Zero Gravitas posted:Welp the frankenstein machine worked out pretty well and I'm looking at getting decent hardware. Anything other than the 1700 is a ripoff compared to it, you might get an extra 100-200MHz if you are lucky and you go with an 1800X, pretty much every Ryzen 7 CPU will do at least 3.9GHz, and many 1700s will do 4GHz, especially on water.
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Zero Gravitas posted:Welp the frankenstein machine worked out pretty well and I'm looking at getting decent hardware. Depends on price. At Microcenter, the 1700X costs $20 more than a 1700.
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Mar 29, 2017 20:51
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Zero Gravitas posted:Welp the frankenstein machine worked out pretty well and I'm looking at getting decent hardware. I would just get the 1700 with better cooling. The 1700x is more likely to hit 3.9 @ 1.363V or something but you'll need the cooling to be able to do that.
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Mar 29, 2017 20:52
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Theres a fifty quid difference between the 1700 and 1700X, then theres VAT at 20% on top of that. You folks are right that a basic water cooler is basically the same as the price difference. Looks like I'll be getting a 1700 if I can find a water cooler that has got fittings for AM4.
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Mar 29, 2017 21:04
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Corsair mailed me to say they are shipping all pre-ordered AM4 brackets by April 7th. Don't forget some people might buy your wraith spire RGB because of RGB, which further improves the value of the 1700.
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Mar 29, 2017 21:08
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I got a 1700 for $250. Can the wraith cooler over clock well or I am I better getting s hyper 212 or another aftermarket CPU cooler
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Mar 29, 2017 22:49
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Rabid Snake posted:I got a 1700 for $250. Can the wraith cooler over clock well or I am I better getting s hyper 212 or another aftermarket CPU cooler get a all in one if overclocking is the answer?
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Mar 29, 2017 23:17
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From what i've heard is the wraith is decent up to about 95w which can probably get you up to around 3.6-3.7. Some people claim they're hitting 4.0 @ 1.35v or something on the wraith, but I bet that works for about 10s under stress tests before it shuts down due to thermals. If you're going to overclock, I'd get something better than a 212
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Mar 29, 2017 23:23
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Rabid Snake posted:I got a 1700 for $250. Can the wraith cooler over clock well or I am I better getting s hyper 212 or another aftermarket CPU cooler Ryzen needs to be run at fairly high voltages and produces a lot of heat so it's recommended that you go with a 240-280mm AIO if you want to get the most out of your chip.
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Mar 29, 2017 23:47
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Check them gains, brah. https://www.pcper.com/reviews/Processors/Ashes-Singularity-Gets-Ryzen-Performance-Update Courtesy of PCPer twitter, before and after of Ryzen performance pass. SwissArmyDruid fucked around with this message at 04:33 on Mar 30, 2017 |
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Mar 30, 2017 04:42
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I'm not seeing min frame results in those tests, what are they showing for that? E-^^ I rechecked and assumed I was just missing something  quote:ASUS Crosshair VI Hero motherboard (1002) and upgraded to some Geil RGB (!!) memory capable of running at 3200 MHz on this board with a single BIOS setting adjustment. GRINDCORE MEGGIDO fucked around with this message at 05:10 on Mar 30, 2017 |
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Mar 30, 2017 05:02
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I wonder if Golden Emperor International Ltd is aware that their trademark means "horny" in German ja, ich bin sehr GeIL bb 
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Mar 30, 2017 05:19
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Perfect. Wonder how that affects sales in Germany.
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Mar 30, 2017 05:26
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Paul MaudDib posted:edit: wait that's not min/average fps I'm assuming it's average FPS in different software versions. kirtar fucked around with this message at 06:05 on Mar 30, 2017 |
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Mar 30, 2017 06:01
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Jesus Paul edit your post, we are all going retarded.
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GRINDCORE MEGGIDO posted:I'm not seeing min frame results in those tests, what are they showing for that? I thought about excerpting that... but decided it wasn't necessary as they re-ran tests on 2400 MHz as well as 3200 MHz and have both results listed separately there.
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Mar 30, 2017 07:29
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AMD sale at newegg!  https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113287
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eames posted:AMD sale at newegg! This one is of the Piledriver architecture, so I'm not so sure about this.
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Mar 30, 2017 08:39
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You mean the part where it says "32nm Vishera 95W" right in the middle wasn't warning enough?
