TTerrible posted:

AoS is a horrendous abortion of a ruleset. Agreed.

EDIT: The one "good bit" of AoS I mentioned earlier was giving large creatures something like 10 wounds and they lose effectivenes as the wounds are lost. That's it.

TKIY posted:

AoS is a bad game that recently got better, and there are signs it will get better with Generals Handbook 2.

GW is a bad company that recently got better, and there are signs that their flagship game will get better with v8.

Old Necromunda was good, new Necromunda looks good.

Some new GW models are good, some are not, most are overpriced but not unreasonable.

These are all thoughts that my human meatbrain holds simultaneously.

ijyt posted:

Glad to see you're finally seeing sense! The 40K thread will gladly take any of you back.

ijyt posted:

Lmao being angry at a hobby you don't even do. It's like getting mad at Canon for only minimally improving their low-light performance and never having owned a camera.

ijyt posted:

Lmao being angry at a hobby you don't even do. It's like getting mad at Canon for only minimally improving their low-light performance and never having owned a camera.

spectralent posted:

I think "angry" kind of overstates it but there's a definite frustration with GW because GW does try and monopolise people's game spaces even though the games are poo poo. Like people said, if Necromunda does come back there's going to be a bunch of Infinity/Deadzone players who lose out because, even if it's poo poo, it has orks in it.

ijyt posted:

Am I reading this right. You're mad at competition in a capitalist system?

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You can play more than one tabletop game, they're not exclusive when you have a regular pay cheque!

spectralent posted:

I get that like half this thread is shitposting but it's still the "JOKES ON YOU I WAS ONLY PRETENDING" comic.

ijyt posted:

Lmao being angry at a hobby you don't even do. It's like getting mad at Canon for only minimally improving their low-light performance and never having owned a camera.

spectralent posted:

lol what

Xarbala posted:

This is actually, genuinely the funniest things have been in a while.

Though irl the only person actually angry here is Stanyer, for unrelated reasons.

spectralent posted:

I dunno, I never found the "I'm saying a thing that dumb people believe for real, which is funny because I'm not actually one of the dumb people" gag really stupid because it relies on having opinions so well known that it's obviously a joke and most people aren't that popular. Like, you'd need to be Nixon saying how much he loves commies for it to not just come off as "Oh, this person actually has lovely opinions".

ijyt posted:

Lmao being angry at a hobby you don't even do. It's like getting mad at Canon for only minimally improving their low-light performance and never having owned a camera.

Xarbala posted:

This is actually, genuinely the funniest things have been in a while.

Though irl the only person actually angry here is Stanyer, for unrelated reasons.

Atlas Hugged posted:

I'm super excited now that GW has changed directions and makes the best rules and the best games. But since GW was super awful for a couple of decades, I went ahead and started buying reasonably priced miniatures that weren't over designed garbage. Now that I'm playing GW games again, can I use these new miniatures to recreate battles in the 41st millennium?

ijyt posted:

This thread seems to do a lot of things it supposedly hates!

panascope posted:

I think once you see the quality and detail of your typical GW box compared to trash like Malifaux that the price difference becomes understandable. You pay for the quality.

Skinty McEdger posted:

If you think about it, wishing death upon cultures and pursuits you don't really understand and that are alien to you is the most 40k thing of them all.

Xarbala posted:

Atlas Hugged posted:

Guys, I am blown away by the fact that in a game, as a unit takes damage, it can be reduced in effectiveness. I think I am definitely going to trust my money with a company who has such groundbreaking ideas as that.

spectralent posted:

I'm pretty sure Hordes or Warmachine do this already, though (though I don't play either, so I can't be sure).

spectralent posted:

I dunno, I never found the "I'm saying a thing that dumb people believe for real, which is funny because I'm not actually one of the dumb people" gag really stupid because it relies on having opinions so well known that it's obviously a joke and most people aren't that popular. Like, you'd need to be Nixon saying how much he loves commies for it to not just come off as "Oh, this person actually has lovely opinions".

Atlas Hugged posted:

I'm super excited now that GW has changed directions and makes the best rules and the best games. But since GW was super awful for a couple of decades, I went ahead and started buying reasonably priced miniatures that weren't over designed garbage. Now that I'm playing GW games again, can I use these new miniatures to recreate battles in the 41st millennium?

