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Nickoten posted:Seriously, I don't get why people are still surprised/outraged that video game consoles are hard to find at launch. There always conspiracy theories that Sony or Nintendo are hatching some nefarious scheme to make us want their consoles more, but no one ever seems to entertain the idea that maybe estimating demand and securing supply for a new product might be difficult. I distinctly remember a story back when the PS2 had first come out in Japan that the demand was so high that Sony had to resort to insane alternative measures just to get units out, like this elderly couple that assembled some of them in their garage and shipped them back to Sony to sell. Kind of makes me wonder if Nintendo ever does weird stuff like that.
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I doubt Nintendo would settle for anything less than their established pipeline for getting supply out.
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Ornamented Death posted:Just make sure to delete the ROM within 24 hours! And if you're a cop, you can't even enter the web site because there's a disclaimer saying so.
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Mar 30, 2017 16:11
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The Previously Recorded guys posted their BotW review, if anyone's interested. Sorry if this is a repost, but I figured we'd all seen enough opinions on emulation to shift topics. https://youtu.be/50LgwCJf4Ek
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Mar 30, 2017 16:10
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I'm gonna hack Android onto my Switch and download Dolphin for Android, then use an external DVD drive to play legit Wii games
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Mar 30, 2017 16:10
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Any idea what comes out today on the store in a hour?
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Mar 30, 2017 16:13
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I just broke my favorite zelda sword what do I do??
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Mar 30, 2017 16:13
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Rirse posted:Any idea what comes out today on the store in a hour? Only Has-been heroes in the US I think
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Mar 30, 2017 16:14
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Tijuana Bibliophile posted:I just broke my favorite zelda sword what do I do?? Use a stick.
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Mar 30, 2017 16:18
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Hamster needs to be dropping 3-5 games per week. My Neo Geo machine hungers.
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Takoluka posted:Emulation of a system that has been out for less than a month is pretty lovely, primarily because people aren't doing it for any reason other than to stick it to Nintendo somehow. Like, based on what I see online, there are people who want to spend literally hundreds of hours playing Nintendo exclusives while jacking themselves off to the thought that they didn't pay for any of them out of spite. Emulation of a system in 2017 is way less about randoms learning system infrastructure for homebrew and more about trying to get in on fandom discussion about how Breath of the Wild is just okay and not reeeeally worth $60 that they totally spent. Emulation as a concept is not a bad thing, but emulation as an execution is a piracy gateway for the extreme majority of people. When someone says they have an emulator, they're not saying "I have a PC program that simulates a system." They're saying "I downloaded Wind Waker and modded it with Dolphin, so I don't have to buy the HD one." There isn't a Switch emulator, WTF are you on about? And GC Windwaker on Dolphin is inferior to the Wii U release. However, many emulators these days either exceed what hardware can do, or in the case of stuff like BSNES, replicate it perfectly. If you want a game, buy it. If it came out before you were born and no retail market exists, pirate it. How loving hard is that?
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Mar 30, 2017 16:21
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people who are super anti-piracy are weirdos
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Mar 30, 2017 16:20
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If emulating on pc is posible why doesn't nintendo just do that themselves? Best way to combat piracy is to make going legit more convenient.
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Mar 30, 2017 16:22
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Avalerion posted:If emulating on pc is posible why doesn't nintendo just do that themselves? Best way to combat piracy is to make going legit more convinient.
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Mar 30, 2017 16:25
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There won't be a Switch emulator for quite some time. The Wii U emulator is very advanced because the Wii / GC / Wii U family is fairly closely related. Switch is a different beast so it'll be different. Torrenting games to play without paying is uncool, but it is important that emulators are produced to make sure that games are archived. Abandonware is kinda a grey area. Sometimes I think it's OK as it's victimless, sometimes I feel like people try to take advantage of the greyness. What happened with early cinema (Lost Films) was a tragedy. Something like 80% of of pre WWII films are lost. In the age of digital storage and emulation this shouldn't be allowed to happen. I've posted a couple times in this thread about modified emulations of Zelda titles - it's a fascinating topic.
