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Diva Cupcake posted:Dane Brugler's annual draft guide is out. Good for full scouting reports on all the unknown 4-7th rounders you've never heard of. he has mccafferey rated above fournette. I don't even know what that is
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zimbomonkey posted:he has mccafferey rated above fournette. I don't even know what that is Not sure why this is a crazytime evaluation, McCafferey is going to be a really good pro
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Apr 1, 2017 02:54
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I think you can say he'll arguably be good, but I can't think of one thing he's done that Fournette doesn't do as well if not better other than catch out of the backfield.
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Apr 1, 2017 05:08
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Also he has Cook above both of them and I think he's probably number 3 on the list.
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Apr 1, 2017 05:08
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zimbomonkey posted:I think you can say he'll arguably be good, but I can't think of one thing he's done that Fournette doesn't do as well if not better other than catch out of the backfield. I mean, that's kind of a big thing that a RB needs to do these days.
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Apr 1, 2017 05:29
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zimbomonkey posted:I think you can say he'll arguably be good, but I can't think of one thing he's done that Fournette doesn't do as well if not better other than catch out of the backfield. He broke the NCAA record for all purpose yards two years ago. He's a multi-purpose threat that isn't 5'9". It's a legit debate.
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Apr 1, 2017 07:04
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Mccaffery would be wasted on Carolina. Let him go somewhere mike Shula can't turn him into a blocking back or whatever.
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Apr 1, 2017 13:38
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warcrimes posted:He broke the NCAA record for all purpose yards two years ago. He's a multi-purpose threat that isn't 5'9". It's a legit debate. I think its less a knock on McCaffery and more injury concerns about Fournette and his play style.
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Apr 1, 2017 15:07
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Brugler said his top 3 RBs are all first round talents so not too controversial. Here are his summaries for each. Cook posted:SUMMARY: A two-year starter, Cook is arguably the best running back Florida State has ever produced, owning the two best rushing seasons in school history and McCaffrey posted:SUMMARY: A two-year starter at Stanford, McCaffrey has been one of college football’s premier ballcarriers the past two seasons, showing his versatility rushing, Fournette posted:SUMMARY: A three-year starter in LSU’s power-I offense, Fournette is freakishly gifted with his blend of size, athleticism and power and the NFL hasn’t seen a
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Apr 1, 2017 15:30
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I know as a member of TFF I'm not supposed to want running backs in the first round, and as a fan of the Kansas City Chiefs I'm not supposed to want to draft anything this year other than a quarterback if one of Watson/Mahomes/Kizer/Trubinski falls to 27. Or 20+ with a trade up according to half of this fan base. But I think I'd be pretty ok with drafting one of those RBs if they fall to KC no matter who's on the board.
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Apr 1, 2017 15:44
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Why are they comparing a RB to a linebacker
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Apr 1, 2017 15:51
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Gumbel2Gumbel posted:Why are they comparing a RB to a linebacker He means Jonathan Stewart....I think.
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Apr 1, 2017 16:21
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warcrimes posted:Not sure why this is a crazytime evaluation, McCafferey is going to be a really good pro I think it's a usage thing. Fournette projects to be an every down back who can give you 300+ carries a year. McCaffrey projects to be a 150-200 carry back who can also catch a ton of passes out of the backfield or line up in the slot. Teams will value that, but common sense says teams won't draft a RB in the top 10 if they think he can't be an every down back.
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Apr 1, 2017 16:36
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I'm getting an increasing feeling that the Colts are taking McCaffrey at 15, and I'm not quite sold on it yet.
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Apr 1, 2017 16:38
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Also for Carolina I am pretty much Fournette or bust with the RBs. I don't want McCaffrey at 8 because he isn't worth the 8th pick and because his skill set will be wasted in our offense. Cam needs a power back to take the pressure off of him running in short yardage situations, and our offense doesn't utilize the RB as a receiving option as much. I think McCaffrey has a chance to be great, but it'll have to be on the right team. Like, the guy could be a Hall of Famer in that Patriots offense.
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Apr 1, 2017 16:47
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Grittybeard posted:I know as a member of TFF I'm not supposed to want running backs in the first round, and as a fan of the Kansas City Chiefs I'm not supposed to want to draft anything this year other than a quarterback if one of Watson/Mahomes/Kizer/Trubinski falls to 27. Or 20+ with a trade up according to half of this fan base. No Mccaffrey in KC.
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Apr 1, 2017 16:48
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No Butt Stuff posted:No Mccaffrey in KC. I honestly think he'll be pretty good, but the connection to his dad is a definite downside.
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Apr 1, 2017 16:48
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No I want two low round WR's who will be out of football in 2 years.
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Apr 1, 2017 16:50
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No Butt Stuff posted:No Mccaffrey in KC. He's the perfect running back for our offense
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Apr 1, 2017 17:09
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McCaffrey is gonna bust and be out of the league in three years.
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Apr 1, 2017 17:13
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I, too, would be pretty happy if KC ended up with one of those guys. I'd prefer McCaffery, purely due to how Andy Reid's offense works.
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Apr 1, 2017 17:45
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If the Eagles took McCaffrey at 14 I wouldn't be upset. He's a great fit for the offense.