TTerrible posted:

Is it worse to do this or to be the person continually replying to it.

Hixson posted:

Just buy GW models? They're priced appropriately for their quality. Most people (me included) won't play with you if you have some stupid warmahordes or whatever models

Atlas Hugged posted:

Everything about GW is still garbage. You guys have just mistaken "better than other garbage" for "not garbage" and I get why that's an easy mistake to make.

Atlas Hugged posted:

But I already own models. I don't need new models. We can play with these ones right now. If I buy new ones, I may never build or paint them. These are built and painted. I just want to play the dang game man. Why don't you want to play this game you've invested thousands of dollars in?

Atlas Hugged posted:

But I already own models. I don't need new models. We can play with these ones right now. If I buy new ones, I may never build or paint them. These are built and painted. I just want to play the dang game man. Why don't you want to play this game you've invested thousands of dollars in?

Mango Polo posted:

I agree. Brothers, it is with deep regret that I've decided to withdraw my Great Company back to the Aett and submit to spiritual cleansing by the Wolf Priests after one too many losses. My stubborness in refusing allies, even ones which are approved by the Rout such as the Imperial Knights allied to Fenris, Imperial Guard regiments seeking glory alongside the Rout, even the beautiful and war worthy Celestine .....

.... sigh, sorry can't make a nice narrative out of this. Put it simply, I'm tired of 40K and my wolves and will retire from the scene until 8th edition. Since I started in 2014, I've only made use of Space Wolves, first the 6th Ed codex, then Champions of Fenris, then Curse of the Wulfen. I keep telling myself that I don't need to jump on the allied or multiple detachment to defeat Eldar, Tau, Necrons or even our supposedly subpar (at least until Traitors Legion supplement) enemies the Chaos Space Marines. Now though, it appears that no matter what I do, even if I am tactically sound which according to most of my opponents I am, I keep handing myself the smackdown by choosing to face SM/CSM with Imperial Knights allies, Ynnari, Cawl buffed Mechanicum, and heck, most recently, a simple formation of 4 daemon princes called Tetrachs.

4 Daemons (plus a small CAD of nurgle daemons). Smashed my entire force of 1500 wolves. Which had Wulfen, Iron Priest on wolf, even a Stormfang Gunship for anti-air which I was anticipating, though not 4 FMCs. And to round it off, a small Deathpack formation to be able to run and charge a TWC gang and a Thunderlord with shield an sword. rest of army was 3 Drop pods of MSU.

If that isn't depressing, I don't know what is. I've been tabled before and was able to laugh like mad, even to Tau. This one along with many others just left a very sour taste in my mouth. They didn't just bring a gun to a knife fight. They brought automatic weapons, a tank, an F22 raptor and a nuke as well.

Sorry mates, my wolf spirit has been quenched, along with my 40K spirit. That being said, I haven't written off the hobby entirely and have decided to focus on just assembly and painting at least for a few months before going back, hopefully just in time for 8th Edition. I still love the Vlka Fenryka. I have no intention of going vanilla or any other army. But it looks like I have to accept in my heart that for a long time now, the Wolves have not been able to stand up themselves, even after Curse of the Wulfen came out.

A Blood Angel friend of mine has suggested 30K as an alternative, which I've accepted and therefore will be focusing on painting ALL my Burning of Prospero figures into the 6th Legion. Get me into the painting groove and at the same time, it's almost like making a fresh new army without giving up my first love of the Vlka Fenryka.

Another alternative is to find a different FLGS for different meta.

I just wish I could forget about competitiveness and just play with whatever the heck I want, even Swiftclaws and Skyclaws. Sadly if i do that, I'm handing a big "SMASH ME" sign to my whole meta. The kind of meta who will never play mutilators, non flying hive tyrant Tyrannid swarms or assault marines beyond skyhammer formation.

Don't know why I'm posting this, I guess I'm hoping that what I feel is normal among some of you old timers especially between edition changes, or whether you guys have ever felt "tired" of your army before.

Until the next winter.