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Angry Grimace: Jul 29, 2010; ACTUALLY IT IS VERY GOOD THAT THE SHOW IS BAD AND ANYONE WHO DOESN'T REALIZE WHY THAT'S GOOD IS AN IDIOT. JUST ENJOY THE BAD SHOW INSTEAD OF THINKING.

Soul Glo posted:

Saw this earlier today and took a crack at Abzan, and here's what I came up with for an Aggro list:

4 Thraben Inspector
4 Winding Constrictor
4 Servant of the Conduit
3 Solemn Recruit
4 Tireless Tracker
3 Verdurous Gearhulk
3 Walking Ballista

4 Attune with Aether
4 Fatal Push
3 Gideon

4 Concealed Courtyard
4 Blooming Marsh
4 Aether Hub
6 Plains
5 Forest
1 Swamp

I'd run a 4th Gideon if I had a 4th. For a SB I could see Ruinous Path, To the Slaughter, Fragmentize.

I hosed with Solemn Recruit in a WB list last week and found it to be Good, and with the synergy of SR + snake + clues, could see it popping off and taking over a board before Ballista or Gearhulk show up.

I don't think Servant and Attune do enough in this beyond help you cast Gideon, and I'd probably just run some number of Anguished Unmaking. Sure, it sucks against aggro, but its generically good against most things you aren't expecting. I also think that 4 Push in a deck with 0 things to enable Push isn't right.

I mean, Gideon is generically powerful, but I don't think he's a good enough reason to run white in a deck that already plays huge creatures, and some of those creatures choices are weird when you can just play Rishkar.

Angry Grimace fucked around with this message at 08:14 on Mar 31, 2017

# ? Mar 31, 2017 08:11

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# ? Jun 3, 2024 22:51

Soul Glo: Aug 27, 2003; Just let it shine through

Angry Grimace posted:

I don't think Servant and Attune do enough in this beyond help you cast Gideon, and I'd probably just run some number of Anguished Unmaking. Sure, it sucks against aggro, but its generically good against most things you aren't expecting. I also think that 4 Push in a deck with 0 things to enable Push isn't right.

I mean, Gideon is generically powerful, but I don't think he's a good enough reason to run white in a deck that already plays huge creatures, and some of those creatures choices are weird when you can just play Rishkar.

Clues getting cracked enable Push (and Solemn Recruit), my dude. Anguished Unmaking would be in the SB for poo poo bigger than 4 cmc though.

Soul Glo fucked around with this message at 08:18 on Mar 31, 2017

# ? Mar 31, 2017 08:16

Rinkles: Oct 24, 2010; What I'm getting at is...
Do you feel the same way?

https://twitter.com/samstod/status/847689351760723970

Land cycle? (Cycling lands? :pray:

)

# ? Mar 31, 2017 08:50

Soul Glo: Aug 27, 2003; Just let it shine through

Rinkles posted:

https://twitter.com/samstod/status/847689351760723970

Land cycle? (Cycling lands? )

Fetchlands incoming :v:

# ? Mar 31, 2017 08:56

Mikujin: May 25, 2010; (also a lightning rod)

It's almost certainly the gods.

# ? Mar 31, 2017 09:04

Rinkles: Oct 24, 2010; What I'm getting at is...
Do you feel the same way?

Mikujin posted:

It's almost certainly the gods.

I think they'd want to tease them out one by one, but maybe.

# ? Mar 31, 2017 09:06

Siivola: Dec 23, 2012

It's a cycle of French Vanilla bears.

# ? Mar 31, 2017 09:16

Angry Grimace: Jul 29, 2010; ACTUALLY IT IS VERY GOOD THAT THE SHOW IS BAD AND ANYONE WHO DOESN'T REALIZE WHY THAT'S GOOD IS AN IDIOT. JUST ENJOY THE BAD SHOW INSTEAD OF THINKING.

Soul Glo posted:

Clues getting cracked enable Push (and Solemn Recruit), my dude. Anguished Unmaking would be in the SB for poo poo bigger than 4 cmc though.

I think that interaction is less powerful than you think it is.

Mikujin posted:

It's almost certainly the gods.

It's far more likely a cycle of dual lands.

# ? Mar 31, 2017 09:33

Barry Shitpeas: Dec 17, 2003; there is no need
to be upset

Winner POTM July 2013

They don't preview splashy cards in development articles, lands seems right

# ? Mar 31, 2017 10:43

Siivola: Dec 23, 2012

A cycle of five bad instant removal spells, but they're Traps in addition to being traps.

# ? Mar 31, 2017 10:46

BizarroAzrael: Apr 6, 2006; "That must weigh heavily on your soul. Let me purge it for you."

Siivola posted:

A cycle of five bad instant removal spells, but they're Traps in addition to being traps.

God, I fell for the white one so hard. So many flyers...

# ? Mar 31, 2017 11:00

STING 64: Oct 20, 2006

Fetchlands that you pay (1) for instead of 1 life.

# ? Mar 31, 2017 14:33

Hellsau: Jan 14, 2010; NEVER FUCKING TAKE A NIGHT OFF CLAN WARS.

its me glenda posted:

Fetchlands that you pay (1) for instead of 1 life.

