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Pochoclo posted:The Falklands war was against a third-world military dictatorship with a devastated economy, losing the support of its people fast, with obsolete equipment, a badly trained army composed mostly of scared teenagers, drunk idiot generals, and boy I could keep going for days. The Argentinian military junta was expecting Britain not to intervene. That was the entirety of their plan. They knew that it was a major investment of time and money to go all the way across the world to defend them, and they were hoping Thatcher would just let it go. She didn't and the rest is history. We had nukes then and we have them now
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let's nuke madrid so they keep their swarthy mediterranean hands off ARE ROCK
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I still find feet and inches useful, but everything else can gently caress off, while cups work just fine for cooking. The only reason I still weigh myself in stone is because when telling people how much I weigh in kilos I might as well be talking in moonspeak.
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Jose posted:We had nukes then and we have them now So does France.
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Julio Cruz posted:Both systems have this, and metric has the advantage of not getting extremely complicated the moment you move out of the "one ounce to one pound" scale.
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Apr 2, 2017 15:14
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jBrereton posted:There's no easy 1/4 type stuff in Metric, it's all thousandths of something else. Very useful for large scale projects, less good for the domestic kitchen. I don't think anyone much uses cubits and we don't learn them in school or owt. Or just use cups. Or one of the many extremely cheap digital scales that all measure down to the gram and a bit of quick mental arithmetic. Round up or down by five grams if you have to. Anything except forcing some garbage measurement system on our society.
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Apr 2, 2017 15:17
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kids these days dont even learn how many hogsheads there are to a perch its a disgrace. barmy brussels bureaucrats stopped us from using the quarter days and everything but now we're taking our cuntryBACK
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I've always used feet/inches for height and stone/pounds for weight because that's what seems to be common. Metric is better and actually makes sense intuitively.
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Apr 2, 2017 15:17
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Imperial measurements are bad for everything that doesn't involve cooking, height, weight, driving, milk, time, and probably space too.
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I can't get enough of are Dan
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Oberleutnant posted:kids these days dont even learn how many hogsheads there are to a perch its a disgrace. barmy brussels bureaucrats stopped us from using the quarter days and everything but now we're taking our cuntryBACK
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A metric cup is 250mL which is 1/4 of a litre. There are 16* tablespoons in a cup so 4 tbsp is 1/4 of a cup. * 16 2⁄3 international tablespoons of 15 ml each if you're being super accurate, but close enough for cookery. Or 12.5 Australian tablespoons but nobody uses those except Australians. It's not official SI stuff but neither is Celsius or km/h and people still use those.
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Apr 2, 2017 15:23
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Imagine if by the end of the year we were at war with Spain. Honestly, think about it for a bit.
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happyhippy posted:Don't understand the first part about 'work related activities'. People in the Work Related Activities Group are expected to be doing something to seek work, or improve their mental or physical condition such that they could eventually seek work. I don't know the qualifying criteria, but it seems to be applied at random. People on WRAG suffer through a lot more check-ins, and they try to push them into doing a lot of job skills courses, charity work, or other voluntary-but-not-really things. I know of someone who was referred to a non-therapist for breathing exercises, massage, and lovely, unlicensed therapy, with the cheery reminder that she'd be cut off for not attending. Its technically less pressure than being on JSA, but still a lot of unnecessary stress. Also, like with anything dole related, how you're treated depends on the advisor lottery. So, good job to the DWP for taking money away from them. This is definitely not an attack on the vulnerable, and will absolutely make Britain a better place to live, somehow, probably, for sure.
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Imperial measurements are typically in base 12, which is easy to divide by a half, a third, a quarter, a sixth. Metric multiplies consistently. When everyone was a farmer or doing manual labour, quick divisions were more useful. Now that most people aren't, quick multiplications and international standards are more useful. It's two different uses. Everyone throwing a weirdly passionate strop about imperial measurements are acting like the people who invented them didn't have any common sense or logical backing behind doing it the way they did.
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Hoops posted:Imagine if by the end of the year we were at war with Spain. Honestly, think about it for a bit. Doesn't bode well for a citizen of Spain like me so I hope not. I mean even though I'd leave faster than you can blink I imagine they'd seize my bank account or something which would be a huge bummer.
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Apr 2, 2017 15:30
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Hoops posted:Imagine if by the end of the year we were at war with Spain. Honestly, think about it for a bit. Cups for everyone.
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Apr 2, 2017 15:33
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the worst thing about american recipes is when they measure things in volume using cups thjat have absolutely no reason for it
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Apr 2, 2017 15:33
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It means you can cook without scales tho.
