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Technical Analysis
Nov 21, 2007

I got 99 problems but the British ain't one.
Man, this is great. First I go back to my bugship, now there's buffs coming to it. Oh happy day.

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Psycho Landlord
Oct 10, 2012

What are you gonna do, dance with me?

Oh poo poo the HEC qualifies for a heavy slot. Nice.

Coq au Nandos
Nov 7, 2006

I think I would say to my daughters if they were to ask me this question... A shitpost is the greatest gift that you can give someone, the ultimate gift of giving and don't give it to someone lightly, that's what I would say.

Psycho Landlord posted:

Oh poo poo the HEC qualifies for a heavy slot. Nice.

Yeah that's a nice buff for that ship. Well done Cryptic, this is a very clever way to set escorts apart.

Asimo
Sep 23, 2007


... HEC? :downs:

Also it's hilarious that only T6 ships get the slot. Get hosed apparently, Risian Corvette. :argh:

Asimo fucked around with this message at 22:09 on Mar 28, 2017

Technical Analysis
Nov 21, 2007

I got 99 problems but the British ain't one.
I'm hoping each of the T6 lockbox escorts get their own unique heavy weapon, i mean, i doubt it, but it'd be neat.

Bloodly
Nov 3, 2008

Not as strong as you'd expect.

Asimo posted:

... HEC? :downs:

Also it's hilarious that only T6 ships get the slot. Get hosed apparently, Risian Corvette. :argh:

Heavy Escort Carrier. The Akira and variants.

So the thing is effectively a Kinetic Cutting Beam for 'free'(360degree Kinetic Damage, unaffected by fire modes). Well, it's hardly something to complain about. I imagine it'll live and die on how useful Shield Penetration actually is. I mean, I imagine now that they were cutting back on other sources of ignores-shields damage so this looks better.

Escorts with 8 weapons, effectively. Huh.

There's also the thought of 'this is only the first weapon-they may/will make more'.

Bloodly fucked around with this message at 22:48 on Mar 28, 2017

Tunicate
May 15, 2012

Asimo posted:

... HEC? :downs:

Also it's hilarious that only T6 ships get the slot. Get hosed apparently, Risian Corvette. :argh:

T6 version of the corv is probably gonna be a summer event reward

hakimashou
Jul 15, 2002
Upset Trowel

Asimo posted:

... HEC? :downs:

Also it's hilarious that only T6 ships get the slot. Get hosed apparently, Risian Corvette. :argh:

summer even is just a couple months away

Asimo
Sep 23, 2007


Bloodly posted:

Heavy Escort Carrier. The Akira and variants.
Oh, dhur. After the FAW changes hit tribble I actually messed around with mine a bit. I like the kitbash I did for it and it's a nice competent ship, but it was hard messing around with a escort when battlecruisers and even sciboats are just outright better these days.

Tunicate posted:

T6 version of the corv is probably gonna be a summer event reward

hakimashou posted:

summer even is just a couple months away
Hopefully.... but this is cryptic so I am fully expecting disappointment. :saddowns:

DancingShade
Jul 26, 2007

by Fluffdaddy
So if escort heavy weapons don't interact with enhancements like fire at will or high yield but they suck up weapon power then... I would want to take a closer look at how this works before jumping to any conclusions about it being good.

Technical Analysis
Nov 21, 2007

I got 99 problems but the British ain't one.
Run EPTW, problem solved. Assuming you're having weapon power problems on an escort.

DancingShade
Jul 26, 2007

by Fluffdaddy

Technical Analysis posted:

Run EPTW, problem solved. Assuming you're having weapon power problems on an escort.

Sure but you should be running EPTW anyway unless you're in a gimmick boat. It's still -X? weapon power because of the heavy weapon slot and no cruiser weapon efficiency.
Also cruisers already get that 8th weapon slot and can put what they like in it, more or less.

If there is a zero power option like some kind of heavy torpedo launcher then I can see that being an obvious 'no downsides' choice.

