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Tekopo posted:Ideally we should put everyone that posts about GWS/WH/40k/AoS in a separate forum so that they don't pollute the rest of TG any more If this means bringing back Eternity of War  
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Tekopo posted:Ideally we should put everyone that posts about GWS/WH/40k/AoS in a separate forum so that they don't pollute the rest of TG any more You'd have a forum dedicated to figuring out which broken Netlist you should run in the next X-Wing tournament, and one thread that still can't figure out how to use camo in Infinity. Fun.
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Mar 30, 2017 15:02
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ijyt posted:This is a sad post, you understand that those threads are pillars of this subforum? Without them you don't have much of a subforum left. lmao nice
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Mar 30, 2017 15:03
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I'm glad you agree!
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Mar 30, 2017 15:04
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ijyt you never answered my question about using my models, don't you want to game? 
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Mar 30, 2017 15:09
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Ashcans posted:ijyt you never answered my question about using my models, don't you want to game? I did! If they're current edition legal it's fine!
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Mar 30, 2017 15:12
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Maybe all the GW threads can get moved to the literal racial ghetto in D&D that got made for *some reason*
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Mar 30, 2017 15:14
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ijyt posted:This is a sad post, you understand that those threads are pillars of this subforum? Without them you don't have much of a subforum left.
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Mar 30, 2017 15:16
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I mostly post in the board game and MTG threads anyway so I wouldn't really see any difference whatsoever. 
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Mar 30, 2017 15:17
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Tekopo posted:tgd is stronger than those threads, we were prospering before the incursion of warhammer posters, ie the dark times I'm not sure how that's possible since GW invented games.
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Mar 30, 2017 15:17
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ijyt posted:I did! If they're current edition legal it's fine! I think you answered Atlas Hugged, not my follow up. What does 'current edition legal' mean? I have a ton of Eldar miniatures made by GW, but many of them have weapons or equipment that either doesn't exist in the modern edition, or isn't legal for them to have. I also have older versions of current models which in modern rules have equipment that isn't reflect at all in their appearance. Am I suppose to rebuy all this stuff or break it all down and remodel it myself because the rules changed? It takes a long time to build a collection like mine, I invested time and effort in GW and I feel like I'm being punished for supporting them so long.
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Mar 30, 2017 15:20
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It's kind of amazing how GW fans are even bad at being bad.
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Mar 30, 2017 15:21
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You see, treating minis units like you would a card game treating cards that go into a deck interchangeably is the same and good because
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Mar 30, 2017 15:22
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Ashcans posted:I think you answered Atlas Hugged, not my follow up. What does 'current edition legal' mean? I have a ton of Eldar miniatures made by GW, but many of them have weapons or equipment that either doesn't exist in the modern edition, or isn't legal for them to have. I also have older versions of current models which in modern rules have equipment that isn't reflect at all in their appearance. Am I suppose to rebuy all this stuff or break it all down and remodel it myself because the rules changed? It takes a long time to build a collection like mine, I invested time and effort in GW and I feel like I'm being punished for supporting them so long. You're in luck actually, GW is releasing something that should be very useful to you. You can use the new Citadel Saw set to remove the illegal weapon choices and replace them with new ones from the recent kits.
