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The massive windowed arboretum looks like a huge weak spot in the design. That's got to be a good, what? 20-30 stories high?
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The_Doctor posted:The massive windowed arboretum looks like a huge weak spot in the design. That's got to be a good, what? 20-30 stories high? Until I saw the cover image I thought that was a cutaway to show off the interior of that big green space in the middle. The glowing edge even makes it look like it's covered with a forcefield which is just  if your tech level is anywhere below "Green Lantern".
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Mar 30, 2017 10:36
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Eh, it's a starbase. Besides, if there was a battle the shields went down, you're hosed no matter where they shoot. And I doubt anyone hangs around in the park during battle. That's a really awful render of the park, though. Would it have killed them to spend half an hour doing a faux interior projection? Or at least pick a texture that slightly looks like it works? MikeJF fucked around with this message at 10:45 on Mar 30, 2017 |
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Mar 30, 2017 10:42
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The Mega Bloks giant Enterprise is on sale for just $99 on Amazon
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Mar 30, 2017 12:37
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That's just NuDS9's equivalent to the "Forcefield To Prove That We're In Space" Room that Picard takes Lily to in First Contact.
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Mar 30, 2017 13:35
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The one where she's like "that's the shittiest matte painting Earth I've ever seen"?
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Mar 30, 2017 13:39
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I've read the novels and it's basically a giant recreation area
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Mar 30, 2017 13:57
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Not if you are not in the states. $76 for customs and shipping.
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Mar 30, 2017 14:26
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FlamingLiberal posted:I've read the novels and it's basically a giant recreation area Who runs the station in the novels? Hopefully nog and quark are still kicking around DS9 in the books!
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Mar 30, 2017 14:28
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Data Graham posted:The one where she's like "that's the shittiest matte painting Earth I've ever seen"? I love that they left out New Zealand.
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Mar 30, 2017 14:41
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MikeJF posted:I love that they left out New Zealand. Hey, it's the future. Maybe something happened to it!
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Mar 30, 2017 14:43
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Bohemian Nights posted:Hey, it's the future. Maybe something happened to it! It's where the Eugenics Wars took place, and now it no longer exists.
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Mar 30, 2017 14:45
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Hot Dog Day #82 posted:Who runs the station in the novels? Hopefully nog and quark are still kicking around DS9 in the books!
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Mar 30, 2017 15:04
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1000 Brown M and Ms posted:What gets me about the vertical rings is that they are obviously there for visual continuity with Terok Nor, but they're not docking pylons. They have no obvious purpose. Why are they there? I live in an apartment on one of the lower vertical rings and getting anywhere is a pain in the rear end. You'd think you could use transporters, but there's too many drat people on the station who have to get poo poo done so by the time you get to the front of the line you could've walked there. You can do what most people do and wait for the turbolift (which is always crammed with people and gets backed up) or you can take a "personnel" spot on one of the supply trams but then you have to climb a bunch of catwalks and go through a a mountain of paperwork. You better not have business anywhere but the promenade. Heaven help you if you have to travel to another ring because it's just a web of trams, hallways, and turbolifts. Non-perishable item request replicators for Federation citizens btw are on the opposite ring as the habitation ring so you know, good luck with that.
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Mar 30, 2017 15:26
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vermin posted:I live in an apartment on one of the lower vertical rings and getting anywhere is a pain in the rear end. You'd think you could use transporters, but there's too many drat people on the station who have to get poo poo done so by the time you get to the front of the line you could've walked there. Sounds like getting between the primary and secondary hulls of the Oberth class. Who the hell thought turbolifts running at 45 degree angles were a good idea?
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Mar 30, 2017 15:29
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Bohemian Nights posted:Hey, it's the future. Maybe something happened to it! It was moved to make the land bridge between Australia and Papua New Guinea. The_Doctor posted:Sounds like getting between the primary and secondary hulls of the Oberth class. Who the hell thought turbolifts running at 45 degree angles were a good idea? You know, as goofy as Andromeda got I liked the little details like the hallway sets sometimes curving up or down in the distance, the ship was supposed to be like 4 km long and if you're already using artificial gravity, why not? A turbolift could spin and tumble like a freaking beyblade and you'd never notice as long as the floor had a separate gravity field, it's all relative.
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Mar 30, 2017 16:43
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The_Doctor posted:Sounds like getting between the primary and secondary hulls of the Oberth class. Who the hell thought turbolifts running at 45 degree angles were a good idea? To be fair, they put regular lifts in the Eiffel Tower. The angle isn't as steep, but they had to do it with 19th century technology.
