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Hemingway To Go! posted:hopefully she has a somewhat grounded and realistic relationship, like Amy and Rory got, and not like anime ninja maid and vore fetish lizardwoman. Actually, I hope Moffat kills those two before he leaves. Those two characters are cool though? I really have never understood the hate for The Good, The Bad and The Potato Gang. AndyElusive fucked around with this message at 21:12 on Mar 31, 2017 |
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Burkion posted:That's not what was said at all. I have little patience for people who want characters to be killed off at all. I have substantially less patience in cases like these.
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Mar 31, 2017 21:17
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I don't care if Moffat's pet characters get killed off, I just want them to fade away and go unused during Chibnall's run. The universe feels small when you keep returning to the same five side characters.
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Mar 31, 2017 21:29
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Let the Paternoster gang jump over to Big Finish where they rightfully belong. We got Jago & Litefoot & Strax....give me Vastra & Jenny & Quick next.
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Mar 31, 2017 21:33
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jivjov posted:Let the Paternoster gang jump over to Big Finish where they rightfully belong. We got Jago & Litefoot & Strax....give me Vastra & Jenny & Quick next. Vastra is in a story in the next Churchill set.
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Mar 31, 2017 21:46
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Has there been any word about the Paternoster gang being in this season, come to think of it? I really don't think Chibnall will use them, and I'd think Moffat would want to revisit them one last time for sentimental reasons.
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Mar 31, 2017 21:53
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AndyElusive posted:Those two characters are cool though? I really have never understood the hate for The Good, The Bad and The Potato Gang. One of my favourite jokes was when Richard E Grant said he thought Sherlock Holmes was based on Vastra and went: Imagine how people would react if they found out the legendary detective was... *pulls off Vastra's veil, revealing the reptile monster beneath* ...a woman.
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Mar 31, 2017 21:56
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Big Mean Jerk posted:I don't care if Moffat's pet characters get killed off, I just want them to fade away and go unused during Chibnall's run. The universe feels small when you keep returning to the same five side characters. I feel like it's best for each showrunner to develop their own supporting cast(s). RTD had (variously) Rose's family and Martha's family and Captain Jack and Wilf while Moffat's had River, the Paternosters and a few others. I'm sure Chibnall will have some folks of his own. That said, I think the difference between, say, Jackie and Mickey and the Paternoster Gang is that the latter and their relationship to the Doctor are less well-developed (at least in my opinion). Jackie and Mickey get to grow as characters over the course of their appearances but Vastra, Jenny and Strax (who I don't dislike at all, I should say) arrive fully-formed and stay that way.
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Mar 31, 2017 22:16
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Here's a couple of other things that I suppose belong in this thread: Newsbeat reports that Phoebe Waller-Bridge is now the favourite for the Thirteenth Doctor; and Radio Times says that the Doctor will be "trapped on Earth" in season 10.
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Mar 31, 2017 22:20
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Considering the second episode is the one with the emoji bots, I'm guessing he's not stuck on Earth for very long.
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Mar 31, 2017 22:27
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Can't wait for the meltdown for a female doctor
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Mar 31, 2017 23:00
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GonSmithe posted:Can't wait for the meltdown for a female doctor same. It's going to be really funny.
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Mar 31, 2017 23:08
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People will call it 'Nurse Who', and I won't know how to feel.
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Mar 31, 2017 23:11
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Bill being gay is cool. Representation is fantastic and it's about time. As a bonus, there's no chance of there being an awkward romantic tension subplot. The next Doctor likely being a woman is also great and about time and oh god dammit they're going to do an awkward romantic tension subplot if Bill sticks around aren't they.
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Eiba posted:Bill being gay is cool. Representation is fantastic and it's about time. As a bonus, there's no chance of there being an awkward romantic tension subplot. Once Gon brought up the next Doctor being a woman I went from being okay about Bill being gay to horrified Those *FUCKERS* stop making the Doctor and the Companion do this stop it
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jivjov posted:Let the Paternoster gang jump over to Big Finish where they rightfully belong. We got Jago & Litefoot & Strax....give me Vastra & Jenny & Quick next. Jago & Litefoot & Strax & Vastra & Jenny & Quick & Ellie & Captain Jack 
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GonSmithe posted:Can't wait for the meltdown for a female doctor I'm skeptical it'll happen. The "favorite of people gambling on it" stuff is fun, but the articles in which it was clear that the BBC had emphasized a "dashing young doctor" and "romance" and hearkening back to the Tennant days makes it feel like Chibnall's hands were tied out of the gate. I would be extremely happy to be proven wrong, though, and would yell "In your face, cynic!" at my past self. As someone who's probably liked Moffat's run a bit more than most of the posters in this thread though, it was time for him to go either way. This is a template show that is best served by change, and there's a reason that Moffat's quirks are starting to grate. The superhero Christmas special would have a lot more of a middling fun romp if I could have written off the superhero guy and his girl Friday as typical low-level sexism instead of rolling my eyes and gnashing my teeth at The Stephen Moffat brand of warped relationship dynamics. I hope he comes back to write a bottle episode every three seasons or so, though. I really liked Heaven Sent, and that kind of self-contained, reflective episode with bookends, repetition, and a basic horror of some kind is something he was always good at, from the RTD years.
