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Luceo
Apr 29, 2003

As predicted in the Bible. :cheers:



Anyone else run pidgin on mac through homebrew? I installed 10.12.4 today and it seems to have removed Pidgin's ability to resolve DNS , based on what I'm seeing in the debug output.

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Dec 22, 2006


Seriously? Is that a No because you know for sure, or because you have never heard of something like this happening?

I can't believe that there is no way to boot-up to terminal every time and then start X as an option.

Proteus Jones
Feb 28, 2013



lemonslol posted:

Seriously? Is that a No because you know for sure, or because you have never heard of something like this happening?

I can't believe that there is no way to boot-up to terminal every time and then start X as an option.

Refuse to believe it all you want. There is no way to do that with macOS. If that's important to you, then you'll want to look at installing Linux on your hardware.

And I'm not sure what you mean by "X". There is no x-windows.

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

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Anybody else having trouble with audio stuttering on USB headphones after upgrading to 10.12.4?

I just confirmed it's behaving the same on two different Macs. Logitech H340 fwiw.

It's just BA-BA-BA-BE-BE-BE-BE-BUH-BUH-BUH-BUH. Totally unusable.

Non-USB headphones or regular speakers are fine.

vkeios
May 7, 2007




lemonslol posted:

I can't believe that there is no way to boot-up to terminal every time and then start X as an option.
You might be able to still login in as ">console", but otherwise I can't think of anything (SU mode is not ideal), also it might be a pain in the rear end to start up Aqua.

Honestly just have terminal launch on login.

robodex
Jun 6, 2007

They're what's for dinner
Before I try a reformat/restore, anyone else had graphical corruption on 10.12.4? It's not major but sometimes I'll notice small UI glitches that go away after a second or two. 2015 rMBP.

gay for gacha
Dec 22, 2006

vkeios posted:

You might be able to still login in as ">console", but otherwise I can't think of anything (SU mode is not ideal), also it might be a pain in the rear end to start up Aqua.

Honestly just have terminal launch on login.

I do all of my work only on the command line. Even things like browsing the internet and especially things like email or writing documents. I was given this laptop at work and told to deal with it and explicitly told not to install linux. I guess there is no way though. Thanks for the help goons.

Quantum of Phallus
Dec 27, 2010

lemonslol posted:

I do all of my work only on the command line. Even things like browsing the internet

what the gently caress

tuyop
Sep 15, 2006

Every second that we're not growing BASIL is a second wasted

Fun Shoe

lemonslol posted:

I do all of my work only on the command line. Even things like browsing the internet and especially things like email or writing documents. I was given this laptop at work and told to deal with it and explicitly told not to install linux. I guess there is no way though. Thanks for the help goons.

Just set terminal to start on login. You don't have to use the GUI if you don't want.

How are you reading the forums? Where do you get porn and how?

Theophany
Jul 22, 2014

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Quantum of Phallus posted:

what the gently caress

It's literally what all the edgelords in my high school computer club did after building Gentoo distros on the fly got old. And this was, what, 2006?

I totally get that sometimes is necessity, but the dude's IT department is retarded if they're not giving you *nix for that.

some kinda jackal
Feb 25, 2003

 
 
If I have a MBP which is joined to an AD domain, and my account on the MBP is both administrative AND mobile, when I'm forced by policy to change my password is my filevault password going to change as well? Or am I going to have to remember which of my AD passwords I used when I set up the MBP initially.

Not sure how this works for AD joined Macs, and since I just got this MBP this is my first go-around on the mobile account ride.

Last Chance
Dec 31, 2004

Martytoof posted:

If I have a MBP which is joined to an AD domain, and my account on the MBP is both administrative AND mobile, when I'm forced by policy to change my password is my filevault password going to change as well? Or am I going to have to remember which of my AD passwords I used when I set up the MBP initially.

Not sure how this works for AD joined Macs, and since I just got this MBP this is my first go-around on the mobile account ride.

If FileVault passwords work anything like Keychain passwords, then you'll either have to remember your old password or change it again every time you're forced to change your AD password. Pain in the rear end, but I don't know any way around it.

eddiewalker
Apr 28, 2004

Arrrr ye landlubber
I have two accounts on my laptop. There's a few apps, the simple kind installed by dragging from a DMG to the Apps folder, that will only run on the account that installed them. Those apps appear on the other account, but they look like this:

Is there a fix?

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AlternateAccount
Apr 25, 2005
FYGM

lemonslol posted:

I do all of my work only on the command line. Even things like browsing the internet and especially things like email or writing documents. I was given this laptop at work and told to deal with it and explicitly told not to install linux. I guess there is no way though. Thanks for the help goons.

That ain't no way for a grown man to do his business.

Literally the only iPhone app I have ever cobbled together was one to play the sound from this, for when I hear things like that nonsense. Probably my most used app:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_CIYR_XgBSY

GutBomb
Jun 15, 2005

Dude?