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Mar 30, 2017 15:24
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Chill la Chill posted:You see, treating minis units like you would a card game treating cards that go into a deck interchangeably is the same and good because I think you'll find that ACTUALLY collecting miniatures is The Hobby and the games are just window dressing for your perfect collection of muscled ubermench plastic dolls. Maybe show GW some gratitude, geez
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Mar 30, 2017 15:28
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MikeCrotch posted:Maybe all the GW threads can get moved to the literal racial ghetto in D&D that got made for *some reason* They literally asked for a safe space if I remember right
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Mar 30, 2017 15:30
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ijyt posted:You're in luck actually, GW is releasing something that should be very useful to you. You can use the new Citadel Saw set to remove the illegal weapon choices and replace them with new ones from the recent kits. Lol come on man you have to be more subtle In other news I ordered my Fat Yuan Yuan and cannot wait to get my neckbeard tubby merc rolling a crit on some take out chinese Its Rinaldo fucked around with this message at 15:38 on Mar 30, 2017 |
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Mar 30, 2017 15:31
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spectralent posted:In fairness I've never noticed this but maybe it's less of a thing if you play in a non-ham store. At my non-ham store, the non-hams players don't care what models you bring so long as it is obvious what everything is. A basic scifi trooper with a machine gun should be a basic scifi trooper with a machine gun. But we all play multiple games and there are dozens of units per army in every game so there's no way any of us could ever reasonably memorize everything, so we're already used to going through what every unit is at the start of a game. The hams players refuse to "mix miniatures" because they are all weirdos.
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Mar 30, 2017 15:34
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Bad Moon posted:Lol come on man you have to be more subtle Conversion is an integral part of the hobby, you need to be committed, or don't expect for decades old models to still be rules legal, they change like laws in real life.
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Mar 30, 2017 15:37
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Atlas Hugged posted:At my non-ham store, the non-hams players don't care what models you bring so long as it is obvious what everything is. A basic scifi trooper with a machine gun should be a basic scifi trooper with a machine gun. But we all play multiple games and there are dozens of units per army in every game so there's no way any of us could ever reasonably memorize everything, so we're already used to going through what every unit is at the start of a game. It's just a little jarring when there's a table full of mix matched units with some being heroic scale, while others aren't. My favorite part about warhammer is competitive list building and narrative building. It's hard to have an immersive narrative when there's off brand minis on the table.
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Mar 30, 2017 15:43
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GW stuff isn't even scaled consistently within their own ranges. Who cares if "bulky man in space armor" has a slightly different profile than "other bulky man in space armor". They're 28mm tall.
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Mar 30, 2017 15:48
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Atlas Hugged posted:GW stuff isn't even scaled consistently within their own ranges. Who cares if "bulky man in space armor" has a slightly different profile than "other bulky man in space armor". They're 28mm tall. If generic "bulky man in space armor" looks exactly like a space marine you're getting into IP theft territory. Which imo is just a lovely thing to do. Just buy an actual space marine at that point.
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Mar 30, 2017 15:53
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Hixson posted:If generic "bulky man in space armor" looks exactly like a space marine you're getting into IP theft territory. Which imo is just a lovely thing to do. This is a pretty clever strawman. It's obviously a space warrior in some kind of powered armor, but it does not have the same silhouette as a space marine. It's also cheaper and more aesthetically pleasing in my opinion. I've said before, either you want to play the game or you don't. I have models. I'm willing to play. You scoff at my models. You don't actually want to play. And I can't blame you. I don't have 8 hours to waste on boredom and frustration either.
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Mar 30, 2017 15:55
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Atlas Hugged posted:GW stuff isn't even scaled consistently within their own ranges. Who cares if "bulky man in space armor" has a slightly different profile than "other bulky man in space armor". They're 28mm tall. lol that's not what 28mm means
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Mar 30, 2017 15:54
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TheChirurgeon posted:lol that's not what 28mm means OK, 28mm scale, whatever. Please go after the argument and not a misapplication of a term.
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Mar 30, 2017 15:58
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Atlas Hugged posted:I don't have 8 hours to waste on boredom and frustration either. Games don't take 8 hours to play. The longest game I've ever played was like 5000 points a side and it was about 5 hours to play, with a long break in the middle for drinking and pizza.
