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Oxxidation posted:YOU SHALL BECOME AS GODS This sequence was the start of the game's place as GotY in my heart
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Pollyanna posted:Some more questions I've thought about after finishing the game: The real reason is that's just how the devs did it, but there's an explanation that makes sense in-game. The machines are obsessed with becoming more human; they imitate human actions while never really understanding why humans did what they did. This is a theme that is present all throughout the game. Every area's machine population focuses on a particular aspect of humanity that they think is most important. One of the first aspects we are introduced to is beauty and sexuality. So is it really strange that they would create a being that has a rippling six-pack or a butt that won't quit? Or that they would wear clothing that emphasizes those features? You'll notice that no one ever draws attention to anyone else's appearance, and that is because no one really understands the meaning behind how they look or dress. In the context of the game, you can't really say that 2B wears a sexy outfit because machines don't have sex. As for A2, I think she's naked because that's just how they did it back when she was made. Machines are shown to evolve, so I think it makes sense that YorHa protocol can change as well. In that ending, it is implied that the same things will happen again, because they are machines after all. Actually, that's kind of a thing that happens with human as well. But since that ending is all about the player forcing a more desired happy ending, I think they end up alright. Adam and Eve are the next step the machines have made in becoming more human. Like I said above, they are modeled after what the machines think a beautiful human looks like. Androids/machines bleed because that's what humans do. vvv I stand corrected on that point. Hikaki fucked around with this message at 20:22 on Mar 31, 2017 |
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Mar 31, 2017 20:18
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To be fair A2 is like that since she's been on the run for years without a chance for maintenance. In the stage play she wears about the same getup as anyone on YoRHa
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Mar 31, 2017 20:21
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Nina posted:It's good to remember not to rack your brain over what's canon and what's gonna happen next too much because Taro might just decide this here novel or somesuch is the definitive story The beauty of Yoko Taro games is that there's never a question of 'is this canon' because the answer is 'Yes, it is, and so is everything else, especially the parts that contradict.'
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Mar 31, 2017 20:28
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Kaboom Dragoon posted:I've gotten into a pattern lately where I just fire up the game and play until something crushingly depressing happens. Today it was Route C and Pascal's story. I'd been told that if I killed him, I'd lose the chance to buy some weapons. But when the choice came, I felt torn: Pascal was asking, one way or another, for death. And If I wanted the items, I'd be lobotomizing someone for my own personal gain. That, after seeing the robot children kill themselves (because it's not a Yoko Taro game til some kids die!) was too much, and I've since sat here thinking about the situation. For the record, I let him live, but I don't feel any less of a bastard for it. Is ito the "this is my hole" guy? Is he also the author of the one where fish grow weird legs and a guy gets a shark in his house. That one was loving absurdly delightful.
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Mar 31, 2017 21:03
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Nina posted:To be fair A2 is like that since she's been on the run for years without a chance for maintenance. In the stage play she wears about the same getup as anyone on YoRHa More importantly, her character arc is about her becoming something other than a murderer. When we're first introduced to her, almost all of the sex appeal of her outfit has been worn down to tatters, a clear link between how she's almost fully abandoned the human concept of love on favor of embracing hatred. SHISHKABOB posted:Is ito the "this is my hole" guy? Is he also the author of the one where fish grow weird legs and a guy gets a shark in his house. That one was loving absurdly delightful. He's the mangaka behind The Enigma of Amigara Fault, yes. I recommend checking out the rest of his work some time; Hellstar Ramina is a masterpiece of surreal horror.
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Mar 31, 2017 21:06
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Dongattack posted:So when did you guys fall for this game? Wanna know if there is some great part coming up that sold everyone or if i'm just not getting it. I'm trying REALLY REALLY hard to like it, but the combat lacks any depth and outside of two boss fights most missions have been the worst offenders of MMO questing with "go here, come back and then go back where you were three times more" and escort missions. Music is very good at least. When one of the fighter pilots immediately gets chumped in the prologue. Body count 1. 
