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iospace posted:it's a theme, not an element.
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My pokemon fangame adds type O Negative.
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Apr 2, 2017 18:44
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Plus steel is just a really cool idea for a type and gave them an excuse to create things like metagross the living supercomputer Pokemon down the line.
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Apr 2, 2017 18:48
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I honestly can't see a new type being added as anything one could think of can be covered by existing types (Cosmic/Light by fairy for example), would rob another type of options for movelists (Sound for normal), or wouldn't really work as an element. Though I do think a lot of the Flying Types mon need an overhaul - how many gens did it take before GF finally made a pure flying and the ton of flying/normals that could be reclassed - as say perhaps Flying/Fighting
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Robindaybird posted:I honestly can't see a new type being added as anything one could think of can be covered by existing types (Cosmic/Light by fairy for example), would rob another type of options for movelists (Sound for normal), or wouldn't really work as an element. Flying really, really needs an overhaul, or a more accurate name. It's effectively "air" in classical elements, at least in practice.
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lot of it is - even accounting for 'early flyer to steamroll bugs and grass if you don't have the fire starter', there's way too many flying/normals, and the only pure flying is Tornadus so there's no real way to gauge how effective Flying is on it's own. Some of the mons I'd consider reclassifying to Flying/Fighting is Farfetch'd, Dodrio line for the kick moves, and the Taillow line (mainly since it's blurb that it's Aggro-bird)
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Robindaybird posted:It's adorable, but it's coloration makes me think Dragon, not Flying. that's just because it looks like altaria isn't it
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KennyMan666 posted:I'd argue this argument doesn't quite work given that Dragon and Bug exist, since it applies at least as much if not more to those. The Bug type is pretty central to Pokemon, since the entire franchise was made to emulate Satoshi Tajiri's experiences catching bugs in the fields and forests of Kanto as a child, and the rest of the type chart was expanded out from Bug, which is where Bird came from (which was re-branded to flying so they could fit more into it which gave it the identity crisis mentioned above). Dragon fits in a lot better when you have Bug and Bird to go with it. I'd also say Fairy also fits into this taxonomic classification category of Pokemon types, which was the original concept for Pokemon types. Sound doesn't fit into this category of types, though.
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While I like pokemon sometimes I laugh at how hyper critical people are of some of the ideas in some fan games because realistically, the original games buggy and silly charm is what definitely helped the series persist over time. I get some of the edgier poo poo is just bad but most times, unless it looks like bad sonic fan art, I usually give the benefit of the doubt. Like it's taken the Pokemon franchise a poo poo ton of generations to make some types relevant. Besides heracross, foretress and scyther, bug types were actually fairly represented but criminally underpowered as a type until the last few generations. Dragons and ghost were a mess for different reasons. and the normal type is still the weirdest typing to me, especially the normal types with secondary types that aren't flying. Or the idea that every non elemental flying type was by default also normal until Tornadus. And does the normal like indicate you're shaped like an animal?
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I guess I'm the only one liking the 2edge Kurian ghost Lopunny  I mean I love its design aesthetic, it keeps the creepy doll theme going strong throughout its evolutions, and its Pokédex bio is suitably creepy for a ghost. EDIT: Carlioo posted:(a sadist that want to impress it's trainer because it loves it so much? I guess it's to play up the yandere angle to some ghosts? Dinictus fucked around with this message at 21:56 on Apr 2, 2017 |
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Dinictus posted:I guess I'm the only one liking the 2edge Kurian ghost Lopunny I liked the design of Kurian Bunery honestly. Not that spooky ghost doll is unique in the PokéUniverse, but it looks neat. K-Lopunny's designs are also alright, but the description ruins it for me (a sadist that want to impress it's trainer because it loves it so much?  )Honestly, a lot of these design choices feels like the creators had an idea (Let's make crystallized versions of mega Pokemon! That'd be cool!) and then kinda ran with it for too long (Crystal typing!). Most of the Pokemon designs feels like they could fit in an actual Pokemon game, but I think whatever Azurite is gonna end up as, any good design choices they make will probably be held back by bad gameplay/story design. But again, they probably aren't even close to releasing it, so hopefully it'll end up good.
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Gyra_Solune posted:It never seemed like they were all stony to me? Aerodactyl's just a pterodactyl Petrodactyl.
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Crystal is the only type idea from Azurite I like. I like the idea of a neutral type, actually. but I wouldn't put in new types if I were making a Pokemon fangame. just, too much loving work to balance. the idea would be to do the minimum amount of work while still making something people would enjoy. also, there would only be one new Mega. Mega Dunsparce, obviously. It's just bigger and has fully functional wings. and +50 to every stat. still Normal.
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Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:Petrodactyl. 
