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Malloc Voidstar
May 7, 2007

Fuck the cowboys. Unf. Fuck em hard.
they're smart enough to preload the openvpn key at least; i was mostly laughing at openvpn forgetting to renew an ssl cert

(i think there's a theoretical attack where a mitm between an http repo will feed you old data so you never see an update is available, but i don't know of any other attacks)

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Truga
May 4, 2014
Lipstick Apathy
well, this is great. getting root on smart tvs with dvb-t broadcasts:
dvb contains zero security, since it was supposed to be unidirectional and just used for tv broadcasts. since it's a broadcast, just do some driving, homemade junk overpowers the official broadcasts you won. this is super easy since the antenna is probably 10s of km away, your signal is preferred. equipment costs like $100.

use hbbtv to start your tv's browser, and then own it since it's a piece of poo poo. hbbtv is hybrid broadcast tv, it's a standard for using the internet during broadcasts for ~better content~ or whatever: https://www.hbbtv.org/overview/

this all happens in the background cause you can make the browser invisible to enable layering stuff over the video - the user never knows even if you're owning his poo poo while they're watching tv

guy says like 90% smart tvs on the market right now are vulnerable :rip:
full presentation, takes a while to get going since there's an intro about iot in general: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOJ_8QHX6OA

also they haven't tested, but there's no reason this won't work over cable or iptv too

the s in dvb stands for security

yoloer420
May 19, 2006
That was done some time ago: https://www.cs.columbia.edu/~angelos/Papers/2014/redbutton-usenix-sec14.pdf

Cocoa Crispies
Jul 20, 2001

Vehicular Manslaughter!

Pillbug

Truga posted:

well, this is great. getting root on smart tvs with dvb-t broadcasts:
dvb contains zero security, since it was supposed to be unidirectional and just used for tv broadcasts. since it's a broadcast, just do some driving, homemade junk overpowers the official broadcasts you won. this is super easy since the antenna is probably 10s of km away, your signal is preferred. equipment costs like $100.

use hbbtv to start your tv's browser, and then own it since it's a piece of poo poo. hbbtv is hybrid broadcast tv, it's a standard for using the internet during broadcasts for ~better content~ or whatever: https://www.hbbtv.org/overview/

this all happens in the background cause you can make the browser invisible to enable layering stuff over the video - the user never knows even if you're owning his poo poo while they're watching tv

guy says like 90% smart tvs on the market right now are vulnerable :rip:
full presentation, takes a while to get going since there's an intro about iot in general: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOJ_8QHX6OA

also they haven't tested, but there's no reason this won't work over cable or iptv too

the s in dvb stands for security

at least in the US, the mitigating factor is that broadcast (which is ATSC and not DVB-T but w/e) is a rounding error (it's weirdos like me who dig out the rabbit ears to ve fútbol en univision), and that everyone else has a cable company provided dvr between the outside of the house and the tv

but lol, that's amazing anyways

A Pinball Wizard
Mar 23, 2005

I know every trick, no freak's gonna beat my hands

College Slice

Cocoa Crispies posted:

at least in the US, the mitigating factor is that broadcast (which is ATSC and not DVB-T but w/e) is a rounding error (it's weirdos like me who dig out the rabbit ears to ve fútbol en univision), and that everyone else has a cable company provided dvr between the outside of the house and the tv

but lol, that's amazing anyways

Eh cord cutting is getting popular esp if you live near a major city, I get about 20 watchable channels (out of 75 I can tune in lol) with a $20 VHF indoor antenna from an hour outside Chicago and just use streaming for everything else

minivanmegafun
Jul 27, 2004

A Pinball Wizard posted:

Eh cord cutting is getting popular esp if you live near a major city, I get about 20 watchable channels (out of 75 I can tune in lol) with a $20 VHF indoor antenna from an hour outside Chicago and just use streaming for everything else

i can see the Sears Tower from my back yard; I can pick up WBBM (CBS) and WTTW (PBS) without even hooking up anything to the F-jack on the back of my TV.

flakeloaf
Feb 26, 2003

Still better than android clock

minivanmegafun posted:

I can pick up WBBM without even hooking up anything to the F-jack

text me

surebet
Jan 10, 2013

avatar
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*groan* i'm having issues with cert issuance for a jira instance running on tomcat & windows server

my desired end result is a java key store file containing my crap

most tutorials or utilities expect linux or at least iis

to add insult to injury, i'm pretty much only able to do a manual validation via dns since letsencrypt can't see my well-known file via http (it 403s) despite it being available and visible

i did end up being able to pull down a cert via acmesharp but i wasn't able to package the crt file into a jks (via portecle) because it didn't know how to injest the crs pem i creted earlier

how the hell do i do this? i have the previously mentioned stuff on the server and i also have a linux vm

spankmeister
Jun 15, 2008






reverse proxy the tomcat instance and put the cert in the real web server instead of that java trash.

minivanmegafun
Jul 27, 2004

spankmeister posted:

reverse proxy the tomcat instance and put the cert in the real web server instead of that java trash.

this. gently caress keytool and gently caress tomcat's http server

though since you're on widows you'll probably still need the http server for a reverse proxy as I don't think IIS speaks AJP.

