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Admiral Joeslop
Jul 8, 2010




Would an illicit that added a crew slot with restrictions be too good? Point restriction on crew, some other stuff? Probably too powerful.

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canyoneer
Sep 13, 2005


I only have canyoneyes for you

Admiral Joeslop posted:

Would an illicit that added a crew slot with restrictions be too good? Point restriction on crew, some other stuff? Probably too powerful.

If you think torp scouts and party bus are obnoxious, let's talk about torpedo party scouts.

A points restriction wouldn't help, because Scum crew slots are so valuable. You're never thinking about how much the crew you're putting on costs in points, rather the opportunity cost of putting that crew on instead of the other one.

Owlbear Camus
Jan 3, 2013

Maybe this guy that flies is just sort of passing through, you know?



DKD posted:

What could be more c-3po than shrieking that you're doomed, only to survive despite your predictions?

Yeah, if the interaction of Han Solo defying the odds as threepio calls them wasn't intended, then the designers stumbled into something clever.

ConfusedUs
Feb 24, 2004

Bees?
You want fucking bees?
Here you go!
ROLL INITIATIVE!!





3PO is my favorite card, thematically

IronSaber
Feb 24, 2009

:roboluv: oh yes oh god yes form the head FORM THE HEAD unghhhh...:fap:
Is the C-ROC out yet?

ConfusedUs
Feb 24, 2004

Bees?
You want fucking bees?
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Nope. Just previews.

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

"From each according to his ability" said Ares. It sounded like a quotation.
Buglord
If it's bad I'll call it the CROC of poo poo

ConfusedUs
Feb 24, 2004

Bees?
You want fucking bees?
Here you go!
ROLL INITIATIVE!!





There were some janky rebel lists at Naboo that got caught on the Krayts' recordings. I want to try them.

I think my favorite was the one with

Biggs w/R2-D2, Integrated
Captain Rex w/Masterpiece, Slicer Tools
Roark (the PS12 HWK pilot) w/TLT, Operations Specialist
Jess Pava w/Stressbot, Integrated

Might be an upgrade or two I'm missing. Going by memory here.

It looked like a lot of fun. Use Roark to give someone a shot at PS12--probably Rex to suppress them. If it misses, give an extra focus to Biggs. Then at your regular PS everyone else shoots.

IronSaber
Feb 24, 2009

:roboluv: oh yes oh god yes form the head FORM THE HEAD unghhhh...:fap:

ConfusedUs posted:

There were some janky rebel lists at Naboo that got caught on the Krayts' recordings. I want to try them.

I think my favorite was the one with

Biggs w/R2-D2, Integrated
Captain Rex w/Masterpiece, Slicer Tools
Roark (the PS12 HWK pilot) w/TLT, Operations Specialist
Jess Pava w/Stressbot, Integrated

Might be an upgrade or two I'm missing. Going by memory here.

It looked like a lot of fun. Use Roark to give someone a shot at PS12--probably Rex to suppress them. If it misses, give an extra focus to Biggs. Then at your regular PS everyone else shoots.

I don't think you missed an upgrade, that's all 100 points right there.

Biggs Darklighter (25)
R2-D2 (4)
Integrated Astromech (0)

Captain Rex (14)
Black Market Slicer Tools (1)
Sabine's Masterpiece (1)

Roark Garnet (19)
Twin Laser Turret (6)
Operations Specialist (3)

Jess Pava (25)
R3-A2 (2)
Integrated Astromech (0)

Total: 100

View in Yet Another Squad Builder

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

The slightest touch from a Gol-Shogeg will result in Instant Death!

Admiral Joeslop posted:

Would an illicit that added a crew slot with restrictions be too good? Point restriction on crew, some other stuff? Probably too powerful.

If it added a crew slot but the ship could not equip unique crew I think it would be fine. On all the ships that have Illicit.

IronSaber posted:

Is the C-ROC out yet?

Only went on the boat on 10 March so earliest likely release date would be 8 weeks from then so mid May. Probably June.

banned from Starbucks
Jul 18, 2004




Admiral Joeslop posted:

Would an illicit that added a crew slot with restrictions be too good? Point restriction on crew, some other stuff? Probably too powerful.

Dash with both kanan and kyle would be a trip. Or R2D2 crew plus either of those guys

ConfusedUs
Feb 24, 2004

Bees?
You want fucking bees?
Here you go!
ROLL INITIATIVE!!





IronSaber posted:

I don't think you missed an upgrade, that's all 100 points right there.

