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Can't wait to see how the bicycle lands cause Life From The Loam, Splendid Reclamation, and possibly Amulet of Vigor to all shoot up in price a bit.
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Those lands are awesome. I loving love cycling.
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InterrupterJones posted:Can't wait to see how the bicycle lands cause Life From The Loam, Splendid Reclamation, and possibly Amulet of Vigor to all shoot up in price a bit. knight of the reliquary, too
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Mar 31, 2017 18:18
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These will make for some interesting play decisions. Example, if you have an opening hand with 2 basics and 1 cycle land, do you lead on the cycle to prevent tap issues as to curve out? Or lead on basics to keep the cycle option open if you flood out? What if you had 3 basics and a cycler? Etc.
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InterrupterJones posted:bicycle lands 
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Salvor_Hardin posted:These will make for some interesting play decisions. Example, if you have an opening hand with 2 basics and 1 cycle land, do you lead on the cycle to prevent tap issues as to curve out? Or lead on basics to keep the cycle option open if you flood out? It's mostly of similar utility and power as Temples in my opinion. Temples offer more utility in the early game because you get scry and the land, but Cyclelands offer a better topdeck and a small mana sink.
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I'm going to pretend the bicycle lands were untyped and uncommon and the change back to yearly rotations for Standard meant the enemy fetchland reprints were scrapped because that makes me feel better about things.
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ThePeavstenator posted:These new duals are cool and good, hopefully they fix the Cat/Vehicles problem with standard through bans or with the release of this set. I'd like to play some Grixis again. Luckily the vehicles problem gets fixed if cat gets banned. We will see decks like G/B delirium, running Ishkanahs put it in place or regular G/W tokens. The only other cards I could see them banning is Walking Ballista which is a dumb idea or Heart of Kiran, which I wouldn't mind.
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Mar 31, 2017 19:23
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Star Man posted:I'm going to pretend the bicycle lands were untyped and uncommon and the change back to yearly rotations for Standard meant the enemy fetchland reprints were scrapped because that makes me feel better about things. You guys are gonna try so hard to get bicycle lands to stick, and then will be all whiny and sad in the chat when Cedric calls them Cyclelands on camera. Hint: nobody cares about Lonely Sandbar. They're just gonna be "cyclelands" if they aren't just "plays an Irrigated Farmland" with no reference at all to the type in general.
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Mar 31, 2017 19:24
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Angry Grimace posted:You guys are gonna try so hard to get bicycle lands to stick, and then will be all whiny and sad in the chat when Cedric calls them Cyclelands on camera.  Look at this nerd, probably doesn't even call 'em Bofalands.
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Mar 31, 2017 19:28
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I'm not real big on cutesy nicknames but I will say that bicycle lands is at least better than tango lands was.
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Mar 31, 2017 19:29
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Angry Grimace posted:It's mostly of similar utility and power as Temples in my opinion. Temples offer more utility in the early game because you get scry and the land, but Cyclelands offer a better topdeck and a small mana sink. No these are more powerful by a sizable margin due to deck building and starting hand considerations. You could easily play 28 or more lands if 6-8 of them cycle and you can keep a 6 land hand, with 2 cycle lands where that would be an easy mulligan with scry lands. With the new mulligan rules turn one scry is also devalued a fair bit.
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Marketing New Brain posted:No these are more powerful by a sizable margin due to deck building and starting hand considerations. You could easily play 28 or more lands if 6-8 of them cycle and you can keep a 6 land hand, with 2 cycle lands where that would be an easy mulligan with scry lands. With the new mulligan rules turn one scry is also devalued a fair bit. On the reverse side the Temples let you play less land overall. Ivan Floch's UW Control deck that won PT M15 was as draw-go as it gets and ran 26 (granted, part of this was Dissolve, which is why I've previously remarked that Dissolve is quite a bit better than the other 3 mana counters). If you were playing other land types you'd be looking at more like 28 or even 29. Angry Grimace fucked around with this message at 20:09 on Mar 31, 2017 |
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I remember playing like 22 in my aggro Gruul deck back then. Fun times. I really ought to tweak that deck for fun times at a modern fnm.
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  Non-promo Glorybringer looks so baller.