e: if you were running tomcat as a production web server on Linux exposed to the internet you'd still do this because otherwise you'd be running tomcat as root to grab port 443 :nono:

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

surebet posted:

*groan* i'm having issues with cert issuance for a jira instance running on tomcat & windows server

my desired end result is a java key store file containing my crap

most tutorials or utilities expect linux or at least iis

to add insult to injury, i'm pretty much only able to do a manual validation via dns since letsencrypt can't see my well-known file via http (it 403s) despite it being available and visible

i did end up being able to pull down a cert via acmesharp but i wasn't able to package the crt file into a jks (via portecle) because it didn't know how to injest the crs pem i creted earlier

how the hell do i do this? i have the previously mentioned stuff on the server and i also have a linux vm

the "official" way Java added support for this stupid poo poo is to use openssl to convert everything to a p12, then use keytool to convert the p12 to a keystore

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

i actually did this on Tuesday and was all "lol they still haven't fixed keystores in the 5 years since i last cared about keystores nice"

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006

surebet posted:

*groan* i'm having issues with cert issuance for a jira instance running on tomcat & windows server

my desired end result is a java key store file containing my crap

most tutorials or utilities expect linux or at least iis

to add insult to injury, i'm pretty much only able to do a manual validation via dns since letsencrypt can't see my well-known file via http (it 403s) despite it being available and visible

i did end up being able to pull down a cert via acmesharp but i wasn't able to package the crt file into a jks (via portecle) because it didn't know how to injest the crs pem i creted earlier

how the hell do i do this? i have the previously mentioned stuff on the server and i also have a linux vm

use keytool to import the cert/key and chain into a java keystore and then configure tomcat for this. just about every SSL vendor has instructions on how to do this.

Alternatively install the cert in IIS and use IIS as a reverse proxy for Jira.

e: how to do ssl in tomcat: https://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-7.0-doc/ssl-howto.html

Shaggar fucked around with this message at 14:59 on Mar 30, 2017

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006

minivanmegafun posted:

this. gently caress keytool and gently caress tomcat's http server

though since you're on widows you'll probably still need the http server for a reverse proxy as I don't think IIS speaks AJP.

e: if you were running tomcat as a production web server on Linux exposed to the internet you'd still do this because otherwise you'd be running tomcat as root to grab port 443 :nono:

there is a jk connector for IIS but reverse proxying has been more common for a while now.

fishmech
Jul 16, 2006

by VideoGames
Salad Prong

Truga posted:

well, this is great. getting root on smart tvs with dvb-t broadcasts:
dvb contains zero security, since it was supposed to be unidirectional and just used for tv broadcasts. since it's a broadcast, just do some driving, homemade junk overpowers the official broadcasts you won. this is super easy since the antenna is probably 10s of km away, your signal is preferred. equipment costs like $100.

use hbbtv to start your tv's browser, and then own it since it's a piece of poo poo. hbbtv is hybrid broadcast tv, it's a standard for using the internet during broadcasts for ~better content~ or whatever: https://www.hbbtv.org/overview/

this all happens in the background cause you can make the browser invisible to enable layering stuff over the video - the user never knows even if you're owning his poo poo while they're watching tv

guy says like 90% smart tvs on the market right now are vulnerable :rip:
full presentation, takes a while to get going since there's an intro about iot in general: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOJ_8QHX6OA

also they haven't tested, but there's no reason this won't work over cable or iptv too

the s in dvb stands for security

huh, looks like no current or planned implementation of ATSC supports this non-AV digital data stuff beyond captioning and broadcast guide type stuff.

i wonder how many ATSC market TVs have DVB support implemented anyway, and can have a DVB signal forced onto a normal ATSC channel to do the exploit

akadajet
Sep 14, 2003

Cocoa Crispies posted:

what's on the other end, and do you trust them?

i like to vpn home from public wifi and i do trust my home network but not necessarily my home upstream, wah wah

they have cute bear illustrations all over their website and app, so they can't be that bad

or maybe they're russians?

Dex
May 26, 2006

Quintuple x!!!

Would not escrow again.

VERY MISLEADING!

surebet posted:

*groan* i'm having issues with cert issuance for a jira instance running on tomcat & windows server

my desired end result is a java key store file containing my crap

most tutorials or utilities expect linux or at least iis

to add insult to injury, i'm pretty much only able to do a manual validation via dns since letsencrypt can't see my well-known file via http (it 403s) despite it being available and visible

i did end up being able to pull down a cert via acmesharp but i wasn't able to package the crt file into a jks (via portecle) because it didn't know how to injest the crs pem i creted earlier

how the hell do i do this? i have the previously mentioned stuff on the server and i also have a linux vm

greetings, i'm the jira admin for my dept - echoing the others, gently caress the jdk keystore and throw apache or nginx in front of it instead

cinci zoo sniper
Mar 15, 2013




https://blog.malwarebytes.com/cybercrime/2017/03/websites-compromised-decimal-ip-campaign/

302 redirect attack with ip literals

Lutha Mahtin
Oct 10, 2010

Your brokebrain sin is absolved...go and shitpost no more!

fishmech posted:

i wonder how many ATSC market TVs have DVB support implemented anyway, and can have a DVB signal forced onto a normal ATSC channel to do the exploit

what does your heart tell you

fishmech
Jul 16, 2006

by VideoGames
Salad Prong

Lutha Mahtin posted:

what does your heart tell you

that very few bother to have DVB support because of licensing fees/complexity, and the relative distance between ATSC and DVB using countries?

