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got any sevens posted:gently caress roiders, I'm a griffey fan.  🤔
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I don't get your point. It's a better photo but it's not like his head grew 3 sizes.
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Leperflesh posted:You'd think there'd be a major league team named the Stallions  Already taken by a failed football team (though this was more on the league than the team). Not that anyone should ever put a pro team in Birmingham...
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The CFL had the Baltimore Stallions for a couple years, after the NFL sued the poo poo out of them for trying to name themselves the Baltimore CFL Colts
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Aspirin is not a PED!
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warcrimes posted:Exactly one traditional small market team has won an MLB championship since Minnesota 25 years ago. Team success in MLB is less driven by payroll spending than any of the other major pro sports in America. bawfuls fucked around with this message at 06:19 on Mar 29, 2017 |
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Mar 29, 2017 06:15
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Why would you include St. Louis in with the small market teams?
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Darth Brooks posted:Why would you include St. Louis in with the small market teams? entire list of traditional large market baseball teams: the yankees
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It's the 20th largest metro area in the US so that's not a "big market"
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bawfuls posted:St Louis, Kansas City, Miami (spends like a small market), and Arizona have all won the World Series this century. Lmao. Yes, the sport where the richest team has won 27 championships and appeared in 40 of them is the model of parity all sports should aspire to.
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Volkerball posted:Lmao. Yes, the sport where the richest team has won 27 championships and appeared in 40 of them is the model of parity all sports should aspire to.
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Mar 29, 2017 06:42
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Baseball is bad because the latest CBA actively encourages the most interesting/possibly best player in the world not bother to try to play in MLB.
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Mar 29, 2017 06:59
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Part of that is the fact that football is much more reliant on individual performance, especially at QB. No matter how good a baseball player is, they are only one of nine players batting, or they only pitch a small fraction of a team's innings. A quarterback handles the ball on almost every offensive play, so having a great one means you win a lot.
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bawfuls posted:St Louis, Kansas City, Miami (spends like a small market), and Arizona have all won the World Series this century. St Louis is market 20 and not a traditional small market in any sense of the word when it comes to baseball. Miami and AZ basically bought championships then immediately dismantled their teams. KC is the one exception I mentioned and is almost immediately being picked apart.
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Mar 29, 2017 07:26
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Every MLB team except the Mariners and Nationals has been in the World Series since 1979. Six NFL teams have not made the Super Bowl in that time. I don't know what this proves but I went through the trouble of looking it up so now you have to hear about it.
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Mar 29, 2017 07:49
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Grittybeard posted:Baseball is bad because the latest CBA actively encourages the most interesting/possibly best player in the world not bother to try to play in MLB. I long for Otani. 
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Mar 29, 2017 08:18
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http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/19029448/oakland-alameda-coliseum-stadium-authority-want-oakland-raiders-2019 Well, if they don't want to play in UNLV's stadium, they might have to play somewhere other than Oakland in 2019.
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Mar 29, 2017 14:07
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Old aircraft carrier roving murderboat
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The Oakland/Las Vegas/Oklahoma City Raiders
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The real crime is that this happened a year too late for the stadium to be selected as host of Super Bowl LV.
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I wonder how the actual Vegas stadium will compare to the kroenkedome
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a neat cape posted:I wonder how the actual Vegas stadium will compare to the kroenkedome Vegas will be the only one with IV rooms.
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Leperflesh posted:hmm yes, the richest media markets should always have the best teams, that makes perfect sense Agreed, unironically
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Ken griffey jr was clean
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warcrimes posted:St Louis is market 20 and not a traditional small market in any sense of the word when it comes to baseball. Miami and AZ basically bought championships then immediately dismantled their teams. KC is the one exception I mentioned and is almost immediately being picked apart. The lack of a salary cap likely aided Miami and AZ in buying said championships. It allows small market teams to bide their time and go for it when all the pieces are in place, rather than having a strict ceiling and floor that force them to plod along in mediocrity forever, like roughly 80% of NBA franchises.
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I forgot what this thread was about, why don't the Raiders just play in UNLV's stadium for a year or two before their stadium is done? I know Davis said he wants everything to be perfect when they move in, but having a soft launch in a small stadium in their new city has got to be better than playing in front of small and likely hostile crowds in Oakland for three years. Especially since the team looks to be competitive in the short term future, why not use that as an opportunity to build some excitement and good will in Las Vegas?
