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Nfl network has sb50 on and I forgot how much it actually looked like a game at the beginning. Heh.
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Lol 10-6 and we led only 30% of the time
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Mar 31, 2017 19:30
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The next All Or Nothing is about the Rams last year. I actually really want to see this. http://www.sbnation.com/2017/3/31/15137018/all-or-nothing-amazon-rams-season-2-release-date
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Mar 31, 2017 19:59
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I hope they had a camera in the room the moment Jeff Fisher got fired so I can rewind and play it over and over and over
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Mar 31, 2017 20:08
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Amy Pole Her posted:Lol 10-6 and we led only 30% of the time Totally sustainable.
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Mar 31, 2017 20:28
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Mar 31, 2017 20:33
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https://twitter.com/miamidolphins/status/847901609489313792 and so ends the career of the worst dolphins draft pick in team history
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Mar 31, 2017 21:31
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Ehud posted:https://twitter.com/miamidolphins/status/847901609489313792 For where he was drafted he really *is* a worse pick than Ginn or White.
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Mar 31, 2017 21:49
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Ehud posted:https://twitter.com/miamidolphins/status/847901609489313792 Holy poo poo, forgot he went #3.
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Ehud posted:https://twitter.com/miamidolphins/status/847901609489313792 Ehud I believe we disagreed vehemently over who won that Raiders/Dolphins trade and I think we both lost
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Mar 31, 2017 21:51
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Blitz7x posted:Ehud I believe we disagreed vehemently over who won that Raiders/Dolphins trade and I think we both lost Who did you guys draft with our pick(s)
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Mar 31, 2017 21:52
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Ehud posted:Who did you guys draft with our pick(s) #12 DJ Hayden & #42 Menelik Watson.
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Mar 31, 2017 21:55
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Uterine Lineup posted:DJ Hayden & Menelik Watson. We won that trade by virtue of both guys giving us comp picks back.
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Jiminy Christmas! Shoes! posted:For where he was drafted he really *is* a worse pick than Ginn or White. ginn's turned into a productive ish player. White should be ranked higher since sending him out there amounted to criminal negligence.
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Uterine Lineup posted:#12 DJ Hayden * Menelik Watson. Menelik Watson at least has a really cool bio you could read about? Silver lining and whatnot.
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Mar 31, 2017 22:18
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How come Jordan didn't work out? I remember vaguely Dolphin fans complaining he was being misused but that's about all.
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Durandal1707 posted:How come Jordan didn't work out? I remember vaguely Dolphin fans complaining he was being misused but that's about all. They tried to make a peak of his physical strength and ability athlete add 30 pounds of muscle and were surprised he kept on getting busted for PED's.
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Durandal1707 posted:How come Jordan didn't work out? I remember vaguely Dolphin fans complaining he was being misused but that's about all. Football Outsiders has a metric with a pretty.... iffy history that absolutely hated Dion Jordan in sackseer. It combines a formula made up of: 1) An "explosion index" that measures the prospect’s scores in the forty-yard dash, the vertical jump, and the broad jump in pre-draft workouts; 2) A metric called "SRAM" which stands for "sack rate as modified." SRAM measures the prospect’s per game sack productivity, but with adjustments for factors such as early entry in the NFL Draft and position switches during college; 3) The prospect’s college passes defensed divided by college games played; and 4) A metric that measures the prospect’s missed games of NCAA eligibility. This metric includes games missed for reasons such as time spent in Junior College, academic problems, injuries, benchings, and suspensions. Their writeup for him was: quote:A decision to turn the card in for Dion Jordan is definitely a decision to bet on measurables. Jordan is a long, fast athlete at 6-foot-7 with 33 7/8-inch arms and a 4.60 forty time. The problem with Jordan is that he has tons of game experience but little production to show for it. In 39 games at Oregon, Jordan only recorded 14.5 sacks and two passes defensed. It is curious that Mingo absorbs so much criticism for his production against LSU, while Jordan receives little, when Mingo has outperformed Jordan on all fronts and against stronger competition. Jordan’s lack of passes defensed is especially concerning, given that scouting reports on Jordan note (positively) that he was regularly asked to drop into coverage, and thus likely had plenty of opportunities to make plays on the football. Jordan’s best-case scenario is probably to become Kamerion Wimbley -- another player with great athleticism and little sack Sackseer that year loved Jamie Collins and Ezekial Ansah, and hated Jarvis Jones a bit less then Dion Jordan. The problem was it also loved the heck out of Barkevious Mingo.
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Dion Jordan also has actual drug problems (not PED's) and does not care about football.