Biggs Darklighter (25)
R2-D2 (4)
Integrated Astromech (0)

Captain Rex (14)
Black Market Slicer Tools (1)
Sabine's Masterpiece (1)

Roark Garnet (19)
Twin Laser Turret (6)
Operations Specialist (3)

Jess Pava (25)
R3-A2 (2)
Integrated Astromech (0)

Total: 100

View in Yet Another Squad Builder

So I kinda want to take this list, replace Jess with a Stresshog. To do it I'd have to go to R4-D6 on Biggs (which is fine). That'd give me points for an inspiring recruit on Rex to help keep the stresshog stress-free. Or a tactican on him for ALL THE STRESS

Devlan Mud
Apr 10, 2006




I'll hear your stories when we come back, alright?

ConfusedUs posted:

So I kinda want to take this list, replace Jess with a Stresshog. To do it I'd have to go to R4-D6 on Biggs (which is fine). That'd give me points for an inspiring recruit on Rex to help keep the stresshog stress-free. Or a tactican on him for ALL THE STRESS

My buddy placed 20th in Swiss at Hoth with a similar list, but dropping Bigg's R2-D2 to R4-D6, dropping the upgrades on Rex, putting M9-G8 on Jess, and replacing Roark with Braylen Stramm with R3-A2, Gunner, and Alliance Overhaul. Lock Jess onto Braylen, then you can roll 2 dice on your first attack and reroll a hit to a miss to trigger Gunner and then shoot three dice and reroll a miss on your second attack. It's a pretty potent (and expensive) way to double stress a ship without having to deal with the white-green dial of the Y-Wing.

e: four ship rebel lists are pretty good with Biggs and Rex IMO

ee: Roark Garnett is likewise really good, and four-ship rebel lists (using him and a combination of generic T-70s and TLT-Ywings) won two local store champs here as well.

Devlan Mud fucked around with this message at 19:57 on Mar 28, 2017

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

The slightest touch from a Gol-Shogeg will result in Instant Death!

banned from Starbucks posted:

Dash with both kanan and kyle would be a trip. Or R2D2 crew plus either of those guys

That's why you make it so the illicit renders the whole ship only able to take non-unique crew.

Gunner HotCoP OpSpec Han FTW

bunnyofdoom
Mar 29, 2008
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What is the least worst option for the imp list at this



(Rebel of course being triple X)

KongGeorgeVII
Feb 17, 2009

Flow like a
harpoon
daily and nightly.

Probably a crackswarm.

e:

"Howlrunner" — TIE Fighter 18
Crack Shot 1
Ship Total: 19

Black Squadron Pilot — TIE Fighter 14
Crack Shot 1
Ship Total: 15

Black Squadron Pilot — TIE Fighter 14
Crack Shot 1
Ship Total: 15

Black Squadron Pilot — TIE Fighter 14
Crack Shot 1
Ship Total: 15

"Zeta Leader" — TIE/fo Fighter 20
Crack Shot 1
Ship Total: 21

Academy Pilot — TIE Fighter 12
Ship Total: 12

This comes in at 97 points so you can potentially win the initiative bid thing so you get to pick which list you fly depending on matchup.

KongGeorgeVII fucked around with this message at 01:02 on Mar 29, 2017

canyoneer
Sep 13, 2005


I only have canyoneyes for you
Crackswarm is solid. Best Rebel list is probably Fat Han plus 2 A-Wings instead of the Z's, or a nice ace. Nera Dantels with deadeye/torps/Sabine/bombs would be fun :haw:

Panzeh
Nov 27, 2006

"..The high ground"
I don't think they'd let you take the TIE/fo in that format.

I'd probably go with Howl, 3 Black, 3 Academy crackswarm. The ships available aren't exactly wowsers and you should have no trouble making GBS threads all over them.

ConfusedUs
Feb 24, 2004

Bees?
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Here you go!
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This should poo poo all over most rebel lists you'd face. Pulling a Kylo on someone's Fat Han is gonna ruin their day hard.

https://geordanr.github.io/xwing/?f...amed%20Squadron

Arc dodge any jousting list you face, Kylo the turrets.

Napoleon Nelson
Nov 8, 2012


Shouldn't the YT-2400 be on that list too? I didn't see them specify non-Special Edition

KongGeorgeVII
Feb 17, 2009

Flow like a
harpoon
daily and nightly.

Panzeh posted:

I don't think they'd let you take the TIE/fo in that format.

I'd probably go with Howl, 3 Black, 3 Academy crackswarm. The ships available aren't exactly wowsers and you should have no trouble making GBS threads all over them.