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Lutha Mahtin
Oct 10, 2010

Your brokebrain sin is absolved...go and shitpost no more!

my intuition was that tvs were designed with lowest-bidder support for all major broadcast standards in order to sell the same tv worldwide. it's not something i read up on though, i just based it on helping family members set up their tvs and seeing mention of DVB things in manuals and on-screen UI stuff

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006
if it saves a few bucks per tv sold in north America they're gonna do it. if its software that's ez pz. if its hardware idk how much more expensive it would be to not slot the dvb processor on the same board.

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006
like I wouldn't put it past Samsung to leave DVB support in the software after pulling the processor off the board.

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006

fishmech posted:

huh, looks like no current or planned implementation of ATSC supports this non-AV digital data stuff beyond captioning and broadcast guide type stuff.

i wonder how many ATSC market TVs have DVB support implemented anyway, and can have a DVB signal forced onto a normal ATSC channel to do the exploit

an exploit in a caption parser would be pretty cool.

fishmech
Jul 16, 2006

by VideoGames
Salad Prong
If you want to support all the digital TV standards in current use you've got to support like 3 different video codecs at multiple profiles, multiple different channel widths, and all sorts of crap like that.

easily doable if you put a powerful CPU in your TV and did it all in software, but getting a specialized chip just to do the target standard is probably a lot cheaper and easier

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

Lutha Mahtin posted:

my intuition was that tvs were designed with lowest-bidder support for all major broadcast standards in order to sell the same tv worldwide. it's not something i read up on though, i just based it on helping family members set up their tvs and seeing mention of DVB things in manuals and on-screen UI stuff

i know tv tuner cards work this way at least, or all the ones i've used (including the super cheap ones). i guess they could be implementing that in software though...

spankmeister
Jun 15, 2008






since SDR became commonplace most of the stuff is done in software

Powerful Two-Hander
Mar 10, 2004

Mods please change my name to "Tooter Skeleton" TIA.


i just bought a samsung smart tv and while i have to say the integration for netflix etc. is really good and the picture is excellent, they make you sign up to a shitload of 'privacy t&cs' without making it clear what they're for or in fact that you can decline and just not use that feature

so now when i press the 'voice command' button on the remote it goes 'error: you have not agreed to the privacy conditions' lol

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006
that's actually pretty cool cause they could have just disabled everything out of spite instead of just the things that require external processing.

Wiggly Wayne DDS
Sep 11, 2010



p good demo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPZmiRi_c-o

paper: https://cmaurice.fr/pdf/ndss17_maurice.pdf

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006

lol that's great

Asshole Masonanie
Oct 27, 2009

by vyelkin

holy poo poo

Dex
May 26, 2006

Quintuple x!!!

Would not escrow again.

VERY MISLEADING!

ahahaha

Kuvo
Oct 27, 2008

Blame it on the misfortune of your bark!
Fun Shoe

:wow:

vOv
Feb 8, 2014


holy lol

flakeloaf
Feb 26, 2003

Still better than android clock

that's a pretty great thing, wonder if i can start a kerfuffle with it

let's find out

akadajet
Sep 14, 2003


I'm crying

ultramiraculous
Nov 12, 2003

"No..."
Grimey Drawer

holy lol

ultramiraculous
Nov 12, 2003

"No..."
Grimey Drawer

akadajet posted:

I'm crying

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hifi
Jul 25, 2012

hifi posted:

algo works but it's dropping my connection when it's re-upping. i can see the encryption mismatch and windows isn't requesting DES like the original windows bug was but i assume i'm not supposed to change it. there's a "maximum encryption" knob i can hit but i sort of doubt that's whats wrong. easy enough to work though and i imagine it's idiot proof if you are using a linux client and are already using digitalocean/aws/compute engine/azure

final update for now: i filed a bug and it got closed instantly with a "rtfm" response. i tried regenerating the ipsec.conf file and triple checked i picked the windows option and it's still disconnecting after fifteen minutes or so with the same "client and server can't agree on a cipher" error message. i suspect the guy who closed my bug didn't read it at all.

the instructions for the windows client are sort of stupid, it tells you to add the certificate and run a powershell script and then configure the vpn, but the powershell script does all that (i checked, if you only do parts of it then it flat out won't connect). not to mention that there's a newline in another powershell command embedded in the readme so if you copy and paste it from github then you end up with -setwhatevercipher butt25612 8 which obviously throws a syntax error.

i don't run a github project so idk if it stops sending emails for a closed issue but the alternative is join their slack and i actually clicked on that but i decided to go make lunch instead because gently caress joining some stupid millennial chatroom to one-off bitch about something. if you try it and it disconnects after a half hour then feel free to find my bug and give it a suitable emoji (you can do that on github now)

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