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Bet you that's the only slit those nerds are shooting things into.
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DaveSplitter posted:Bet you that's the only slit those nerds are shooting things into.
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Thirsty Girl posted:good thread!! i didnt post this it might be from another universe
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Shooting at a double slit is my type of repeatable quest
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infinite universes can't exist because otherwise we would have proof of their existence due to Sliders type people appearing at basically every possible moment in space time. So either 1) Travel between universes is impossible 2) There are not infinite universes (Only one or just several) 3) We are one of the infinite universes where travel to our universe from other universes is impossible
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There's an awful, stupid theory that a new universe is created whenever a quantum decision is forced, branching into multiple universes for each possible solution to the problem, and this derives from stupid people trying to reformulate quantum physics into something more comprehensible No, it's just possible because the universe's lumpy nature suggests that early on after the big bang there might have been concentrations of energy so great that they caused additional big bangs, which of course suggests that our universe might have had the same genesis and the number of universes grows exponentially, but of course infinite universes can't exist from mere exponential growth There's no actual evidence for this, nor any way to test for it in the near future Another current theory derived from the lumpy nature of cosmic microwave background radiation is that the universe is actually a two-dimensional surface and the dimensions we experience, including time, are essentially a hologram of this surface, which strikes me as quite Platonic IANAL except substitute physics for law Filthy Hans fucked around with this message at 00:22 on Apr 3, 2017 |
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Space Crabs posted:infinite universes can't exist because otherwise we would have proof of their existence due to Sliders type people appearing at basically every possible moment in space time. 4) Travel from other universes is possible but our universe is the shittiest one around so no one wants to come here.
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Kanthulhu posted:4) Travel from other universes is possible but our universe is the shittiest one around so no one wants to come here. Nah this theory doesn't work because you're basically saying we're the Iowa of universes and people actually go there all the time.
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DaveSplitter posted:Bet you that's the only slit those nerds are shooting things into. Nice
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DaveSplitter posted:Bet you that's the only slit those nerds are shooting things into.
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DaveSplitter posted:Bet you that's the only slit those nerds are shooting things into. what about the exit tray of the soda pop machine haha
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i like to think that time travel works but when you go back you stay in the same location so sure it's fifty years ago but fifty years ago the earth was somewhere else so now you're just floatin around in space and probably dead because you weren't prepared with a good space suit
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Kanthulhu posted:4) Travel from other universes is possible but our universe is the shittiest one around so no one wants to come here. Ours does have the lowest mortal level. Hopefully Goku and friends win the tournament so Zeno doesn't erase it.
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All I know about this stuff is that the guy from the band The Eels' dad came up with it
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i loving BLINKED and the 90s are over somehow, so time travel deffo exists
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I think the essential problem with the gold foil experiment is that scientists assumed the proton was very small in comparison to the atom based on probabilistic loss of the electron beam on a fluorescent screen. I think it has to do with the shape and orientation of the atom, rather than the size. I think what happens is that rather than missing the proton through empty space, the waveform ultimately finds occasional convergence at a uniform and observable rate because of the probabilistic alignment of the waveform of the proton with the particle beam. It's the angle of incidence, not random interactions with mass. The electrons simply find a bonded groundpath and seemingly disappear. If we ran the experiment today and measured the enthalpy of the system, we would see a slight temperature decrease in the gold foil, as some atoms bombarded by electrons reach absolute zero and quickly rebound from the heat of nearby touching atoms. 
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Hardawn posted:Shooting at a double slit is my type of repeatable quest Eh it's overrated
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Quantum entanglement with spooky action at a distance is where it's at. Like I hear that it's bullshit but simultaneously not bullshit by different very smart people. Huge if true though
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I read this in that michael chriton time travel book
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The thing that bugs me about quantum is that you can have this well of potential, right. Stick a particle at the bottom. Now this little poo poo has no way to climb this well, alright. It doesn't have it's climbing gear or ate it's Wheaties or gently caress whatever. Quantum theory states it can just pop outside this well. No explanation besides a half hearted shrug and a awkward laugh. loving bullshit.
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Gonna shoot my particles at OPs double slit and see what happen Brb
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nullEntityRNG posted:The thing that bugs me about quantum is that you can have this well of potential, right. Stick a particle at the bottom. Now this little poo poo has no way to climb this well, alright. It doesn't have it's climbing gear or ate it's Wheaties or gently caress whatever. Quantum theory states it can just pop outside this well. No explanation besides a half hearted shrug and a awkward laugh. loving bullshit. Sounds like what the world is like when you're driving drunk So basically god is real and hes drunk? Makes a lot of sense, if you think about it
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nullEntityRNG posted:The thing that bugs me about quantum is that you can have this well of potential, right. Stick a particle at the bottom. Now this little poo poo has no way to climb this well, alright. It doesn't have it's climbing gear or ate it's Wheaties or gently caress whatever. Quantum theory states it can just pop outside this well. No explanation besides a half hearted shrug and a awkward laugh. loving bullshit. There's no friction in the middle of the tube. No heat, no time. 