Bloodly
Nov 3, 2008

Not as strong as you'd expect.
We've seen that they want power to be A Thing.(possibly 'again'.) They, I imagine, really want you to be thinking about taking those +power consoles in your Engineering slots as opposed to other things, the shield with Power Conduit Link, and so on. They want the Engineering Super Moves for space to feel like Super Moves. They are hampered by some things that have come before.

And they've changed scaling such that you want higher power in any case.

In the end, one can say they want: "I Want to gear for Power Levels' to be a thing. From there, all else follows.

Pioneer42
Jun 8, 2010
Would someone care to stack rank the current selection of zen/fleet escorts?

DancingShade
Jul 26, 2007

by Fluffdaddy

Pioneer42 posted:

Would someone care to stack rank the current selection of zen/fleet escorts?

The T6 ones are all largely interchangeable unless you're after a specific build in which case you know which one you want.

Pilot escorts are probably "best" overall though. Specifically the pilot escorts that came out when that whole skill tree launched.

MikeJF
Dec 20, 2003




DancingShade posted:

The T6 ones are all largely interchangeable unless you're after a specific build in which case you know which one you want.

Pilot escorts are probably "best" overall though. Specifically the pilot escorts that came out when that whole skill tree launched.

Aka the only pilot ships except the D4-X.

The sci pilot escort is the best of the three to get if you're only getting one. And they are definitely funner to play than regular escorts.

Lagomorphic
Apr 21, 2008

AKA: Orthonormal
Pilot escorts for actually flying, or Phantom for the trait.

Aleth
Aug 2, 2008

Pillbug

MikeJF posted:

Aka the only pilot ships except the D4-X.

The sci pilot escort is the best of the three to get if you're only getting one. And they are definitely funner to play than regular escorts.

Whilst the sci pilot is pretty sweet it can't look as cool as this:

Asimo
Sep 23, 2007


It's still a crime that the Defiant doesn't have pilot moves. :argh:

Aleph Null
Jun 10, 2008

You look very stressed
Tortured By Flan
I wish my temporal raider was that fancy. Looks like a Batman logo, though, so that's something.

Edit: you know what? I'm using a quantum mine launcher with it because using the BOff skill to dump a dozen mines in a star pattern behind my ship is just funny. Like "holy poo poo, that's a lot of mines." I also still have one of the middle versions of the Hargh'peng Torpedo Launcher on it. Not the consumable one and not the most recent one that has slightly lower stats. The middle one where you got to murder a Doomsday Machine with it in a mission but still keep it afterwards.
Also, it has a Battle Cloak. An (ostensibly) Fed ship with a Battle Cloak is nice.

Aleph Null fucked around with this message at 16:29 on Mar 29, 2017

Hail Mr. Satan!
Oct 3, 2009

by zen death robot

Asimo posted:

It's still a crime that the Defiant doesn't have pilot moves. :argh:

It's a crime all the escorts don't have pilot moves. It would have gone a long way to making them desirable again because the maneuvers just make them fun to play.

But then they wouldn't be able to sell those ugly rear end pilot escorts

(I'm fairness the KDF ones look baller and the Romneys are okay, but the Fed ones are hideous)

Rahhmi
Aug 18, 2015

GO WEEDJI!

[05/28/2016 12:40:42 AM] Pulse: don't stir up my
personal drama, please


So a new thing is coming out..


...or more accurately...

Psycho Landlord
Oct 10, 2012

What are you gonna do, dance with me?

If you want to fly an escort, fly an Akira and acknowledge the best ship in Star Trek like a proper nerd.

Hail Mr. Satan!
Oct 3, 2009

by zen death robot

Psycho Landlord posted:

If you want to fly an escort, fly an Akira and acknowledge the best ship in Star Trek like a proper nerd.

I have a D4x, so I already have the best ship in Trek

Psycho Landlord
Oct 10, 2012

What are you gonna do, dance with me?

That is just adorable

Psycho Landlord
Oct 10, 2012

What are you gonna do, dance with me?