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General Dog posted:I forgot what this thread was about, why don't the Raiders just play in UNLV's stadium for a year or two before their stadium is done? I know Davis said he wants everything to be perfect when they move in, but having a soft launch in a small stadium in their new city has got to be better than playing in front of small and likely hostile crowds in Oakland for three years. Especially since the team looks to be competitive in the short term future, why not use that as an opportunity to build some excitement and good will in Las Vegas? Sam Boyd probably isn't up to nfl regulations. Stub hub probably isn't either though, so who knows
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General Dog posted:I forgot what this thread was about, why don't the Raiders just play in UNLV's stadium for a year or two before their stadium is done? I know Davis said he wants everything to be perfect when they move in, but having a soft launch in a small stadium in their new city has got to be better than playing in front of small and likely hostile crowds in Oakland for three years. Especially since the team looks to be competitive in the short term future, why not use that as an opportunity to build some excitement and good will in Las Vegas? Sam Boyd Stadium is nowhere near the minimum NFL standards for hosting a pro game. Estimates put it at a year of work to get it ready. Also, I'm pretty sure the crowds in Oakland will remain large, there's a 20k season ticket backlog and not everyone has been overly pissed. We've been through this before.
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By "we've been through this before" are you meaning that you are ignoring all the evidence that was presented to the contrary?
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King Hong Kong posted:By "we've been through this before" are you meaning that you are ignoring all the evidence that was presented to the contrary? I think he's referring to the Raiders having lame duck seasons in Oakland before Al moving them to Los Angeles.
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Yeah, I figured if something as small as Stub Hub got the okay I'd think they could get the NFL's blessing on Sam Boyd, though I'm sure Stub Hub is nicer and newer. But if they think they'll still draw crowds in Oakland I guess it makes sense to stay.
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I've never been to StubHub but Sam Boyd is trash
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a neat cape posted:I think he's referring to the Raiders having lame duck seasons in Oakland before Al moving them to Los Angeles. That's true but that was also a very different time for the NFL. The Raiders, although they will probably be putting a high quality product on the field during the next few years, have not had the kind of draw in the East Bay that the NFL and Mark Davis wanted. There is no reason to assume that people would support the team more than they have in the past decade especially when the team is moving.
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King Hong Kong posted:That's true but that was also a very different time for the NFL. The Raiders, although they will probably be putting a high quality product on the field during the next few years, have not had the kind of draw in the East Bay that the NFL and Mark Davis wanted. There is no reason to assume that people would support the team more than they have in the past decade especially when the team is moving. Again, season ticket requests are backed up 20k. All those people plus whoever currently has tickets aren't going to disappear when the product on the field is entering a really good phase. There's a chance the Raiders make it to/win a SB before they move, people aren't going to pass that up.
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warcrimes posted:Again, season ticket requests are backed up 20k. All those people plus whoever currently has tickets aren't going to disappear when the product on the field is entering a really good phase. There's a chance the Raiders make it to/win a SB before they move, people aren't going to pass that up. Maybe they shouldn't tarp off the upper deck if they have such a backlog
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warcrimes posted:Sam Boyd Stadium is nowhere near the minimum NFL standards for hosting a pro game. Estimates put it at a year of work to get it ready. Also, I'm pretty sure the crowds in Oakland will remain large, there's a 20k season ticket backlog and not everyone has been overly pissed. We've been through this before. I want to know how this plays out. I didn't renew this year for this reason. Mark offered refunds to anyone who wanted them. Otoh, the Raiders are playing their best football in a while and I expect another playoff run.
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Citing a waitlist that came into existence within the last year prior to the approval to move is pretty speculative considering that it costs nothing to be put on the waitlist. This isn't to say people won't show up (the team is good after all) but it is foolish to take that as an assured fact.
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a neat cape posted:Nah. The Lakers fans are the one team that stays loyal in Los Angeles, especially now with Magic involved. Has that ever really been tested though?
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Nail Rat posted:Has that ever really been tested though? Lakers games continue to be sold out over the last four years while it's hard for the Clippers to sell out when they have a good team
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