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its funny that for all the bitching about the coyotes that goes on here and on other forums, the diamondbacks managed to bring in 14k in a 50k stadium last year and supposedly we're on their side for a new ballpark https://twitter.com/jasonmredman/status/750508584996179970
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hifi posted:its funny that for all the bitching about the coyotes that goes on here and on other forums, the diamondbacks managed to bring in 14k in a 50k stadium last year and supposedly we're on their side for a new ballpark I get your point but to be a little fair that was a 4th of july weekend game against the equally junk Padres. I cannot imagine the desire to go to that game was very high.
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I would think that holiday weekends for baseball are great days to go.
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Aurora posted:I would think that holiday weekends for baseball are great days to go. It was 2 last place teams and I think most of Phoenix's retired locals get out of town when the temperatures can start hitting 120+
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Speak for yourself, I'm on the side of nuking Arizona from orbit.
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DJExile posted:It was 2 last place teams and I think most of Phoenix's retired locals get out of town when the temperatures can start hitting 120+ Going to baseball games is more about just having fun and not so much who's playing or how good the game is (imo, but that certainly can make it better) but the last part is a fair point 
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Mar 20, 2017 19:54
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Plus holiday weekend games like that are always a toss-up. Baseball games seem either completely packed for them or almost totally empty, depending on the area.
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Mar 20, 2017 19:57
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I'm not going to look it up but it's probably the afternoon game after the big fireworks show so sure, attendance is going to be down, but the coyotes arena was more full going to see florida on a monday night than that game was
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Well yeah but Gila River Arena only seats like 18,500. Chase Field's just under 50k if memory serves. 14,000 asses in seats in the first is going to look a lot better than 14,000 asses in the latter. E: mods namechange me to 14,000 Asses pls
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hifi posted:its funny that for all the bitching about the coyotes that goes on here and on other forums, the diamondbacks managed to bring in 14k in a 50k stadium last year and supposedly we're on their side for a new ballpark Baseball teams play twice as many home games and probably make more money from their TV deals as well.
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Wait, are people actually on the side of the D-Backs demanding a new stadium? Chase Field isn't even 20 years old, what's their beef with it?
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Kevyn posted:Wait, are people actually on the side of the D-Backs demanding a new stadium? Chase Field isn't even 20 years old, what's their beef with it? It's not "new enough" See also: Redskins/Fedex field
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Fedex Field is also in a godawful location. Supposedly it takes hours on end to get in and out of there on gameday.
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Well sure but having potentially 3 professional football stadiums (Granted, RFK is a loving dump) in the DC area is dumb as hell.
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Landover is like the worst possible location for a football stadium in the DC area. They may as well have built it in West Virginia.
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shyduck posted:Fedex Field is also in a godawful location. Supposedly it takes hours on end to get in and out of there on gameday. it's barely accessible by public transportation, to point where it's not even worth it to try and ride the metro out there, which means that everyone has to drive in and it takes hours to park or leave. And to top it off the Redskins loving suck at football. I've been there for concerts before and even that is terrible despite being like 20% as many people as you'd get for a game.
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Considering D.C. United are building their own place, what are the chances they tear down RFK Stadium and build a new one on the land?
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Kevyn posted:Wait, are people actually on the side of the D-Backs demanding a new stadium? Chase Field isn't even 20 years old, what's their beef with it? Their attendance is crap so the only way to get attendance up is to build a new stadium, you see.
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checksin posted:would they make more money if they tarped the whole arena off and covered it with ads Or pull a Wile E. Coyote and make the tarp a mural of a sold out arena.