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Apr 1, 2017 18:26
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Gumbel2Gumbel posted:Why are they comparing a RB to a linebacker Because running backs the size of linebackers are uncommon.
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Apr 1, 2017 18:33
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Strobe posted:I, too, would be pretty happy if KC ended up with one of those guys. I'd prefer McCaffery, purely due to how Andy Reid's offense works. I think you can make a pretty good argument that Cook is a better fit and better player, but woof that combine.
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Apr 1, 2017 18:33
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Grittybeard posted:I think you can make a pretty good argument that Cook is a better fit and better player, but woof that combine. I'd be more worried about his multiple shoulder injuries and fumbling issues. Oh yeah, and he's a scumbag.
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Apr 1, 2017 18:36
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Strobe posted:I, too, would be pretty happy if KC ended up with one of those guys. I'd prefer McCaffery, purely due to how Andy Reid's offense works. There's not a good reason to feel pressed to take a RB in the first when the Head Coach hates running and the draft is incredibly deep at RB. Going RB in the first round is one of the worst moves the Chiefs could make.
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Apr 1, 2017 18:54
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aBagorn posted:If the Eagles took McCaffrey at 14 I wouldn't be upset. He's a great fit for the offense. Stop we need to break away from this WC nonsense
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Apr 1, 2017 19:01
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LiquidFriend posted:McCaffery would be pretty redundant since they've already got Tyreek. Chiefs were almost exactly average last year in attempts and yards for rushing.
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Apr 1, 2017 19:02
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Gumbel2Gumbel posted:Chiefs were almost exactly average last year in attempts and yards for rushing. Surprised they managed to be average in yards if the attempts bit is true. Running back is a need for the team. I definitely get the argument it's not a first round need of course, but they're by no means set at the position.
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Apr 1, 2017 19:05
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Grittybeard posted:Surprised they managed to be average in yards if the attempts bit is true. Running back is a need for the team. I definitely get the argument it's not a first round need of course, but they're by no means set at the position. Not a fan of Ware?
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Apr 1, 2017 19:07
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Grittybeard posted:Surprised they managed to be average in yards if the attempts bit is true. Running back is a need for the team. I definitely get the argument it's not a first round need of course, but they're by no means set at the position. Yeah, I mean Andy Reid is going to get his peas and carrots taken away at the old folks' home because he keeps on diagramming screen plays on the tables with them, but he doesn't really 'hate' running. It's just something the Philly media picked up on because some doofus in the Philly media said "WHEN LESEAN MCCOY RUNS IT 20 TIMES THE EAGLES ALWAYS WIN" which was just what teams do when they have a big lead.
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Grittybeard posted:I think you can make a pretty good argument that Cook is a better fit and better player, but woof that combine. If Cook is available in the mid-20s then of course, but he won't be. I am and will always be in favor of more multi-role skill players so that Reid can run silly gimmick formations because that is the best kind of football.
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Apr 1, 2017 19:13
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Diqnol posted:Not a fan of Ware? He's fine. I thought he might be like just below David Johnson good after the end of 2 seasons ago and the beginning of last season. Through 6 games last year he was on pace for about 2000 yards from scrimmage. He ended up with 1368. Which is fine! That's a perfectly useful running back. It's also a running back who fell off quite a bit due to whatever you want to blame after a hot start and limped to the finish of the season. So you can either supplement his production or go for a home run and make him the backup (or get lucky and draft a guy good enough to push him out of the starting role later on). One way or another it seems like the Chiefs should draft a running back this year, the question is just when.
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Apr 1, 2017 19:19
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Grittybeard posted:He's fine. I thought he might be like just below David Johnson good after the end of 2 seasons ago and the beginning of last season. Through 6 games last year he was on pace for about 2000 yards from scrimmage. He ended up with 1368. Which is fine! That's a perfectly useful running back. It's also a running back who fell off quite a bit due to whatever you want to blame after a hot start and limped to the finish of the season. If you get perfectly fine production like that out of a 6th round pick you should probably focus on your below average QB
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Grittybeard posted:He's fine. I thought he might be like just below David Johnson good after the end of 2 seasons ago and the beginning of last season. Through 6 games last year he was on pace for about 2000 yards from scrimmage. He ended up with 1368. Which is fine! That's a perfectly useful running back. It's also a running back who fell off quite a bit due to whatever you want to blame after a hot start and limped to the finish of the season. I think Ware had an accumulation of injuries, he looked so slow at the end of the season compared to the beginning.
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Apr 1, 2017 19:29
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Diqnol posted:Stop we need to break away from this WC nonsense And do what? Put Alex smith in a coryell offense? Either take the white kid or draft mahomes and let Jesus take the wheel.
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Apr 2, 2017 00:58
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Cian Fahey really doesn't like this fella (click for a bunch of gifs of this dude sucking.) https://twitter.com/Cianaf/status/848358130077630464
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Apr 2, 2017 06:59
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here's something that might catch on: https://twitter.com/NFL/status/848380736994504704
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Apr 2, 2017 07:21
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That's just crazy enough to work
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I remember this happening the past few years but can't recall any of the potential TEs names so it hasn't been stellar success in the past.
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