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Marketing New Brain posted:No these are more powerful by a sizable margin due to deck building and starting hand considerations. You could easily play 28 or more lands if 6-8 of them cycle and you can keep a 6 land hand, with 2 cycle lands where that would be an easy mulligan with scry lands. With the new mulligan rules turn one scry is also devalued a fair bit. If you keep a 6 land hand with 2 cycle lands, I will consider that a free victory. They don't cycle for free; you are suggesting that you will spend at least two turns between turn 1 and 4 doing nothing but drawing a card with no actual gameplan. I am 100% okay playing into that. You may be able to play like 1 extra land in a control deck, if such a deck exists, but for the most part these are a bigger boon to aggro decks that want to get to their actual threats after they've hit 4 lands.
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So Always Watching and Exert are going to be legal together, right? Exerting something doesn't tap it, just causes it to not untap?
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Balon posted:So Always Watching and Exert are going to be legal together, right? Exerting something doesn't tap it, just causes it to not untap?
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Angry Grimace posted:You guys are gonna try so hard to get bicycle lands to stick, and then will be all whiny and sad in the chat when Cedric calls them Cyclelands on camera. you are the gooniest mother fucker in this thread, and this thread has sickening and mcmagic in it
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Johnny Five-Jaces posted:you are the gooniest mother fucker in this thread, and this thread has sickening and mcmagic in it Look fucker, I don't know who you think you are but you leave sickening alone Angry Grimace fucked around with this message at 21:34 on Mar 31, 2017 |
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Johnny Five-Jaces posted:you are the gooniest mother fucker in this thread, and this thread has sickening and mcmagic in it *cough*
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suicidesteve posted:*cough* *also raises paw*
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Shadow225 posted:If you keep a 6 land hand with 2 cycle lands, I will consider that a free victory. They don't cycle for free; you are suggesting that you will spend at least two turns between turn 1 and 4 doing nothing but drawing a card with no actual gameplan. I am 100% okay playing into that. You may be able to play like 1 extra land in a control deck, if such a deck exists, but for the most part these are a bigger boon to aggro decks that want to get to their actual threats after they've hit 4 lands. We don't even know what the format will look like yet, but 6 lands, 2 of which cycle, and Fatal Push looks very different than 6 lands, 2 of which Scry, and Fatal Push. I'm not saying aggro decks won't run a few of these, because I have no idea, but they will definitely not be running many of them, they never want a lot of lands that come into play tapped, they're more suited to control and grindy midrange decks. If embalm gets printed on enough good creatures I'm expecting standard to be grindy as hell, especially if the dumb Cat eats a ban.
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Gp buylist prices for the reprinted cards in mm17 are interesting. 70 bucks for goyf. 35-40 for tarn. If anyone finds a vendor that is selling ultimate guard sidewinders let me know. Also this venue is really nice and kicks the poo poo out of a lot other venues.
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loving April Fools man https://twitter.com/SaffronOlive/status/847923253964394497
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pr0digal posted:loving April Fools man way too good to be real
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pr0digal posted:loving April Fools man lol, how did he fall for that rushjob?
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Rinkles posted:lol, how did he fall for that rushjob? I dunno, after the Invocations this looks pretty spot on.
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Finally,a use for Tibalt
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Rinkles posted:lol, how did he fall for that rushjob? well, i have a feeling he made it so
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oh my god nevermind i read his tweets after it, holy crap i don't want to call him dumb but c'mon now
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mandatory lesbian posted:oh my god nevermind i read his tweets after it, holy crap i don't want to call him dumb but c'mon now He's really easy to troll with fakes
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Hooray point #1: Cycling duals! Hooray point #2: They're typed! Boo point #1: Why the ever-loving gently caress are they allied colors?! We already have goofy ally-colored typed duals two blocks ago!
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AlternateNu posted:Hooray point #1: Cycling duals! We got goofy enemy-colored duals last block. I guess they're holding the enemy ones in their pocket for the next time they do cycling 10 years from now or whatever.
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Attorney at Funk posted:We got goofy enemy-colored duals last block. I guess they're holding the enemy ones in their pocket for the next time they do cycling 10 years from now or whatever. they're coming next block to celebrate cycling becoming an evergreen mechanic
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Yeah my guess is that the plan is to just alternate between ally and enemy duals each block now that we get two every year.
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mandatory lesbian posted:they're coming next block to celebrate cycling becoming an evergreen mechanic God, I wish.
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whydirt posted:Yeah my guess is that the plan is to just alternate between ally and enemy duals each block now that we get two every year. That's my assumption, too. But having all of these typed duals being the same color pairs is kind of super bullshit for EDH (and maybe for modern if these break out somehow).
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