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Apr 2, 2017 15:36
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serious gaylord posted:We're getting our blue passports back. At a cost of £500m pounds. To be fair they are going to have to be replaced in any case because making new ones with 'European Union' on them in two years' time is a bit of a non-starter. Changing the colour at the same time isn't going to make much of a material or monetary difference except that it appeals to Tory coffin dodgers.
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Apr 2, 2017 15:37
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Jose posted:We had nukes then and we have them now Lol if you think attacking a NATO member would go well for us in any way shape or form 
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Hoops posted:Imagine if by the end of the year we were at war with Spain. Honestly, think about it for a bit.
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Apr 2, 2017 15:43
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Guavanaut posted:It means you can cook without scales tho. Is using scales really that much of a hardship?
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feedmegin posted:Lol if you think attacking a NATO member would go well for us in any way shape or form TBF, the status quo is Gibraltar is British, so it would be kind of.unusually stupid even for a Tory to attack first. Unless they want to expand it or something.
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Apr 2, 2017 15:49
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We bake using digital scales and solely metric measurements, occasionally using cups for baking recipes my wife gets from Pinterest. I guess there's some aesthetic appeal in having recipes that look like nice simple ratios but grams are not hard to work with and are hardly impossible to divide down with either. Can we at least be glad that no one is calling for a return to pre-decimalised currency? Even the Americans aren't that stupid.
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Pochoclo posted:You know what, I don't know which of you are trolling (hopefully most of you) but I'm done arguing. Just go to http://www.metric.org.uk/ and go through all the items if you're actually serious about imperial. Lmao nice parting shot.
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Kegluneq posted:Can we at least be glad that no one is calling for a return to pre-decimalised currency? Even the Americans aren't that stupid. Actually I think going back to shillings and guineas is not good enough. I propose we go back to good old Roman Empire times and bring back the denarius. Angles, Saxons and Normans hosed everything up for the good ol' honest romano-briton.
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Hey guys how about we just keep the current system of metric having official priority but still recognising that lots of people might still use imperial for things like food and speeds as that's what they can mentally associate with. This is one of UKMT's more tedious derails. Bring back spag bol chat.
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Kegluneq posted:Can we at least be glad that no one is calling for a return to pre-decimalised currency? Even the Americans aren't that stupid. No point, we're going back to pre-currency barter so fast there'll be no chance to use it. Mentioning Americans - you know who else has dark blue passports?
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i think we should do away with imperial because old people can gently caress off
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Ewan posted:Hey guys how about we just keep the current system of metric having official priority but still recognising that lots of people might still use imperial for things like food and speeds as that's what they can mentally associate with. Pissflaps never posted the recipe
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forkboy84 posted:Is using scales really that much of a hardship? Cheap digital scales are pretty ubiquitous now though. EmptyVessel posted:Mentioning Americans - you know who else has dark blue passports?
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Guavanaut posted:North Korea, Somalia, and South Sudan? With them and the US we'll be part of a really great club.
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If people ask me for my measurements its easier to say "5'4" or "17 stone" or "3 inches" than their metric equivalents. It's not about being right or wrong It's just what you're used to.
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Apr 2, 2017 16:19
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Pochoclo where are you from again?
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feedmegin posted:Lol if you think attacking a NATO member would go well for us in any way shape or form If military action is required to defend Gibraltar then it would be Spain who is the belligerent party.
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Pissflaps posted:If people ask me for my measurements its easier to say "5'4" or "17 stone" or "3 inches" than their metric equivalents. It's not about being right or wrong It's just what you're used to. To absolutely no-one's surprise.
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Julio Cruz posted:To absolutely no-one's surprise.
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I prefer carbonara or amatriciana, or just pesto. Puttanesca is also pretty good if a bit salty. What I really want is some gnocchi though - they haven't stocked gnocchi at my local M&S for quite some time now, and I haven't seen fresh pasta shops around (which are quite ubiquitous back in Arg), which is a shame
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jBrereton posted:I'm saying if there's a preexisting system which has neat 1:4 divisions (that are still referenced by most measuring jugs/scales/recipe books!), why kludge in a new one? Very happy to use metric for most stuff, but there are things imperial is better for. 4oz is not a naturally obvious 1:4 division of 1lb. It requires that you know a pound is 16 ounces. The metric system, meanwhile, has no such requirement when it comes to knowing that 250g is a 1:4 division of 1000g. By the by and since nobody answered, there's 112lb in a hundredweight. This is for the same reason as the baker's dozen - because giving short weight used to be a major offence, you'd throw in a bit on top to be sure.
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