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yellowcar posted:Or pull a Wile E. Coyote and make the tarp a mural of a sold out arena. It's been done (albeit to hide a construction site for a new stand): 
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holy poo poo that's great hahahaha
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shyduck posted:[X] Field/Arena is also in a godawful location. Supposedly it takes hours on end to get in and out of there on gameday. I can't wait for these same excuses to be used when the 49ers eventually try to get out of Santa Clara cause god drat that is no where near San Francisco. (and also why Key Arena needs to loving die up here)
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FedEx was designed to be inaccessible so the team could gouge fans parking out there, but now they see that's not a great idea. Even in isolation the stadium is hot trash, too. Who is going to trek out there for eight games of that walking disaster?all-Rush mixtape posted:Considering D.C. United are building their own place, what are the chances they tear down RFK Stadium and build a new one on the land? Think that's their preferred alignment, though there are tons of politics involved in that (not the least of which is the team name). Northern Virginia is another possibility, since their fanbase is increasingly centered there. God drat it, I'm taking my wife to a concert there this year. Gonna be fuuuun.  Duke Chin posted:(and also why Key Arena needs to loving die up here)  the Key needs to be smothered with a pillow. Aren't hearings starting on that next week? Wonder if AEG will come up with anything viable. (Hint: not if people have to drive there)
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I'm not even joking as of today they (AEG & OAG) are literally touting the loving Monorail as a viable transit option which would instantly make it a double transfer for everyone getting to/from games in a place that has historically had garbage traffic and public transpo. For those that have never been to Seattle: The monorail was built for the 1962 World's Fair and only - goes - one - mile
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Well it did put Brockway, Ogdenville, and North Haverbook on the map.
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Duke Chin posted:I'm not even joking as of today they (AEG & OAG) are literally touting the loving Monorail as a viable transit option which would instantly make it a double transfer for everyone getting to/from games in a place that has historically had garbage traffic and public transpo. The fact that the city is even considering the Key shows me that none of them have ever been near Seattle Center when a Sonics game gets out. Total gridlock, and that was before Amazon moved between the Key and I-5. And to tout the goddamn monorail as a partial solution? The Alaskan Way Viaduct would be more effective and it's half demolished. It would be like San Francisco citing the cable car as a regular way to leave Giants games.
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shyduck posted:Well it did put Brockway, Ogdenville, and North Haverbook on the map. I knew this joke was coming, ya nerd.  shirts and skins posted:The fact that the city is even considering the Key shows me that none of them have ever been near Seattle Center when a Sonics game gets out. Total gridlock, and that was before Amazon moved between the Key and I-5. Pretty much everyone with half a brain knows that the Mayor Babymouth Murray is keeping this poo poo alive because his reelection campaign is about to fully light off and the useless gently caress is going to ride that populist fence as hard as possible to see which side will vote for him.
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shirts and skins posted:Think that's their preferred alignment, though there are tons of politics involved in that (not the least of which is the team name). Northern Virginia is another possibility, since their fanbase is increasingly centered there. I wonder what its like in the parallel universe where FedEx is in freaking Potomac Yard. If they build the next one over at National Harbor, I'm going to piss fire and rage. Maryland's side of the river is ugly as hell. Why does the casino need a video screen so massive I can see what's on it from my side of the river?
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Sash! posted:I wonder what its like in the parallel universe where FedEx is in freaking Potomac Yard. Hahaha that would be hilarious and very like that team. Gotta love that awkward moment when you have to explain to visiting friends that they only got a great deal on that "DC" hotel because it's in National Harbor.
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The Oakland Raiders are officially moving to Vegas in a couple of years The Golden Knights better capture the city's heart quickly
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Duke Chin posted:I'm not even joking as of today they (AEG & OAG) are literally touting the loving Monorail as a viable transit option which would instantly make it a double transfer for everyone getting to/from games in a place that has historically had garbage traffic and public transpo. poo poo, even Detroit's [useless] monorail is 3 miles (coincidentally also the length of our new [useless] streetcar).
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i am the bird posted:poo poo, even Detroit's [useless] monorail is 3 miles (coincidentally also the length of our new [useless] streetcar). Oh we've already got two of those useless, short-distance, mismatching track size (so they can never tie in together) streetcars here as well. The S.L.U.T. errr sorry S.L.U.S.C. and the brand new one on Broadway thats brakes are already falling.