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Some dude at /r/amd claims he benchmarked ryzen with same memory at 2133 and 3200, and got pretty big difference in avg fps: https://www.reddit.com/r/amd/comments/62aigz https://imgur.com/a/sbwqK Will be interesting to see how close to 7700K amd can get with faster ram, bettwr bioses, optimized games & windows 10 game mode/optimizations. So far it looks like that at launch day a lot of performance was still on left on the table.
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Mar 30, 2017 10:58
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Paul MaudDib posted:I wonder if Golden Emperor International Ltd is aware that their trademark means "horny" in German Horny in Dutch, cool in German.
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Ihmemies posted:Some dude at /r/amd claims he benchmarked ryzen with same memory at 2133 and 3200, and got pretty big difference in avg fps: https://www.reddit.com/r/amd/comments/62aigz Huh. No difference in Blender. That is odd. Even if every thread is completely self-contained without any crosstalk between complexes, you'd think that they would still gain from the increased memory clock.
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Ihmemies posted:Some dude at /r/amd claims he benchmarked ryzen with same memory at 2133 and 3200, and got pretty big difference in avg fps: https://www.reddit.com/r/amd/comments/62aigz Finewine :iamafag: So far the ram speed difference is very slight with my 1700 when benchmarking TotalWar:Warhammer and DoW2 @1080p ultra. The avg fps difference between 2400 and 2933 is basically another 100mhz worth of clockspeed. If that improvement scales perfectly and the IMC doesn't diaf, going up to 3400 or 4000ish would be pretty nice gains given the platfrom is process limited to around 4.0-4.1 ghz. If you are encoding, doing compression, or compiling there will probably be more visible gains. AMD posted:Let’s talk BIOS updates Risky Bisquick fucked around with this message at 14:56 on Mar 30, 2017 |
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Mar 30, 2017 14:49
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Here's one Finnish guy doing memory speed tests at 1080p, 2133-3600MHz: https://bbs.io-tech.fi/threads/amd-ryzen-am4-x370-kellotukset-ja-kokemukset.14849/page-34#post-727841 Some games benefit from memory speed more than others. The trend seems to be that you get small to noticeable improvements with faster memory. Does memory speed matter so much with intel cpu's too? 🤔
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Risky Bisquick posted:
I guess I'm benignly pleased about this. When did we think that AMD was going to bring out their new stepping again? June-ish?
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PCGW got some interesting results on the new Ashes Ryzen update Internal benchmark:  Actual gameplay:  🤔
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repiv posted:PCGW got some interesting results on the new Ashes Ryzen update Uh-oh.
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Was zur Holle?
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repiv posted:PCGW got some interesting results on the new Ashes Ryzen update Hahahahahaha are you kidding me. Did they simply update their benchmark?
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repiv posted:PCGW got some interesting results on the new Ashes Ryzen update That's, uhhhh, a thing. 
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Wait did they optimize specifically for the benchmark and nothing else or something?
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Seems similar to Quack3.exe but on the CPU side if true.
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Cardboard Box A posted:Wait did they optimize specifically for the benchmark and nothing else or something? That's probably it. To add insult to injury, Brad Wardell said that patch was the result of 400 developer-hours of work. It wasn't some lone devs side project.
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Maybe they test the changes in benchmark before committing them to the actual game? Just in case it screws something up, since it's a new thing and all that...
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Better hope so, I would expect a statement to be forthcoming.
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There's has got to be VW joke in there somewhere 
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repiv posted:That's probably it. To add insult to injury, Brad Wardell said that patch was the result of 400 developer-hours of work. It wasn't some lone devs side project. I have significant doubts that they would be that blatant when it can be so readily discovered. Regardless, they've updated their benches with 6900k results, it's looking far more like this is an issue with CPU's and lots of cores: quote:Update 31.03.2017: After more time, we have added our 1080p high benchmarks to the DX12 results of the Core i7-6900K as well as its system details in the specifications. The results are as expected for the integrated benchmark: unchanged in the CPU part with a slight decrease in the GPU part - analog to the i7-7700K.
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Adorned points out massive DX12 performance gains by Ryzen when using an AMD GPU instead of the usual Nvidia: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tfTZjugDeg His theory is a better DX12 API that works better for AMD CPUs.
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I thought the prevailing hypothesis was that AMD GPU drivers have a larger CPU overhead, so alleviating that in any way possible will move more of the bottleneck onto the GPU.
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