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It's pretty amazing that Marvel can manage to gently caress up at such a profound and offensive level like this. There is nothing ok or acceptable about the notion and even if it were in the hands of the greatest writer in the world it would still be completely hosed. In the hands of Spenser? It's going to be offensive and terrible.
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Mar 28, 2017 20:40
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Roth posted:https://www.bleedingcool.com/2017/03/26/marvelssecretempireaxisallies/ Ahahahaha oh my god. This is incredible.
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Mar 28, 2017 20:48
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It takes a bold and perceptive mind to look at the current state of the world and go "Hm, yes, maybe we should do a story about how the Nazis were right OR about how mass mind control is 100% justified."
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Mar 28, 2017 20:51
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I've stuck up for a lot of Nick Spencer's work in the past but wow this is dumb.
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Mar 28, 2017 20:53
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this is gonna be real bad isn't it
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Mar 28, 2017 21:01
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I wasn't planning to read it anyway, so whatever. Hopefully it won't matter in any Marvel books I am reading. (This is how I feel about all crossover/events I don't intend to read.)
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Mar 28, 2017 21:06
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Marvel really doesn't want to get back all the readers they've pushed away.
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Mar 28, 2017 21:08
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Marvel 2016: A thrilling tale brought to you by Lehmann and König!!!
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Mar 28, 2017 21:15
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Lmao this is hilarious. This is so bad and the only reason I read Steve Rogers is because I like HYDRA as an evil organization and I thought it was interesting. But Jesus H. Christ, doing anything other than Kobik warping Steve's background to make him HYDRA is absolutely terrible.
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Mar 28, 2017 21:18
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Does this mean that all of Marvel Comics, starting with Timely's Captain America #1, has retroactively been made one long, gigantic What If?
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Mar 28, 2017 21:18
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Eh. Give it like 3 years.
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Mar 28, 2017 21:27
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 I'm really glad Moon Knight is almost over. It's the only Marvel book I'm reading at the moment and once that's through I can just wait for them to get their act together again.
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Mar 28, 2017 21:29
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I am not even sure what that twist even adds to the story.
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Mar 28, 2017 21:40
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I've seen that kind of twist work but only in stuff that was specifically set up for it and not, you know, the Marvel universe.
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Mar 28, 2017 21:49
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This is what brings Jack Kirby back to life to enact punchy vengeance.
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Mar 28, 2017 21:52
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I'm not exactly against this in theory but the execution is not going to make this work
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Mar 28, 2017 21:55
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redbackground posted:This is what brings Jack Kirby back to life to enact punchy vengeance. Well in that case, I'm now cautiously optimistic.
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Mar 28, 2017 21:57
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CharlestheHammer posted:I am not even sure what that twist even adds to the story. In theory it adds a touch of moral ambiguity and a semi-rational justification for characters on the bad side to feel justified in their actions without being cartoonishly evil. "Oh, my choice is to have my entire identity erased or be helping Nazis win" It's just absurdly poorly timed from every perspective and there is no chance of the writers pulling it off well enough to either justify the concept or not say some absurdly lovely things.
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Mar 28, 2017 22:04
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JordanKai posted:
At least pick up Gwenpool/US Avengers/Nova to give them an idea of the direction they should be going in.
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Mar 28, 2017 22:16
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ImpAtom posted:In theory it adds a touch of moral ambiguity and a semi-rational justification for characters on the bad side to feel justified in their actions without being cartoonishly evil. "Oh, my choice is to have my entire identity erased or be helping Nazis win" But they are Hydra, the very definition of cartoonishly evil.
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Mar 28, 2017 22:27
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poo poo like that makes me miss Shooter. Say what you will, Jim Shooter would never let that be published.
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Mar 28, 2017 22:37
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Gatts posted:Eh. Give it like 3 years. Or even if this is just some cosmic cube fuckry
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Mar 28, 2017 22:45
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I don't think anyone expects this to stick forever. it's just a dumb idea
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Mar 28, 2017 22:46
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Yeah, this is about the time people should make legit angry phone calls and get sweaty Joe Q on CNN trying to defend this.
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Mar 28, 2017 22:56
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enigmahfc posted:Generations doesn't have Johnny Blaze and Danny Ketch sitting down and rapping with the current Ghost Rider? What the gently caress Marvel, I had my money ready. he got deported
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Mar 28, 2017 23:05
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Roth posted:https://www.bleedingcool.com/2017/03/26/marvelssecretempireaxisallies/ ahhahahahaha after years of people giving me poo poo about how much the Ultimate Universe sucked (hint: it didn't) turns out 616 was the garbage universe all along. #bringbackUltimatecanon
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Mar 28, 2017 23:08
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Mr President posted:ahhahahahaha Yeah but in the Ultimate universe, Colossus was gay so that would totally trigger you... 
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Mar 28, 2017 23:10
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pubic works project posted:Yeah but in the Ultimate universe, Colossus was gay so that would totally trigger you... No that was ok because it was depicted in a realistic manner and more importantly they built him from the ground up as a gay character they didn't suddenly change him after several decades establishing him as a straight.
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Mar 28, 2017 23:13
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Mr President posted:ahhahahahaha The main universe's gently caress ups do not make the Ultimate universe good.
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Mar 28, 2017 23:20
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The Ultimate Universe was pretty great but even when it was pretty bad I admired their will to completely tear something down. Europe was completely destroyed 
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Mar 28, 2017 23:26
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On the bright side the Marvel comics I read, the Star Wars ones,Thor, and The Ulimates. Shouldn't be too affected by this.
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Mar 28, 2017 23:26
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Actually when you think about it in the Marvel Universe the Nazis had all that crazy advanced comic book tech/weapons + supervillains but then again so did the Allies. I don't really know enough about Marvel's golden age era to say which side was more OP.
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Mar 28, 2017 23:42
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SilverSupernova posted:The main universe's gently caress ups do not make the Ultimate universe good. Ultimate Spider-Man alone is superior to anything from the main universe and that's not even talking about the excellent series by Mark Millar, Warren Ellis, and Jonathan Hickman. If it wasn't for Marvel giving Jeph Loeb carte blanche the Ultimate universe would be the main continuity now. It's no wonder why all the Marvel media from shows to movies are heavily influenced by the Ultimate incarnations of the characters.
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Mar 28, 2017 23:44
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They have the aesthetics of the ultimate universe and that's about it.
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Mar 28, 2017 23:46
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ImpAtom posted:In theory it adds a touch of moral ambiguity and a semi-rational justification for characters on the bad side to feel justified in their actions without being cartoonishly evil. "Oh, my choice is to have my entire identity erased or be helping Nazis win" I'm surprised because I wouldn't have thought Identity Crisis was a book Marvel wanted to emulate.
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Mar 28, 2017 23:50
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Man. I just hope that this is Spencer's big finale to Captain America stuff and come October we can get a neater run. Who the heck even thought to greenlight all that poo poo. ...how many comics will get a new #1 thanks to the inevitable conclusion to that lovely setup?
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Mar 29, 2017 01:26
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The new brand will be Marvel: Oops, All #1s!
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Mar 29, 2017 01:47
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I hate this so much
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Mar 29, 2017 01:47
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ArmyOfMidgets posted:Man. I just hope that this is Spencer's big finale to Captain America stuff and come October we can get a neater run. Who the heck even thought to greenlight all that poo poo. Along with Marvel Oops Phase I guess we're going to need a Cosmic Cube to fix all this poo poo again...right? Or can we get some other super powered man/doohicky?
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