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Mar 31, 2017 21:17
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The game hooked me immediately because I've been a fan of Yoko Taro for such a long time, but I knew I was in for something truly special when the title card appeared in Route C. Routes A and B are some Taro-lite poo poo, the obvious stuff everyone expects him to do. Then Route C starts, and the kid gloves come off.
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Mar 31, 2017 21:18
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The demo sold me on the game, which is basically just the prologue. I also loving love Platinum games, and I even liked Korra so simpler Platinum is fine, as long as it's still rock-solid and leaves room for experimentation. I wish the weapon system was more in-depth, similar to Transformers: Devastation, though.
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Mar 31, 2017 21:19
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There's a lot of cool moments that are potential hooks, like the amusement park and first encountering the machines. Wild ride all around.
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Mar 31, 2017 21:23
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It took me a while to get into it, but once the phrase 'become as gods' entered the picture, yeah, I knew we were in Taro Country. And then Route B ended, the 'episode preview' started and... I cannot remember the last time a game gave me chills like that. SHISHKABOB posted:Is ito the "this is my hole" guy? Is he also the author of the one where fish grow weird legs and a guy gets a shark in his house. That one was loving absurdly delightful. The fish one is Gyo, which got an okay animated adaptation, which changed a whole lot for no real reason. Uzumaki's considered his best work, but his short story collections are superb. As mentioned, a lot of his work veers heavily towards the surreal. Weird stuff happens with no real explanation, but rather than it just feeling like he threw in something to confuse you, it works and becomes loving terrifying. One of my favourite of his short stories involved people being haunted by gigantic, grotesque balloons. The balloons take the shape of their head and face, track down the person they look like, then catch them with a noose and kill them. It sounds stupid as poo poo, but you read it and it sticks with you.
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Mar 31, 2017 21:27
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But for real though the best thing Junji Ito's ever done is his cat diary. 
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Mar 31, 2017 21:38
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I'm missing a side quest. It's one of the shared ones, and it should be available during most chapters, but I can't find it anywhere. I have yet to finish 9S's recon quest, but other than that I've done everything else. Any idea which it could be? It's not any of the Bunker quests.
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Mar 31, 2017 21:48
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Is there a timetable for any upcoming dlc?
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Mar 31, 2017 21:53
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Renoistic posted:I'm missing a side quest. It's one of the shared ones, and it should be available during most chapters, but I can't find it anywhere. I have yet to finish 9S's recon quest, but other than that I've done everything else. Any idea which it could be? It's not any of the Bunker quests. have you obtained and completely upgraded all weapons?
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Mar 31, 2017 21:56
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Pollyanna posted:Is there a timetable for any upcoming dlc? There are no plans for DLC of any sort, the closest thing we have is a producer tweeting that we'll know what the deal is with the apologetic robot doors "soon".
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Pollyanna posted:Is there a timetable for any upcoming dlc? I don't think any upcoming dlc has even been confirmed as existing
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Crappy Jack posted:There are no plans for DLC of any sort, the closest thing we have is a producer tweeting that we'll know what the deal is with the apologetic robot doors "soon". I'm going to be very much amazed if the deal with the doors will somehow involve the doors opening and leading to content without any kind of download taking place. It's good to hear they haven't forgotten about them. If they had it would have bugged me for ages to come.
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Mar 31, 2017 22:10
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You'll pay 5 bucks, the doors will open and inside is another robot: "Oh god, there's nothing actually in here! I'm so sorry!" And then it explodes.
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Mar 31, 2017 22:16
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Achievement Unlocked: In Retrospect, You Should've Seen This Coming
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Mar 31, 2017 22:20
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Hey I finally got my controller issues sorted out and got to playing this game. I got the U ending. This game is pretty alright.
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Mar 31, 2017 22:32
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a kitten posted:You'll pay 5 bucks, the doors will open and inside is another robot: "Oh god, there's nothing actually in here! I'm so sorry!" oh god i want this to happen so badly. i wouldnt even be mad.
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Mar 31, 2017 22:34
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I kinda assume the 'impractical' outfits Yorha use is basically an explicit reminder to other androids of humanity-that-was, to lend credibility to the idea that the tide of war has turned and that the androids are no longer scrabbling around in the dirt to survive.