AlternateAccount posted:

That ain't no way for a grown man to do his business.

Literally the only iPhone app I have ever cobbled together was one to play the sound from this, for when I hear things like that nonsense. Probably my most used app:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_CIYR_XgBSY

You see the irony in using a development IDE to write and compile code into an application that runs on a computer you carry around in your pocket to mock nerds right?

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

eddiewalker posted:

I have two accounts on my laptop. There's a few apps, the simple kind installed by dragging from a DMG to the Apps folder, that will only run on the account that installed them. Those apps appear on the other account, but they look like this:

Is there a fix?



I think this is part of 10.12’s app translocation protection.

If you drag it to your desktop and back (on the broken account), I think it will work.

eddiewalker
Apr 28, 2004

Arrrr ye landlubber

Platystemon posted:

I think this is part of 10.12’s app translocation protection.

If you drag it to your desktop and back (on the broken account), I think it will work.

No luck. Dragging it out just made an alias. I moved via the terminal and the X remained. I also did a chmod to 777, no fix.

Renaming the .app made the X go away, but the program produced a bunch of errors on start until I changed the name back.

I used to have this problem with several apps, but all the others seem to have fixed themselves. Maybe it's just some weird buggy quirk of Soundplant? Wouldn't be the first.

mllaneza
Apr 28, 2007

Veteran, Bermuda Triangle Expeditionary Force, 1993-1952




Last Chance posted:

If FileVault passwords work anything like Keychain passwords, then you'll either have to remember your old password or change it again every time you're forced to change your AD password. Pain in the rear end, but I don't know any way around it.

At work we have the JAMF suite for managing the Macs. All the FileVault 2 machines have a recovery key on record. That should integrate nicely with AD. I make no promises for 'easily'.

MrBond
Feb 19, 2004

FYI, Cheese NIPS are not the same as Cheez ITS

flosofl posted:

Refuse to believe it all you want. There is no way to do that with macOS. If that's important to you, then you'll want to look at installing Linux on your hardware.

And I'm not sure what you mean by "X". There is no x-windows.

There totally is. Open-sourced from the formerly official Apple one.

https://www.xquartz.org

If you want it to *replace* aqua/finder then no that won't work and you're in crazy town.

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

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Data Graham posted:

Anybody else having trouble with audio stuttering on USB headphones after upgrading to 10.12.4?

I just confirmed it's behaving the same on two different Macs. Logitech H340 fwiw.

It's just BA-BA-BA-BE-BE-BE-BE-BUH-BUH-BUH-BUH. Totally unusable.

Non-USB headphones or regular speakers are fine.

Seriously, nobody uses USB headphones? Is anybody able to verify this?

I filed a radar, but nobody's acknowledged it yet.

I don't know what's going on with Apple's QA lately; really trivial poo poo like how apparently nobody thought to test the iOS "TV" app (which now contains all your offline videos) if you have no network. Want to watch some videos on the plane? Tough, the app just pinwheels forever and then finally shows you the videos except the screens are full of placeholder labels like "EPISODE.LABEL". And then this.

Last Chance
Dec 31, 2004

Data Graham posted:

I don't know what's going on with Apple's QA lately; really trivial poo poo like how apparently nobody thought to test the iOS "TV" app (which now contains all your offline videos) if you have no network. Want to watch some videos on the plane? Tough, the app just pinwheels forever and then finally shows you the videos except the screens are full of placeholder labels like "EPISODE.LABEL". And then this.

works fine for me offline

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

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Well yeah, that's fixed since 10.3. Sucked two weeks ago though.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

eddiewalker posted:

No luck. Dragging it out just made an alias.

Oh yeah, you have to hold ⌘ to prevent that.

But this might just break it on the other account.

susan b buffering
Nov 14, 2016

Data Graham posted:

Seriously, nobody uses USB headphones? Is anybody able to verify this?

I filed a radar, but nobody's acknowledged it yet.

I don't know what's going on with Apple's QA lately; really trivial poo poo like how apparently nobody thought to test the iOS "TV" app (which now contains all your offline videos) if you have no network. Want to watch some videos on the plane? Tough, the app just pinwheels forever and then finally shows you the videos except the screens are full of placeholder labels like "EPISODE.LABEL". And then this.

I don't use USB headphones but I use a USB soundcard and have had no issues using it with the new update.

ohrwurm
Jun 25, 2003

Two things I'm noticing in 10.12.4:

1) The screensaver/lock screen become incredibly slow. It takes at least a minute for the login prompt to come up.

2) I can't use iMessage at all. It won't allow me to authenticate, only says "Error signing in"

Happening to anyone else?

AlternateAccount
Apr 25, 2005
FYGM

GutBomb posted:

You see the irony in using a development IDE to write and compile code into an application that runs on a computer you carry around in your pocket to mock nerds right?