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Mar 30, 2017 16:02
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Atlas Hugged posted:OK, 28mm scale, whatever. Please go after the argument and not a misapplication of a term. What argument? Most people I know don't care that much. I regularly play with buffalo chicken who sculpts stuff and makes conversions from all kinds of poo poo. It's a pain to track what's what in those games, but if we aren't playing for serious, I don't care. Now on the subject of whether we'd game, I'd probably still turn you down because you seem like someone who is deeply unpleasant to game with, regardless of the minis
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tallkidwithglasses posted:Games don't take 8 hours to play. The longest game I've ever played was like 5000 points a side and it was about 5 hours to play, with a long break in the middle for drinking and pizza. Hyperbole, but not really. People here play Apocalypse and even in the write-ups it comes across a purely miserable experience for everyone involved and I can't figure out why they keep doing it. We can get multiple games of Deadzone or Kings of War in in the same time it takes people to setup and play a few turns of 40k.
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Mar 30, 2017 16:03
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if your model does have a skull on it then gently caress you
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Mar 30, 2017 16:07
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Allow me to demonstrate how nonchalant and uncaring I am by typing paragraphs at people for using the term "28mm" incorrectly
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Mar 30, 2017 16:07
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TheChirurgeon posted:Now on the subject of whether we'd game, I'd probably still turn you down because you seem like someone who is deeply unpleasant to game with, regardless of the minis I'll live.
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Mar 30, 2017 16:08
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gas this thread ban all posters burn the land boil the sea you can't take xwangs from me
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Mar 30, 2017 16:10
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I'd say the GW cultists will get theirs shortly but we saw with AoS GW can squat all the teams and lore and release the worst game imaginable but sunk costs will always trump reason eventually in some folk. I'm looking forward to AoS40k though because those early days when we all had ideas of how it might be alright then every piece of real info was worse and bafflingly awful... those were the salad days. The latest releases are so end times it's incredible, check out the tactics pages for the 40k version of the united elf army and it's like "don't play this because it's too OP" and guilliman buffs your whole army massively. When people say GW has improved they generally mean they're selling things people want to buy (at huge markup and with monopose CAD models) and putting out Facebook posts. There's actually no evidence they're getting better at writing rules but then again who actually wants to play Warhammer lmao. It's "the hobby" not a game.
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Mar 30, 2017 16:11
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Moola PMs me regularly to ask about what 40k models he should buy and what list he should bring. Kind of weird but whatever 
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Mar 30, 2017 16:11
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why have people been poasting poo poo from some gw fan board all night
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Mar 30, 2017 16:14
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panascope posted:Moola PMs me regularly to ask about what 40k models he should buy and what list he should bring. Kind of weird but whatever 
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panascope posted:Moola PMs me regularly to ask about what 40k models he should buy and what list he should bring. Kind of weird but whatever hosed up if true,
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Mar 30, 2017 16:24
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lol cultists cultists CULTISTS 
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Mar 30, 2017 16:26
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nopantsjack posted:I'd say the GW cultists will get theirs shortly but we saw with AoS GW can squat all the teams and lore and release the worst game imaginable but sunk costs will always trump reason eventually in some folk. Sure, getting rules in boxes of models (usually on instruction books) CAN be useful, just look in the N&R forum, where the Tartaros Terminators rules are already being posted. Mainly, though, these should be kept for boxes of units that are totally new releases for the active gaming system. Now, Angels of Death, for example, missed the ticket here, slightly. It could have consolidated ALL the generic C:SM stuff that had been released since the codex, even chapter specific like Shadow Force Solaq, for example. (That might be it, I didn't get any of the Damocles books). AoS was, in my mind, reasonably priced for what you got. None of the fluff was copy/paste like you get with codexes (if you are familiar with previous editions). Add in the fact that Third Edition cut almost all the fluff out of codexes, you had just the rules, and they were all under £10 each, with sub-faction books around £4 a piece. However, a lot of flavour was missing from third edition, much less available than there is now. I guess, at the end of the day, it totally depends on your local meta, though. Do you have players there that care more about having the most powerful lists over lists that fit the lore of the faction they are playing, etc.?
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panascope posted:Moola PMs me regularly to ask about what 40k models he should buy and what list he should bring. Kind of weird but whatever Southpaugh posted:hosed up if true,
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