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Vertical Lime posted:The Oakland Raiders are officially moving to Vegas in a couple of years They had a good 6 month run of being the only major pro team in town. Hope the Creator gets used to being a small byline in the sports section, like most other NHL teams get in multi sport cities. On a good note I was in Vegas 2 weeks ago and picked up a Golden Knights hat on the strip. The logo looks way better in person with the gold thread then it does online. Really pops and embodies the money aspect of Vegas. Also when I was getting the hat two guys walked up next to me and had this exchange. Dude 1: "Golden Knights?" Dude 2: "Oh I think it's a local sports team or something." Dude 1 sees shirt that says Vegas Hockey. Dude 1: "Hockey here? Heh" Ya, good luck with fans now that the NFL is moving in. I still think they'll do well since they have MGM backing the venue.
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team is getting reloatced before 2030 and sinbin guy is gonna cry like a little biznitch
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Teemu Pokemon posted:team is getting reloatced before 2030 and sinbin guy is gonna cry like a little biznitch I hope Hamilton gets the team if that happens, just for the drama
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The talk about streetcars was interesting. For record, here's the variant of that where I live. Trams/Streetcars are great at a similar job to busses. Larger-capacity light rail or just a standard metro rail setup is better at moving large numbers of people in a shorter time, but I am enjoying all the "gently caress IT LETS BUILD TRAMS" things that are going on right now. El Gallinero Gros posted:I hope Hamilton gets the team if that happens, just for the drama If Quebec didn't get a team because "it's a market with no discernible value to the NHL", Hamilton isn't going to get it either. Bettman is desperate for Kansas, Houston and Seattle.
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Schlesische posted:The talk about streetcars was interesting. For record, here's the variant of that where I live. I'm fine with Seattle but I wish he'd realize that teams in the southern U.S. draw poorly already. Tampa drew well this year but they couldn't get people to watch them to win the Cup without giving away a lot of tickets. The teams in the bottom 10 of attendance have 6 teams in the southern U.S., 2 Canadian teams (one of whom is playing very poorly), the Blue Jackets, and a couple teams in the NY/NJ area. I'm not saying this league needs to be EXCLUSIVELY CANADIAN or some nonsense, but maybe stop trying to appeal to areas that have a dozen sports franchises already. And in Kansas' case, they already lost a team and had the worst winning pct in modern NHL history (.241). Is anybody in KC REALLY clamoring for a KC team?
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El Gallinero Gros posted:I'm fine with Seattle but I wish he'd realize that teams in the southern U.S. draw poorly already. Tampa drew well this year but they couldn't get people to watch them to win the Cup without giving away a lot of tickets. The teams in the bottom 10 of attendance have 6 teams in the southern U.S., 2 Canadian teams (one of whom is playing very poorly), the Blue Jackets, and a couple teams in the NY/NJ area. I'm not saying this league needs to be EXCLUSIVELY CANADIAN or some nonsense, but maybe stop trying to appeal to areas that have a dozen sports franchises already. And in Kansas' case, they already lost a team and had the worst winning pct in modern NHL history (.241). Is anybody in KC REALLY clamoring for a KC team? I wish KC had the worst team of all time, but look at the 74-75 Capitals. Luckily I think the NHL has learned a little bit and won't let an expansion team ever be that bad again (8-67-5 .131 win%). Is KC even interested in having a NHL team now? I thought I read that their arena made more money on concerts than they would with a full time tenant.
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Gunjin posted:I wish KC had the worst team of all time, but look at the 74-75 Capitals. Luckily I think the NHL has learned a little bit and won't let an expansion team ever be that bad again (8-67-5 .131 win%). Is KC even interested in having a NHL team now? I thought I read that their arena made more money on concerts than they would with a full time tenant. I'd forgotten about the legendarily poo poo Caps team. Still, I feel like the best candidates for expansion are Hamilton, Seattle, Quebec City, Milwaukee (Wisconsin loving loves hockey, as much as Minnesota does I'd say), and this might seem odd, but Omaha. Population of close to 500,000, and their NCAA team is one of the best attended teams in the NCAA.
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