Hahaha, indeed. My boss immediately pointed that out.

qutius
Apr 2, 2003
NO PARTIES

Data Graham posted:

Anybody else having trouble with audio stuttering on USB headphones after upgrading to 10.12.4?

I just confirmed it's behaving the same on two different Macs. Logitech H340 fwiw.

It's just BA-BA-BA-BE-BE-BE-BE-BUH-BUH-BUH-BUH. Totally unusable.

Non-USB headphones or regular speakers are fine.

yup, happening here too. it loving sucks, because phone calls just got a lot more stupid. doesn't matter if I plug into the laptop directly, or via my powered usb 3 hub, can't do webex or facetime based calls.

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

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Cool, thanks; glad to know it's not just me.

Feels like chances are good someone at Apple will have noticed it too by this point..

Theophany
Jul 22, 2014

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Data Graham posted:

Seriously, nobody uses USB headphones? Is anybody able to verify this?

I filed a radar, but nobody's acknowledged it yet.

I don't know what's going on with Apple's QA lately; really trivial poo poo like how apparently nobody thought to test the iOS "TV" app (which now contains all your offline videos) if you have no network. Want to watch some videos on the plane? Tough, the app just pinwheels forever and then finally shows you the videos except the screens are full of placeholder labels like "EPISODE.LABEL". And then this.

My wireless USB Corsair headset is working fine* - Skype and FaceTime calls are perfect clarity. Plugged in via a USB 3.0 hub attached to a PCI USB 3.0 card on a 5,1 Mac Pro.


*And that is saying something given that Corsair's hardware is dogshit on MacOS.

Last Chance
Dec 31, 2004

My Logitech USB headset seems to work fine on my 2013 iMac

dexter6
Sep 22, 2003
My dad can't keep from installing malware-ish extensions in chrome. Is there an easy way I can lock down extensions so he can't install new ones, and so that he can't disable AdBlock? If I could do this, I'd likely never have to do tech support for him again.

IUG
Jul 14, 2007


Lock the folder/permissions of ~/Users/Application Support/Google/Chrome/Default/Extensions/ maybe?

dexter6
Sep 22, 2003

IUG posted:

Lock the folder/permissions of ~/Users/Application Support/Google/Chrome/Default/Extensions/ maybe?
That's a good thought, but how do I lock it? I assume terminal and the right command?

GutBomb
Jun 15, 2005

Dude?

dexter6 posted:

That's a good thought, but how do I lock it? I assume terminal and the right command?

While logged in as him get rid of the offending extensions and run the following from the terminal

code:

sudo chown -R root:root ~/Users/Application Support/Google/Chrome/Default/Extensions/

sudo chmod 644 ~/Users/Application Support/Google/Chrome/Default/Extensions/

Note: he won't be able to update the extensions anymore because his user won't have permission to write the updated files to the directory.

You'll need his password to execute those commands. You'll be prompted for it after entering the first one. To undo it you'll just change root:root in the first command to username:staff replacing username with whatever is username is.

Edit: yes as the guy below says switching him to safari is the better option

GutBomb fucked around with this message at 14:43 on Mar 31, 2017

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer
Make him use Safari.

dexter6
Sep 22, 2003

GutBomb posted:

While logged in as him get rid of the offending extensions and run the following from the terminal

code:
sudo chown -R root:root ~/Users/Application Support/Google/Chrome/Default/Extensions/

sudo chmod 644 ~/Users/Application Support/Google/Chrome/Default/Extensions/
Note: he won't be able to update the extensions anymore because his user won't have permission to write the updated files to the directory.

You'll need his password to execute those commands. You'll be prompted for it after entering the first one. To undo it you'll just change root:root in the first command to username:staff replacing username with whatever is username is.

Edit: yes as the guy below says switching him to safari is the better option
Thanks, I'll try this.

Krispy Kareem posted:

Make him use Safari.
and I'll also consider this. However I wanted him to use Chrome so that he could still play videos and whatnot without having to install flash or other plugins. I suppose that's becoming more and more rare.

emoji
Jun 4, 2004
Chrome doesn't have flash anymore. I've permanently lost access to videos on most news sites still somehow (rip lol)

Last Chance
Dec 31, 2004

emoji posted:

Chrome doesn't have flash anymore. I've permanently lost access to videos on most news sites still somehow (rip lol)

i think it's still around, you just have to manually turn it on

Pivo
Aug 20, 2004


Yeah Chrome definitely still has Flash, but I have the option enabled that requires user input to run a plugin, so I pretty much never see it. But I still see the option to run Flash if I want to sometimes.

The worst thing is that everyone's got all these auto-playing HTML5 videos now and they're a pain in the dick. And it's mostly on news websites. WHY do you think your video blurb is more important than your copy?

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Last Chance
Dec 31, 2004

Pivo posted:

The worst thing is that everyone's got all these auto-playing HTML5 videos now and they're a pain in the dick. And it's mostly on news websites. WHY do you think your video blurb is more important than your copy?

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