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Mar 30, 2017 16:27
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Chef De Cuisinart posted:There isn't a Switch emulator, WTF are you on about? I was addressing the entire idea of a Switch emulator. I know Cemu makes a Wii U emulator, but you know, people had literally years to buy one (and can still in a lot of ways!), so I think my argument still stands.
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Mar 30, 2017 16:31
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StabMasterArson posted:people who are super anti-piracy are weirdos And generally pirates.
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Mar 30, 2017 16:31
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Rirse posted:Any idea what comes out today on the store in a hour? All We're getting is Metal Slug 1, since we already got Has Been Heroes & Snake Pass on Tuesday.
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Mar 30, 2017 16:35
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Did anyone actually get HBH? Reviews have been pretty bad and nobody seems to be talking about it.
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Mar 30, 2017 16:37
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StabMasterArson posted:people who are super anti-piracy are weirdos My fav is when people are super anti-piracy even for out of print games and act like buying a copy used isn't the exact same thing as piracy at that point. well why not posted:There won't be a Switch emulator for quite some time. The Wii U emulator is very advanced because the Wii / GC / Wii U family is fairly closely related. Switch is a different beast so it'll be different. It's different, but it's also really normal off the shelf stuff this time around. Even if emulators are way off, it wouldn't surprise me to see "cracked" games modified and repackaged to run on non-Nintendo hardware.
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Takoluka posted:Emulation of a system that has been out for less than a month is pretty lovely, primarily because people aren't doing it for any reason other than to stick it to Nintendo somehow. Like, based on what I see online, there are people who want to spend literally hundreds of hours playing Nintendo exclusives while jacking themselves off to the thought that they didn't pay for any of them out of spite. Emulation of a system in 2017 is way less about randoms learning system infrastructure for homebrew and more about trying to get in on fandom discussion about how Breath of the Wild is just okay and not reeeeally worth $60 that they totally spent. Emulation as a concept is not a bad thing, but emulation as an execution is a piracy gateway for the extreme majority of people. When someone says they have an emulator, they're not saying "I have a PC program that simulates a system." They're saying "I downloaded Wind Waker and modded it with Dolphin, so I don't have to buy the HD one." The Nintendo Masturbation System
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A FUCKIN CANARY!! posted:My fav is when people are super anti-piracy even for out of print games and act like buying a copy used isn't the exact same thing as piracy at that point. gotta be invested in my $600 copy of Hagane where the money went to a reseller or else what was it all for?! (nothing)
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A FUCKIN CANARY!! posted:My fav is when people are super anti-piracy even for out of print games and act like buying a copy used isn't the exact same thing as piracy at that point. GameStop deserves $80 for Xenoblade Chronicles!!!!! bef posted:The Nintendo Masturbation System R.U.B.
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Takoluka posted:I was addressing the entire idea of a Switch emulator. I know Cemu makes a Wii U emulator, but you know, people had literally years to buy one (and can still in a lot of ways!), so I think my argument still stands. No it doesn't. You may as well argue that archival of any type is wrong. I have a Wii U. I have a Switch. I look forward to playing Breath of the Wild on my PC in 4k at 60fps or whatever cemu supports. I paid for it, it's mine. If I can't pay for it, I'll copy it from someone else.
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A FUCKIN CANARY!! posted:My fav is when people are super anti-piracy even for out of print games and act like buying a copy used isn't the exact same thing as piracy at that point. Pirating something like Mother 3 that you can't get anywhere else, go for it. Pirating something like Super Mario World where you can get it in 5 minutes on pretty much any platform, come on.