Oops. Good point.I initially had the same 7 tie swarm you had, but then I started fiddling with things to get a bid for the first round so you could pick your matchup and forgot about the format requirements.

Brunas
Nov 5, 2012

ConfusedUs posted:

There were some janky rebel lists at Naboo that got caught on the Krayts' recordings. I want to try them.

I think my favorite was the one with

Biggs w/R2-D2, Integrated
Captain Rex w/Masterpiece, Slicer Tools
Roark (the PS12 HWK pilot) w/TLT, Operations Specialist
Jess Pava w/Stressbot, Integrated

Might be an upgrade or two I'm missing. Going by memory here.

It looked like a lot of fun. Use Roark to give someone a shot at PS12--probably Rex to suppress them. If it misses, give an extra focus to Biggs. Then at your regular PS everyone else shoots.

That list was amazing holy poo poo. I think you're right on the stresshog over jess pava though. It's very hard for something to be better than the stresshog...

Strobe
Jun 30, 2014
GW BRAINWORMS CREW
Jess Pava (24)
R4-D6/R2 Astromech (1)
Integrated Astromech (0)
Sensor Cluster (2)

Is about the only thing that even comes close on Rebel side. That ship is tanky as gently caress.

Admiral Joeslop
Jul 8, 2010




This list was given to me while they giggled.

YV-666: Trandoshan Slaver (29)
Jabba the Hutt (5)
Rigged Cargo Chute (1)

Lancer-class Pursuit Craft: Shadowport Hunter (33)
Rigged Cargo Chute (1)
Rigged Cargo Chute (1)

JumpMaster 5000: Contracted Scout (25)
Trick Shot (0)
Seismic Torpedo (2)
Seismic Torpedo (2)
Rigged Cargo Chute (1)
-- TOTAL ------- 100p. --

Turtlicious
Sep 17, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
I've always wanted to play this but money and lack of friends who would want to play this with me, has me looking at other online options does anyone here play on tabletop simulator, or is there a better program for playing online?

Raged
Jul 21, 2003

A revolution of beats
And so it begins.

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tankfish
May 31, 2013

Turtlicious posted:

I've always wanted to play this but money and lack of friends who would want to play this with me, has me looking at other online options does anyone here play on tabletop simulator, or is there a better program for playing online?

Ditto for this unless you play Warmahams or magic local scene is pretty dead where I live.

Chill la Chill
Jul 2, 2007

Don't lose your gay


Turtlicious posted:

I've always wanted to play this but money and lack of friends who would want to play this with me, has me looking at other online options does anyone here play on tabletop simulator, or is there a better program for playing online?

Vassal is the other online platform. Get both - TTS is half off right now and it's a great way to demo board games.

ConfusedUs
Feb 24, 2004

Bees?
You want fucking bees?
Here you go!
ROLL INITIATIVE!!





Brunas posted:

That list was amazing holy poo poo. I think you're right on the stresshog over jess pava though. It's very hard for something to be better than the stresshog...

The interesting thing about the Stresshog in this list is that you'll probably be able to toss it a focus, even if stressed, thanks to OpsSpec.

IronSaber
Feb 24, 2009

:roboluv: oh yes oh god yes form the head FORM THE HEAD unghhhh...:fap:

Admiral Joeslop posted:

This list was given to me while they giggled.

YV-666: Trandoshan Slaver (29)
Jabba the Hutt (5)
Rigged Cargo Chute (1)

Lancer-class Pursuit Craft: Shadowport Hunter (33)
Rigged Cargo Chute (1)
Rigged Cargo Chute (1)

JumpMaster 5000: Contracted Scout (25)
Trick Shot (0)
Seismic Torpedo (2)
Seismic Torpedo (2)
Rigged Cargo Chute (1)
-- TOTAL ------- 100p. --

I'm guessing the object of this squadron is to spam the board with cargo tokens for the enemy to crash into.

Admiral Joeslop
Jul 8, 2010




Yup. Gets you eight extra debris fields and you can shoot at two of them. Also a very expensive list.

Admiral Joeslop fucked around with this message at 20:26 on Mar 29, 2017

Some Numbers
Sep 28, 2006

"LET'S GET DOWN TO WORK!!"
And use Seismic Torpedoes to blow them up and damage ships.

ConfusedUs
Feb 24, 2004

Bees?
You want fucking bees?
Here you go!
ROLL INITIATIVE!!





That seems like the most obnoxious list. No one will get actions after the first couple of turns.

Unless they're Dash. Dash will laugh at this.

Chill la Chill
Jul 2, 2007

Don't lose your gay


Admiral Joeslop posted:

Yup. Gets you eight extra debris fields and you can stick a two of them. Also a very expensive list.