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Mar 30, 2017 16:53
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I always hated that Oberth explanation. I much prefer the concept of the lower hull being a giant unmanned sensor pod and the actual vessel is just the saucer and nacelles.
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Mar 30, 2017 16:56
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The_Doctor posted:Sounds like getting between the primary and secondary hulls of the Oberth class. Who the hell thought turbolifts running at 45 degree angles were a good idea? Probably the descendants of the people who built the Olympic Stadium in Montreal.
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Mar 30, 2017 17:00
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Big Mean Jerk posted:I always hated that Oberth explanation. I much prefer the concept of the lower hull being a giant unmanned sensor pod and the actual vessel is just the saucer and nacelles. I agree, but the idea that everyone's riding sideways turbolifts like some kind of carnival attraction is too funny.
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Mar 30, 2017 17:10
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Knormal posted:This ended up being the perfect example of why you need producers, directors, etc. to reign in the creatives. That this was designed by Doug Drexler and Andrew Probert, who together are responsible for tons of the most iconic Trek designs. Granted they were kind of boxed-in by the descriptions of the new station from the novel it premeired in, but still that design needed some people sending them back to tweaking. Obviously none of the novel people are going to tell Drexler or Probert to try again, given their pedigree. Probert I'll give you, but Drexler's work on Star Trek was primarily on the graphics side. The only ship he ever actually designed was the NX class (and the NX refit he proposed was loving hideous).
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Mar 30, 2017 18:18
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Timby posted:Probert I'll give you, but Drexler's work on Star Trek was primarily on the graphics side. The only ship he ever actually designed was the NX class (and the NX refit he proposed was loving hideous). Any images?
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Mar 30, 2017 19:02
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WattsvilleBlues posted:Any images?  
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Mar 30, 2017 19:04
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Ehh, that's fine.
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Mar 30, 2017 19:07
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Timby posted:The only ship he ever actually designed was the NX class plagiarized from the Akira
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Mar 30, 2017 19:26
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Refit looks good in that it looks like a refit, so slightly off and not a true original design, but also a plausible link between NX ENT and later ships. It's good, even if ugly, and I don't even think it's that ugly. Whats the explanation? Warp 6 engine that much bigger or put apart for safety somehow?
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Mar 30, 2017 19:33
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It's really not that bad
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Mar 30, 2017 19:40
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I like its little belly
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Mar 30, 2017 19:46
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I am so loving glad they didn't do that. I enjoy Enterprise but if that monstrosity was the direction I'm happy it got canceled. (I feel the same way about Firefly.)
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Mar 30, 2017 19:55
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Fat tadpole stardrive
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Mar 30, 2017 20:04
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FuturePastNow posted:plagiarized from the Akira That was a top-down decision, he had to convince them not to just make it THE Akira.
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Mar 30, 2017 20:06
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FuturePastNow posted:plagiarized from the Akira That was all on Berman and Braga. They wanted to straight-up re-use the Akira, rationalizing that because it had only had background appearances in First Contact and in DS9, no one would really notice or care. Drexler was basically forced into the basic shape, but succeeded in pushing through some structural changes to make it look like a much older design (or at least as much as he could).
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Mar 30, 2017 20:11
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That thing looks like the NX and the Constitution had a transporter accident. The Tuvix of ships. e: Why does it have two deflectors?
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Mar 30, 2017 20:18
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Timby posted:That was all on Berman and Braga. They wanted to straight-up re-use the Akira, rationalizing that because it had only had background appearances in First Contact and in DS9, no one would really notice or care. Drexler was basically forced into the basic shape, but succeeded in pushing through some structural changes to make it look like a much older design (or at least as much as he could). drat, these people don't know their audience at ALL.
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Mar 30, 2017 20:25
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Brawnfire posted:drat, these people don't know their audience at ALL. People are already mad about that wireframe ship in the Discovery teaser trailer that looks too modern for the TOS era.
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Mar 30, 2017 20:42
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Lord Hydronium posted:e: Why does it have two deflectors? Because Drexler is not a good designer. He's a fan of Gabe Koerner's hideous concept for a rebooted 1701: 
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Mar 30, 2017 20:49
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That Connie is almost good. The cut-outs on the front of the neck and the bottom of the secondary hull are just...weird.
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Mar 30, 2017 21:17
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I think it's a good look for an alternate universe take, I wouldn't want it to be the regular ship but I could handle it in like a TOS version of "Yesterday's Enterprise" or "Parallels". (If either of those episodes were made today I imagine they'd have a bit of fun with the CG model, especially the latter.)
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Mar 30, 2017 21:22
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I'd have liked it to be the JJPrise.
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I can't tell what's a good spaceship design and what isn't but this looks like an eye-puzzle.
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