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Spatula City posted:Crystal is the only type idea from Azurite I like. I like the idea of a neutral type, actually. As a kid I practically expected/wanted crystal type to become a thing ever since one anime episode had a Crystal Onix in it I also wanted a dragon/semilegendary type that had a cocoon mid-stage for some reason and I got that twice, so I guess kidself at least had some things come true
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a true neutral type is sorta weird to me when normal's supposed to pretty much be that - its not being good against rock/steel defines those two as being especially defensive, its being weak against fighting defines it as being especially offensive in nature, its mutual ineffectualness with ghost defines it as being especially unusual and tricky in nature. any kind of true neutrality ought to be a specific gimmick instead of an actual type really. crystal's basically rock type anyway. and yeah, i agree with the sentiment that this big flashy poke fangame is going to exist as concept art and nothing else, i don't see any evidence that there is any video game being made yet so this is basically an elaborate showcase for some random fanart
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Gyra_Solune posted:its not being good against rock/steel defines those two as being especially defensive This is a weird thing re rock that Gamefreak needs to drop, though
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Mister Olympus posted:This is a weird thing re rock that Gamefreak needs to drop, though why though
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Gyra_Solune posted:why though I think because rock is a lovely defensive type but one of the strongest offensive ones. But almost all rock pokemon are slow and defensive. Ice has a similar issue.
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Apr 2, 2017 22:47
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Have you ever punched a rock? Those things are durable.
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Waffleman_ posted:Have you ever punched a rock? Those things are durable. According to pokemon, rocks are weak to punching tho.
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Zore posted:According to pokemon, rocks are weak to punching tho. poo poo
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Rock is weak to fighting because Martial Artist's break rocks with their They tend to get those skills by punching rocks and not breaking them.
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Gyra_Solune posted:crystal's basically rock type anyway. and yeah, i agree with the sentiment that this big flashy poke fangame is going to exist as concept art and nothing else, i don't see any evidence that there is any video game being made yet so this is basically an elaborate showcase for some random fanart There's a single video in the video section that looks decent, and there's some musical tracks completed. It looks like it's fairly early in development, so for now I'll give them the benefit of the doubt. Though you're probably right and it won't release.
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I'd say crystal could be in line with ice type too. I do appreciate that most pokemon are water besides normal because the planet is mostly water another type wouldn't hurt. It's just filling it up enough. Fairy worked because so many cutesey normal types existed. Crystal could also work because some rock and ice types would fit it. Also I still don't understand showing off your not for profit fan projects so early, unless you are seeking help from others. It's just asking for a C&D
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Waffleman_ posted:Have you ever punched a rock? Those things are durable. now I am forced to post this 
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Vorpal Cat posted:Plus steel is just a really cool idea for a type and gave them an excuse to create things like metagross the living supercomputer Pokemon down the line.  "Hold on while I parallel-park my supercomputer."
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I can relate to the urge to fire beams of destruction at bad drivers.
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DeafNote posted:now I am forced to post this I legitimately use this comic as my pnemonic for Fighting/Flying.
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Waffleman_ posted:I legitimately use this comic as my pnemonic for Fighting/Flying.
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Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:
The fact that they added a random French NPC but didn't bother to check and see if the grammar was correct makes me irrationally frustrated for some reason.
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Vinylshadow posted:
This is so amazing. I don't care what you Pokefreaks post about types or whatever, I'm loving the art in this thread.
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My theorycrafted sound typing was strong against rock because of shattering glass/crystals but not effective against ground or ice (snow tends to absorb noise weirdly, though solid ice not necessarily so). I don't remember all of the things I had in it off the top of my head but SE against water and steel too. I mostly gave up on it when I realized there were too many dual-type pokemon who would make sense as sound, but I didn't want to change either of their types. I think dealing with it with ability variants is probably best. That said, it's probably STILL the best of the types that Azurite is adding. Cosmic, Light, and Mystic are all things that basically could be done by some combination of fairy, psychic, dark, and ghost, and almost all of the pokemon they've retyped to those (as well as the regional variants who are mostly the new types) are kind of awkward changes. And Crystal is just a super mode thing basically. The Golux fucked around with this message at 04:52 on Apr 3, 2017 |
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Still not sure why sand attack is ground type instead of dark. Sand in the eyes is like the classic dirty fighting move.
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Tunicate posted:Still not sure why sand attack is ground type instead of dark. Sand in the eyes is like the classic dirty fighting move. I don't know why, either.
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Waffleman_ posted:Z-Moves are just so much of a better mechanic in basically every way that it's embarrassing. Can't transfer Z-Crystals between games. I now am obligated by blood to never reset my copy of Pokemon Moon or else I lose that Snorlium and Mewnium forever. That just ain't kosher.
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KataraniSword posted:Can't transfer Z-Crystals between games. I now am obligated by blood to never reset my copy of Pokemon Moon or else I lose that Snorlium and Mewnium forever. That just ain't kosher. Neither of those have any competitive use, to be fair. They're a trinket that just exists, like the Mewtwo mega stones.
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iospace posted:Neither of those have any competitive use, to be fair. They're a trinket that just exists, like the Mewtwo mega stones. Exactly. Some of us just want to play the single player like filthy casuals and also get shiny neat things.  Being forced to choose between "lose your neat things forever" and "stop playing single player because you're all out of game" is something that just grates really hard on me.
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KataraniSword posted:Exactly. Some of us just want to play the single player like filthy casuals and also get shiny neat things. I imagine that's easy enough to get around with a modded 3DS, yet another reason why you should always jailbreak Nintendo consoles.
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KataraniSword posted:Can't transfer Z-Crystals between games. I now am obligated by blood to never reset my copy of Pokemon Moon or else I lose that Snorlium and Mewnium forever. That just ain't kosher.  all the mega stones that are trapped in copies of XY forever.I really wish you could put mega stones & z-crystals in Bank, since it's not like you could break the game balance by restarting for dozens of them anyway.
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