There are lots of anime characters to choose from to paint on the eight Lancers you need, friend.

ConfusedUs
Feb 24, 2004

Bees?
You want fucking bees?
Here you go!
ROLL INITIATIVE!!





Roark Garnet (19)
Twin Laser Turret (6)
Operations Specialist (3)

Gold Squadron Pilot (18)
Twin Laser Turret (6)
Bomb Loadout (0)
R3-A2 (2)
Ion Bombs (2)
BTL-A4 Y-Wing (0)

Biggs Darklighter (25)
R4-D6 (1)
Integrated Astromech (0)

Captain Rex (14)
Jan Ors (2)
Black Market Slicer Tools (1)
Sabine's Masterpiece (1)

Total: 100

View in Yet Another Squad Builder

Use the Stresshog to shut down enemy actions. Rex uses slicer tools for his action any time there's a stressed enemy nearby (which should be most turns). Roark gives PS12 to Rex to shoot first. Biggs triggers an evade from Jan Ors as his action, so feed him focuses with OpsSpec for anyone who misses. Rex will likely miss especially if he slices. Use bombs if anyone gets behind you. Could switch for seismic charges instead of ion bombs. Or hell drop the bombs and Jan for a second OpsSpec to get two focuses with every miss.

Seems dirty.

Strobe
Jun 30, 2014
GW BRAINWORMS CREW
Seems fragile. Roark or Biggs go down, either one, and the rest go in three turns. Four, maybe. At most.

Brunas
Nov 5, 2012

ConfusedUs posted:

The interesting thing about the Stresshog in this list is that you'll probably be able to toss it a focus, even if stressed, thanks to OpsSpec.

Yep.

Hell, you could end up with two or even three modded stresshog shots. What a bizarre world we live in...

Slandible
Apr 30, 2008

All primaries at 4 dice. Good idea, or terrible?

Upsilon-class Shuttle: Starkiller Base Pilot (30)
· Emperor Palpatine (8)

TIE Striker: · "Pure Sabacc" (22)
Trick Shot (0)
Lightweight Frame (2)
Adaptive ailerons (0)

TIE Phantom: · "Whisper" (32)
Veteran Instincts (1)
Collision Detector (0)
Advanced Cloaking Device (4)

Baron Fuzzlewhack
Sep 22, 2010

ALIVE ENOUGH TO DIE

ConfusedUs posted:

a second OpsSpec

Operations Specialist is Limited, probably to avoid the very scenario you described.

I messed around with that list with Jess Pava and the stress bot and drat is she tanky as hell.

I also switched out the TLT on Roark for an Ion Cannon Turret and messed around with the 1 leftover point in various ways, but the Ion Cannon Turret afforded some more control over the TLT when it would land. It also made Roark less of a target, which generally resulted in folks either shooting Rex (which means not shooting at the damage workhorse Jess) or shooting at Jess while she gets re-rolls and some help from Fire Suppression.

It's a really fun, janky list. Here it is in action:



And yes, my friend is running Pure Sabaac with 4x PS1 Interceptors. That was probably one of the most fun and visually awesome games we've played. I never thought I'd be terrified of watching a line of TIE Interceptors snaking their way through an asteroid field in perfect formation just to be a bunch of assholes by blocking my own beautiful formation and making it fall apart.

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ConfusedUs
Feb 24, 2004

Bees?
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Baron Fuzzlewhack posted:

Operations Specialist is Limited, probably to avoid the very scenario you described.

Limited means only one per ship. Unique means one per list. So you could put an OpSpec on Rex and one on Roark. :)

Baron Fuzzlewhack posted:

I messed around with that list with Jess Pava and the stress bot and drat is she tanky as hell.

I also switched out the TLT on Roark for an Ion Cannon Turret and messed around with the 1 leftover point in various ways, but the Ion Cannon Turret afforded some more control over the TLT when it would land. It also made Roark less of a target, which generally resulted in folks either shooting Rex (which means not shooting at the damage workhorse Jess) or shooting at Jess while she gets re-rolls and some help from Fire Suppression.

It's a really fun, janky list. Here it is in action:



And yes, my friend is running Pure Sabaac with 4x PS1 Interceptors. That was probably one of the most fun and visually awesome games we've played. I never thought I'd be terrified of watching a line of TIE Interceptors snaking their way through an asteroid field in perfect formation just to be a bunch of assholes by blocking my own beautiful formation and making it fall apart.

Yeah it looks like a super fun list. I'm just curious if a stresshog is going to be better than Jess.

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