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Bicyclops posted:I'm skeptical it'll happen. The "favorite of people gambling on it" stuff is fun, but the articles in which it was clear that the BBC had emphasized a "dashing young doctor" and "romance" and hearkening back to the Tennant days makes it feel like Chibnall's hands were tied out of the gate. Sure, as much as I would enjoy the Thirteenth Doctor being played by Ruth Wilson or Natalie Dormer or whoever else, I fully expect it will Ben somebody like, say, Aidan Turner.
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Watching homophobes on social media melt the gently caress down over Bill is really giving me life. Like...do these people really spend their daily lives in a state of constant fear that the gays are taking over television?
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jivjov posted:Watching homophobes on social media melt the gently caress down over Bill is really giving me life. Like...do these people really spend their daily lives in a state of constant fear that the gays are taking over television? The gays, blacks, asians, etc. Anyone not straight and white, basically. I noticed they tested the waters a bit last season with Clara hinting at same sex dalliances.
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The_Doctor posted:The gays, blacks, asians, etc. Anyone not straight and white, basically. I noticed they tested the waters a bit last season with Clara hinting at same sex dalliances. Yeah, people are latching into that too. "Clara was bi! Bill doesn't need to be gay, you people just got representation!!"
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Apr 3, 2017 12:03
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jivjov posted:Watching homophobes on social media melt the gently caress down over Bill is really giving me life. Like...do these people really spend their daily lives in a state of constant fear that the gays are taking over television? Especially over a show whose whole ethos is "approach the other with kindness. Even if they are scary ancient lizard monsters, they probably have a legitimate grievance you should listen to instead of just trying to blow them up." Like what are those kinds of people getting from Doctor Who?
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jivjov posted:Yeah, people are latching into that too. "Clara was bi! Bill doesn't need to be gay, you people just got representation!!" Christ.  Yes, don't be greedy, gays! You got Clara! And Captain Jack only 8 years ago!
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The_Doctor posted:Christ. I never counted Jack as he was more of a recurring guest than a full time companion. Plus they wrote him as coming from a time when pan/Omni sexuality was the norm.
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The_Doctor posted:Christ. Clara who had a series long arc centered around her heterosexual relationship. But they slipped in that one line about her snogging Jane Austen! Totally equality there!
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Apr 3, 2017 12:18
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jivjov posted:I never counted Jack as he was more of a recurring guest than a full time companion. Plus they wrote him as coming from a time when pan/Omni sexuality was the norm. If we can count John Hurt as a Real Doctor, we can give Jack Full Companion status. He's still very important from our early 21st Century viewpoint for representation, regardless of where/when he's from.
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Lance Parkin said on Facebook something like "You know, I'd rather than the new companion was a middle-aged man obsessed with the television shows of his youth, and the new show runner was a 28 year old lesbian interested in showing us a new side of the Doctor that we've never seen before" and I can't say I disagree with him. That said, woot! More gay characters in prominent TV roles! More concrete and unambiguous representation! (Please don't gently caress this up Moffat)
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Wow, this season looks like it's shot pretty well.
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DoctorWhat posted:did missy dab?! She most certainly did
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Toph Bei Fong posted:Lance Parkin said on Facebook something like "You know, I'd rather than the new companion was a middle-aged man obsessed with the television shows of his youth, and the new show runner was a 28 year old lesbian interested in showing us a new side of the Doctor that we've never seen before" and I can't say I disagree with him. I mean isn't that basically RTD in a nut shell? Only instead of 28 he's literally a monster from the show on the loose? The joke is that he is a tall, tall man
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DoctorWhat posted:did missy dab?! UGGGGHHHHHHH
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Eiba posted:Bill being gay is cool. Representation is fantastic and it's about time. As a bonus, there's no chance of there being an awkward romantic tension subplot. I like this post, and the journey it takes. jivjov posted:Yeah, people are latching into that too. "Clara was bi! Bill doesn't need to be gay, you people just got representation!!" Wait, was she? I missed that. I've only watched most of Clara's episodes one time, though, and I missed a couple with 12. I remember Danny as being the only real romantic interest, in story or even in passing. edit: Box of Bunnies posted:Clara who had a series long arc centered around her heterosexual relationship. But they slipped in that one line about her snogging Jane Austen! Totally equality there! I guess I should have kept scrolling. I don't even remember this.
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It was a random one-off joke line about how they visited Jane Austen and Clara snogged her a bit
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Apr 3, 2017 19:27
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It was in the Caretaker episode and she's telling her whole class about it while The Doctor is climbing around outside trying to track down the pesky Skovox Blitzer.
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Apr 3, 2017 19:31
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Are Moffat and Capaldi doing the next Christmas special, or are both departing after the normal season run? I'd thought they hadn't cast his replacement yet, but now that I think of it, they'll have to be filming his regeneration soon, won't they?
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Bicyclops posted:Are Moffat and Capaldi doing the next Christmas special, or are both departing after the normal season run? I'd thought they hadn't cast his replacement yet, but now that I think of it, they'll have to be filming his regeneration soon, won't they? Did you see the final shot of the trailer? 
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Apr 3, 2017 19:58
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Maybe the season will end on a regeneration cliffhanger, like the 10th Doctor one before the next episode had him shunt the energy to his spare hand?
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The_Doctor posted:Did you see the final shot of the trailer? Right, that's what triggered it - like, in theory, they've got to cast his replacement to end that scene, but maybe they'll just end on the glowing hand and pick up with the regeneration at Christmas.
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