Jack-Off Lantern posted:The hacking tracks are a first press bonus in Japan, so probably gently caress no.  EDIT: You can get it here if you wanna make sure you get everything. >> BUY IT HERE <<
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Mar 28, 2017 14:40
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Instant Grat posted:Squeenix's EU store specifically said they were included when I ordered the soundtrack from there. You are right, it's also a first press bonus there, tho. I'd wish I could buy the OST Digital.
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RanKizama posted:Gotcha. CDJapan still has it available with the bonus Hacking CD so I got it there. $49 shipped via EMS with a 3-6 day delivery. Thanks. This is way cheaper than shipping to Europe from Squeenix's European store, what the hell Thanks for the heads up
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The Squeenix Shop is really bad. I live in Germany, they ship from the UK and want 15 Euro shipping for the tiniest items
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I hope there will be a digital release at some point. I've got nothing against cd's but I'm sorta fully used to the digital era we're in.
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Mindblast posted:I hope there will be a digital release at some point. I've got nothing against cd's but I'm sorta fully used to the digital era we're in. Same, I bought all the Nier 1 OSTs, and ripping them and uploading them to the cloud is kinda unfortunate. The FFXV OST was on Google music almost instantly.
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CDJapan were nice enough to give me some loyalty points that just straight up took 300 yen off my order. They seem like swell guys.
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Instant Grat posted:CDJapan were nice enough to give me some loyalty points that just straight up took 300 yen off my order. They seem like swell guys. I ordered a lot from them back in the day, including a 200 Dollar Ar Tonelico OST, and never had any issues. They also give you points for your birthday and all that.
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Intoluene posted:I suppose violence and love are linked according to Jackass and, you know what, I'm okay leaving that thought right there. Well that makes sense for combat units, but what about operators? Do operators feel a jolt of pleasure whenever they see other YoRHa units effectively coordinating their efforts? They seem really intent on forming relationships, and that one operator was really fixated on the idea of families. Seems like the operators are wired to fall in love with the units that keep getting sent out to die on Earth. Then, whenever they try to form relationships with each other on the Bunker, some safeguard kicks in and prevents that from happening.
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Jack-Off Lantern posted:I ordered a lot from them back in the day, including a 200 Dollar Ar Tonelico OST, and never had any issues. They also give you points for your birthday and all that. Was this the Ar tonelico box with a poo poo load of disks?
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Yes, exactly that one.
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Well, also, the Yorha units are special, no? In that they are basically Machines, so plausibly they inherit the Machines' need to connect with each other, and to imitate humanity.
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Jack-Off Lantern posted:Yes, exactly that one. Fuuuck, I'm jealous.
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Fangz posted:Well, also, the Yorha units are special, no? In that they are basically Machines, so plausibly they inherit the Machines' need to connect with each other, and to imitate humanity.
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My favorite boss scene was (route c) auguste, as it's the only one that effectively communicates 9S' frustration with the machines - a somewhat cute machine relationship repeated endlessly until it turns into idiocy with no meaning Also one of the more fun (but easy) boss fights because you dont have to fight the camera as much
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Josuke Higashikata posted:Fuuuck, I'm jealous. I checked, it was 170 bucks total with shipping. By the way, Squeenix EU wants 22 Euro shipping for the Nier Automata OST  I'm pretty sure they ship from the UK,so gently caress them. That's 22 Euro for a 24, 99 Item
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I really hope there's a digital version eventually like the first game's soundtracks. Even though I'd hate having to use something like iTunes for it
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