Worse Panoramas?

# ? Mar 31, 2017 14:38

ThePeavstenator: Dec 18, 2012; Establish the Buns

Duals with basic land cycling for each type? i.e. UW has Plains and Island cycling.

e:

The cost could even be a hybrid cost to prevent easy splashing and 4-5 color mana bases being too easy to have. Pay (U/W), Discard this Card: Search up a Plains or Island.

ThePeavstenator fucked around with this message at 14:45 on Mar 31, 2017

# ? Mar 31, 2017 14:42

Skyl3lazer: Aug 27, 2007; [Dooting Stealthily]

ThePeavstenator posted:

Duals with basic land cycling for each type? i.e. UW has Plains and Island cycling.

This would be insanely good

# ? Mar 31, 2017 14:43

C-Euro: Mar 20, 2010; Soiled Meat

ThePeavstenator posted:

Duals with basic land cycling for each type? i.e. UW has Plains and Island cycling.

e:

The cost could even be a hybrid cost to prevent easy splashing and 4-5 color mana bases being too easy to have. Pay (U/W), Discard this Card: Search up a Plains or Island.

They'd have to bring back hybrid mana for the set as a whole, I don't think they'd do it just for one land cycle.

# ? Mar 31, 2017 14:52

STING 64: Oct 20, 2006

ThePeavstenator posted:

Duals with basic land cycling for each type? i.e. UW has Plains and Island cycling.

e:

The cost could even be a hybrid cost to prevent easy splashing and 4-5 color mana bases being too easy to have. Pay (U/W), Discard this Card: Search up a Plains or Island.

i really really like this

# ? Mar 31, 2017 14:55

uPen: Jan 25, 2010; Zu Rodina!

C-Euro posted:

They'd have to bring back hybrid mana for the set as a whole, I don't think they'd do it just for one land cycle.

Or just put 'W or U' as the cost

# ? Mar 31, 2017 15:02

STING 64: Oct 20, 2006

C-Euro posted:

They'd have to bring back hybrid mana for the set as a whole, I don't think they'd do it just for one land cycle.

they did it for the great khans cycle in Fate Reforged

# ? Mar 31, 2017 15:05

Devor: Nov 30, 2004; Lurking more.

ThePeavstenator posted:

Duals with basic land cycling for each type? i.e. UW has Plains and Island cycling.

e:

The cost could even be a hybrid cost to prevent easy splashing and 4-5 color mana bases being too easy to have. Pay (U/W), Discard this Card: Search up a Plains or Island.

U, Sac: Search and play a plains
W, Sac: Search and play a island
1, Sac: Search and play a plains or island tapped

# ? Mar 31, 2017 15:06

Fajita Queen: Jun 21, 2012

C-Euro posted:

They'd have to bring back hybrid mana for the set as a whole, I don't think they'd do it just for one land cycle.

They did it in ARB for two cycles, I don't see why they couldn't here.

Guildgates with <landtype> cycling would be a pretty nice dual cycle, especially if it doesn't specify basic so you can get Bofas.

# ? Mar 31, 2017 15:06

mandatory lesbian: Dec 18, 2012

C-Euro posted:

They'd have to bring back hybrid mana for the set as a whole, I don't think they'd do it just for one land cycle.

how soon we forget fate reforged

# ? Mar 31, 2017 15:06

TheChirurgeon: Aug 7, 2002; Remember how good you are; Taco Defender

I thought hybrid was basically evergreen. It's not really a mechanic.

# ? Mar 31, 2017 15:25

Count Bleck: Apr 5, 2010; DISPEL MAGIC!

I'm glad we're back in spoiler season.

# ? Mar 31, 2017 15:28

Alaan: May 24, 2005

It's kind of half a mechanic. If they have a flavorful reason they'll use it like Khans or ARB but probably wouldn't just shove it on a land cycle.

# ? Mar 31, 2017 15:32

En Fuego: Oct 8, 2004; The Reverend

Cycling Dual lands! Someone called it~

# ? Mar 31, 2017 15:33

C-Euro: Mar 20, 2010; Soiled Meat

Well poo poo, I whiffed on that one.

A dual that you can either bring into play tapped or turn into a basic of one of its two colors would be sweet. Since we're in fake Egypt I think they should finish out the River of Tears cycle but I'm in denial that they'll ever fill out any of those cycles besides the Grave Cairns one.

# ? Mar 31, 2017 15:35

DangerDongs: Nov 7, 2010; Grimey Drawer

Angry Grimace posted:

I don't think Servant and Attune do enough in this beyond help you cast Gideon, and I'd probably just run some number of Anguished Unmaking. Sure, it sucks against aggro, but its generically good against most things you aren't expecting. I also think that 4 Push in a deck with 0 things to enable Push isn't right.

I mean, Gideon is generically powerful, but I don't think he's a good enough reason to run white in a deck that already plays huge creatures, and some of those creatures choices are weird when you can just play Rishkar.

He is running too many lands with the 4 attunes if his highest cost is 5.

I've been enjoying Abzan, because Gideon really is that good, Sorin is a pet card, and Fumigate out of the board wrecks G/B. It plays like G/W tokens combined with Snakes.

# ? Mar 31, 2017 15:38