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Mar 31, 2017 22:54
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Fangz posted:I kinda assume the 'impractical' outfits Yorha use is basically an explicit reminder to other androids of humanity-that-was, to lend credibility to the idea that the tide of war has turned and that the androids are no longer scrabbling around in the dirt to survive. No, it's because Yoko Taro likes girls and heels and skirts Sometimes a cigar is just a penis
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Mazerunner posted:have you obtained and completely upgraded all weapons? Not yet, but almost.
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Mar 31, 2017 23:11
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My interpretation of the YorHa outfits is that the brains behind YorHa designed the androids to be as "human" as possible and to that extent, emphasized two qualities: sex and violence. Sexy robot lady? Check. Sexy robot lady with a katana? Perfect!
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Mar 31, 2017 23:23
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Major postgame spoilers: So does the fact that Kaine's house is down under the shopping mall mean we are in the same area where Nier took place?
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ChaosArgate posted:My interpretation of the YorHa outfits is that the brains behind YorHa designed the androids to be as "human" as possible and to that extent, emphasized two qualities: sex and violence. Sexy robot lady? Check. Sexy robot lady with a katana? Perfect! and yet - here the (presumably) human internet is, talking mostly about robot butts and praising how awesome and satisfying slashing hundreds of robots in this game looks/feels
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Mar 31, 2017 23:34
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So been playing through this game, it's pretty great. Question about one of the side quests In Emil's side quest to find Lunar Tears is that Kaine's drawing of her grandmother down there in the underground at her house? 
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Pollyanna posted:Major postgame spoilers: So does the fact that Kaine's house is down under the shopping mall mean we are in the same area where Nier took place? I thought it just meant that Emil moved her shack down there at some point
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Mar 31, 2017 23:47
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Ekusukariba posted:I thought it just meant that Emil moved her shack down there at some point This was my impression too. Though a sidequest and some archive items do confirm that the desert area is where Facade used to be.
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I am incredibly doubtful that's the original location of Kaine's shack since that'd mean there's a whole shopping mall above the Aerie and I don't believe for a second that there's a mall way above there.
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Um, I've done all the things required to get three Powerup Part S. But I only have two for some reason. Am I screwed? I don't think regular enemies drop it.
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Renoistic posted:I'm missing a side quest. It's one of the shared ones, and it should be available during most chapters, but I can't find it anywhere. I have yet to finish 9S's recon quest, but other than that I've done everything else. Any idea which it could be? It's not any of the Bunker quests. Did you talk to the wrecked Engel?
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warhammer651 posted:Did you talk to the wrecked Engel? Yeah, it seems like I needed to get all weapons upgraded in order to unlock it.
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Re: mangaka chat, if you like dark stories like Nier, check out Inio Asano. Dead Dead Demons De DeDeDeDestruction is an alien invasion story about propaganda and lopsided power dynamics. Also has pretty sweet title drops like Nier: Automata does, and Asano openly said that he put cute girls as the main characters to trick people into reading it. It's probably his least dark story but that's because all his other ones are really crushingly bleak. Rather than an action or thriller story, it's kind of a story about daily life in an alien-invaded Tokyo, but there are some things in Nier: Automata that really reminded me of this manga (can't say without spoiling it). 
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Postgame spoilers: aw gently caress why didn't anyone tell me the Emil fight in Deep Cave was for level 99?  My chips...
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Badingading posted:This was my impression too. Though a sidequest and some archive items do confirm that the desert area is where Facade used to be. Which makes me wonder about when exactly the ruined city was originally built. It's been quite some time since I played Nier 1. I recall it featuring a bit of city, but was that city actually near Facade? It's almost like that got built and destroyed after Nier 1 which makes no sense.
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Is there anywhere else to upgrade weapons to max besides the blacksmith in the forest? Gonna start working on bringing everything to level 4. Edit: And where's the shop that sells upgrade materials? Just Emil running around the map, right? I need stuff like Natural Rubber. Pollyanna fucked around with this message at 01:44 on Apr 1, 2017 |
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Pollyanna posted:Is there anywhere else to upgrade weapons to max besides the blacksmith in the forest? Gonna start working on bringing everything to level 4. Nope.
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