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Mar 31, 2017 22:58
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FO doesn't factor in the Give a Heck® multiplier which measures how many heck a player gives
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Out of curiosity I grabbed a list of each guy they wrote about for Sackseer from 2012-2015 and tossed the rankings in a list: It's actually a healthy bit better then I thought it was with some obvious misses. 98.1 Khalil Mack 97.7 Jamie Collins 95.7 Vic Beasley 94.6 Bud Dupree 94.6 Barkevious Mingo 94.4 Jadeveon Clowney 91.3 Anthony Barr 90.6 Nick Perry 89.7 Randy Gregory 84.6 Kony Ealy 82.3 Ezekial Ansah 80.1 Damontre Moore 77.9 Frank Alexander 77.3 Bjorn Werner 75.2 Preston Smith 71.0 Kyle Van Noy 67.8 Eli Harold 64.5 Margus Hunt 64.2 Ronnell Lewis 62.9 Shea McClellin 60.6 Chandler Jones 58.7 Jarvis Jones 54.9 Andre Branch 52.3 Dion Jordan 51.3 Whitney Mercilus 43.3 Dante Fowler Jr 29.3 Dee Ford 28.1 Jonathan Massaquoi 26.4 Bruce Irvin 25.4 Quinton Coples 21.6 Melvin Ingram 18.5 Shane Ray 16.9 Vinny Curry 15.5 Courtney Upshaw 4.0 Michael Sam
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Mar 31, 2017 23:04
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No guys it's because he's gay
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a neat cape posted:No guys it's because he's gay I re-read their writeup on him, because it's pretty interesting and points out he had a very productive senior season which helped buoy the case for him.. but also points out that it was a bit of a misnomer: quote:At the bottom of the page is a chart of all of the SackSEER projections for edge rushers who received an invite to this year’s NFL Combine. Of great interest to most readers will be Missouri defensive end Michael Sam, who seeks to make history by becoming the first openly gay player to play in the NFL. The Football Outsiders staff certainly has a great deal of admiration for Sam’s courage, and we will be rooting for him to succeed. SackSEER, however, is a series of equations that are indifferent towards a prospect’s strength of character. In Sam’s case, those equations are not kind. I also had posted this awhile ago in the draft thread, his mockdraftable spider chart is one of the worst for a combine prospect: https://www.mockdraftable.com/player/michael-sam?position=EDGE
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a neat cape posted:No guys it's because he's gay shouldn't that give him a higher sack seer score ?
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Kalli posted:
Whitney Mercilus says hi  e:Oh derp that was his junior season 
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Ehud posted:shouldn't that give him a higher sack seer score ? Lmao
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Kalli posted:This is cool, and started looking at the bottom and realized, oh right, the %'s are so low due to how often teams spent tied, so started looking into how often was a team losing: It's interesting, there are pressures on the statistic in both directions. When teams are just trading scores, teams will often be losing on their offensive possessions as the lead goes back and forth (or alternates with a tie). But the bigger pressure is probably the other way, which is that teams that are good on offense will often (but not always) have longer drives, in terms of snap count. That second factor is a lot of why the Patriots blow everyone else out of the water: good offense built around an unstoppable onslaught of shorter plays.
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Michael Sam sacked Johnny Manziel in a preseason game, so if nothing else his heart is in the right place. For the bottom of that list I was under the impression Shane Ray was doing ok. Not amazingly or anything, but a decent NFL pass rusher. Grittybeard fucked around with this message at 01:14 on Apr 1, 2017 |
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Grittybeard posted:Michael Sam sacked Johnny Manziel in a preseason game, so if nothing else his heart is in the right place. And flashed the money sign right after it in the sickest burn of that preseason.
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Kalli posted:Out of curiosity I grabbed a list of each guy they wrote about for Sackseer from 2012-2015 and tossed the rankings in a list: The methodology is pretty solid, but even with the stats going into it, you aren't gonna hit 100% of the time--too much other stuff going into why a player succeeds or fails. It's telling that Sam couldn't crack the Cowboys' roster in a year when the team as a whole logged 27 sacks (28th in the NFL that season).
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Kalli posted:Out of curiosity I grabbed a list of each guy they wrote about for Sackseer from 2012-2015 and tossed the rankings in a list: Which way does it miss (I don't know these guys that well)? If all the misses are in the same direction, it could still be very useful.
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ulmont posted:Which way does it miss (I don't know these guys that well)? If all the misses are in the same direction, it could still be very useful. I need to take a look at it.... but it's the weekend, so it'll probably wait until I'm bored at work again. I think the sackseer stuff for this draft class is going up soon, so it'd be nice to compare. I know some guys like Mercilus, Shane Ray and Bruce Irvin are way overperforming those results, and Mingo was a huge bust, but at least some of the other whiffs are due to injuries which pretty much can be ignored. I think the stat may actually be okay, at least for the top end guys.... There's also tables of everyone from the combine, and I think those numbers are all over the place.
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Apr 1, 2017 04:08
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Oh god I ate too much shrimp what have I done
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Apr 1, 2017 04:13
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Bad Moon posted:Oh god I ate too much shrimp what have I done Balance out your shrimp levels with some white wine. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qP97PPTufJA
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Ehud posted:shouldn't that give him a higher sack seer score ? Well done sir
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Bad Moon posted:Oh god I ate too much shrimp what have I done We eating so many shrimp, we getting iodine poisoning.
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https://twitter.com/RyanDLeaf/status/848158354484715520
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Apr 2, 2017 01:16
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Wrong forum
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Best April Fools joke yet.
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I'm happy for him.
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