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Multiple universes is just an interpretation that attempts to explain away the weird issues at the core of quantum mechanics, and fails to do so. You can't actually travel to these so-call parallel universes.
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ClamdestineBoyster posted:I think the essential problem with the gold foil experiment is that scientists assumed the proton was very small in comparison to the atom based on probabilistic loss of the electron beam on a fluorescent screen. I think it has to do with the shape and orientation of the atom, rather than the size. I think what happens is that rather than missing the proton through empty space, the waveform ultimately finds occasional convergence at a uniform and observable rate because of the probabilistic alignment of the waveform of the proton with the particle beam. It's the angle of incidence, not random interactions with mass. The electrons simply find a bonded groundpath and seemingly disappear. If we ran the experiment today and measured the enthalpy of the system, we would see a slight temperature decrease in the gold foil, as some atoms bombarded by electrons reach absolute zero and quickly rebound from the heat of nearby touching atoms. Dude, what?
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Absurd Alhazred posted:Multiple universes is just an interpretation that attempts to explain away the weird issues at the core of quantum mechanics, and fails to do so. You can't actually travel to these so-call parallel universes. But what if I REALLY want to punch Hitler? 
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Mr.Pibbleton posted:But what if I REALLY want to punch Hitler? You can pay someone to dress up as Hitler and get punched. 
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frog have 2 vaginas but only half a dick
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Mr.Pibbleton posted:But what if I REALLY want to punch Hitler? It's illegal to interact with World War 2, you might change history so Goku doesn't exist.
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Nobody understands it OP thats why its notable also iy proves we are simply in a simulation. We are just breaking the physics engine when we gently caress around with this poo poo
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Godmode noclip allweapsunlocked~~``~
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Did they try iddqd asking for a friend
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probably every story or idea ever thought of exists as it's own universe probably every choice ever made like if some guy ordered the steak or the lobster on some random day, bam new universe
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Absurd Alhazred posted:Multiple universes is just an interpretation that attempts to explain away the weird issues at the core of quantum mechanics, and fails to do so. You can't actually travel to these so-call parallel universes. The phasing of the azimuth of the proton (electron) essentially creates units of time as the waveform oscillates, so by projecting 2D light into 3D space you have to potential for an infinite number of information states. The idea that all changes in information state are ultimately resolved to a binary series of choices is bullshit. The information has literally and infinite number of potentialities, not 2.
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The Dennis System posted:
There are 4 types of multiverse. Type 1: Space beyond our light horizon from which light will never be able to reach us due to the expansion of the universe. If space is infinite alternative yous would have to exist within some finite distance of yourself. Type 2: Space well beyond our own region that underwent inflation in a different/way at a different time in its own big bang event. Maybe these exist, who knows. Also called bubble universes. They would have their own laws of physics. Type 3: What you're talking about. A universe is created whenever a quantum even occurs. These probably don't exist, but who the gently caress knows and they make for cool 90s TV. Type 4: Any mathematically valid object 'exists' somewhere, therefore any universe we can think of must 'exist' as well. What exist means in the previous sentence is up for debate. These probably don't exist either. Oh, and for complicated reasons if any of these universes do exist the most statistically likely observer is observing the end civilization and possibly the universe. So you're probably living in the end of days.
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nullEntityRNG posted:The thing that bugs me about quantum is that you can have this well of potential, right. Stick a particle at the bottom. Now this little poo poo has no way to climb this well, alright. It doesn't have it's climbing gear or ate it's Wheaties or gently caress whatever. Quantum theory states it can just pop outside this well. No explanation besides a half hearted shrug and a awkward laugh. loving bullshit. one reason it seems problematic is because you're trying to think in terms of particles and walls, but an electron is really not a particle and a potential barrier is really not a wall. your (correct) intuition for how particles behave is getting in the way of understanding what is really going on. it would be better to think in terms of voltage (of the applied potential barrier) and current (from electrons tunneling through the barrier). ive spent a lot of time thinking about electrons in strongly quantum situations, and it's almost always more useful (and more correct) to think about them as being closer to a liquid than anything you'd call a 'particle',
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