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Chef De Cuisinart posted:No it doesn't. You may as well argue that archival of any type is wrong. I have a Wii U. I have a Switch. I look forward to playing Breath of the Wild on my PC in 4k at 60fps or whatever cemu supports. I paid for it, it's mine. If I can't pay for it, I'll copy it from someone else. "Archiving a thing" and "archiving and distributing a thing for free when it is still actively, readily, and easily available for sale from its original distributor" are not the same thing. You are right, though. People deserve to be entertained, regardless of the means. If you can't afford something, you can just make a copy from someone that did.
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Nephzinho posted:Did anyone actually get HBH? Reviews have been pretty bad and nobody seems to be talking about it. Apparently it relies extremely on RNG so and difficulty spikes pretty frequently? That's what Ive come to understand anyhow.
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Takoluka posted:are you advocating for companies to make money on products they create Well yea, but companies have to be creative and competitive. The effects of piracy on the gaming industry's bottom line has been completely mitigated by competitive pricing, ease of access, reliability, DLC, online play, loyalty services, help & support — they make their products attractive to people who just want a game without the hassle, and also have the best experience with it. Attempting to convince pirates that what they do is some kind of ethical dilemma will only result in laughs over this 18 year-old debate
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Rirse posted:Any idea what comes out today on the store in a hour?
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There's "super anti piracy" and there's "acknowledging that pirating something that is still available at retail is stealing business from the creators". You can just pirate poo poo, you don't need to jump through hoops to prove that actually it's good to pirate and the people who don't are the real problem.
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i think you are all mistaken thread, rare's pirate game is coming on xbone not switch
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Mar 30, 2017 16:53
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Nephzinho posted:Pirating something like Mother 3 that you can't get anywhere else, go for it. Yeah you should buy the exact same game 150 times because reasons.
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Mar 30, 2017 16:58
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Jonas Albrecht posted:I'm ready for Mario Kart. Does anyone want to play Mario Kart next Month? Your rooftop or mine?
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Mar 30, 2017 17:01
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I think SMW on VC is a different product SNES version which came out in 1990. It's an interesting question - if I buy say, some headphones and the company releases a new, but very similar, pair, do I receive an additional set in the mail? Absolutely not. I think VC prices for NES/SNES titles are stupidly high, but I don't think I'm entitled to a free VC version because I owned SMB3 as a kid.
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Mar 30, 2017 17:02
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No, see you can't watch Pirates of the Caribbean on your Switch yet because Netflix has yet to launch.
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Bombadilillo posted:What a convenient (for you) stance to take. "It doesn't hurt them and they don't care" Very convenient. people will pirate, its a given. you can take a few different stances, the major ones being: deep sales and discounts and competitive pricing. this one is obviously what steam does and sony as well and it tempts would be pirates into buying in instead through ease of use and lower prices after release. the other big one is instead to hold the value of your games up instead, which means you will make more revenue per individual sale but will naturally push away more people than deep discounts. this one is what nintendo does and it also does really well. its just a different strategy, neither is better or worse as both seem to work. and its not not caring or whatever else, its just recognition that people will pirate stuff. you can either combat that by making things cheaper, as the main reason people pirate IS economical, or by keeping your product's value higher to offset it.
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and i mean really the real revenue loss in console games is used games anyway. console based piracy is barely a drop in the bucket in comparison to used sales, but i dont think anyone here would defend or be pro the ridiculous DRM schemes that would stop that.
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Stux posted:people will pirate, its a given. you can take a few different stances, the major ones being: deep sales and discounts and competitive pricing. this one is obviously what steam does and sony as well and it tempts would be pirates into buying in instead through ease of use and lower prices after release. the other big one is instead to hold the value of your games up instead, which means you will make more revenue per individual sale but will naturally push away more people than deep discounts. this one is what nintendo does and it also does really well. The convenient part is you saying "If they don't use this strategy I guess they don't care about it, and if they don't care..."
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My suggestion to all the people in the Switch thread screaming about the lack of One Piece Pirate Warriors on the Switch is to try the demo for Dragon Quest Heroes 1+2 that's currently on the JP eshop.
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Pirate if you want to but stop loving justifying it and just do it, pussies.
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