Double Post, but holy poo poo it's happening. Cryptic has finally announced the Season of PVP

https://www.arcgames.com/en/games/star-trek-online/news/detail/10451743

Hail Mr. Satan!
Oct 3, 2009

by zen death robot
http://www.arcgames.com/en/games/star-trek-online/news/detail/10451803-first-contact-day-celebration-rewards%21

Look, another trait to go with the Malon fart build!

hakimashou
Jul 15, 2002
Upset Trowel

Psycho Landlord posted:

Double Post, but holy poo poo it's happening. Cryptic has finally announced the Season of PVP

https://www.arcgames.com/en/games/star-trek-online/news/detail/10451743

War Games: The War Games queues will put players in head-to-head competitive PvE scenarios. These new queues split ten players into two teams of five, who must race to complete objectives before the other team succeeds.

Asimo
Sep 23, 2007


frakeaing HAMSTER DANCE posted:

Look, another trait to go with the Malon fart build!
I upgraded that thing T5-U and it was the single best use of credits I've made in this game.

Coq au Nandos
Nov 7, 2006

I think I would say to my daughters if they were to ask me this question... A shitpost is the greatest gift that you can give someone, the ultimate gift of giving and don't give it to someone lightly, that's what I would say.

hakimashou posted:

War Games: The War Games queues will put players in head-to-head competitive PvE scenarios. These new queues split ten players into two teams of five, who must race to complete objectives before the other team succeeds.

STO DOTA

hakimashou
Jul 15, 2002
Upset Trowel
I am the """skill based matchmaking"""" for the """competitive queues in STO"""

Psycho Landlord
Oct 10, 2012

What are you gonna do, dance with me?

hakimashou posted:

War Games: The War Games queues will put players in head-to-head competitive PvE scenarios. These new queues split ten players into two teams of five, who must race to complete objectives before the other team succeeds.

There's no way this doesn't end with the players blowing the poo poo out of each other, intended or otherwise.

Best dust off your Gal-Xs, goons.

hakimashou
Jul 15, 2002
Upset Trowel

Psycho Landlord posted:

There's no way this doesn't end with the players blowing the poo poo out of each other, intended or otherwise.

Best dust off your Gal-Xs, goons.

Its probably going to be PvE like it says where you cant shoot other players.

Uziduke
Jul 2, 2015

A storm over Europe unleashed
Dawn of war a trail of destruction
The power of Rome won't prevail
See the Catholics shiver and shake
Watching way to much TNG this week makes me want to do Star Trek things. How bad is this game?

Hail Mr. Satan!
Oct 3, 2009

by zen death robot

Uziduke posted:

Watching way to much TNG this week makes me want to do Star Trek things. How bad is this game?

It's pretty garbo. Too bad you weren't here like 3 years ago when the Romulan poo poo launched and it peaked

Tunicate
May 15, 2012

Uziduke posted:

Watching way to much TNG this week makes me want to do Star Trek things. How bad is this game?

Its got no endgame beyond space barbie, now that queues are dead and we've driven out about 90% of the worst pubbies.

The missions are pretty fun single player stuff, tho, and the game is easy as poo poo provided you follow equipment advice from the goons who know how the game works (short version: all one damage type, and pick exclusively either beams or cannons)

Psycho Landlord
Oct 10, 2012

What are you gonna do, dance with me?

hakimashou posted:

Its probably going to be PvE like it says where you cant shoot other players.

Intended or otherwise

VVV Holy poo poo SFC's on GOG? Later nerds

Psycho Landlord fucked around with this message at 23:54 on Mar 29, 2017

Hail Mr. Satan!
Oct 3, 2009

by zen death robot
Just go buy Starfleet Command on GoG

Nita
Apr 27, 2008

frakeaing HAMSTER DANCE posted:

It's pretty garbo. Too bad you weren't here like 3 years ago when the Romulan poo poo launched and it peaked

The only fun part of the Romulan poo poo was opening the teleporter console at the embassy to keep other players from being able to use it. Cue Butts and Nbreeki being abducted by a GM/Dev and interrogated (possibly anal probed.)

Nita fucked around with this message at 02:17 on Mar 30, 2017

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Psycho Landlord
Oct 10, 2012

What are you gonna do, dance with me?

Wrong Romulan poo poo.

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